Controversial Phinks vs Uvogin - Strongest Enhancer in the Phantom Troupe
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Potrayal when they were nenless and children ? By that logic Chrollo is the weakest in the troupe because he was bullied by all of them and was scared of Phinks as much as he was Uvo.
Phinks and Feitan are just far more inteligent when it comes to their nen abilities. Uvo's lack of restrictions and thought into his ability is why hes weaker.
Phinks and Feitan are just far more inteligent when it comes to their nen abilities. Uvo's lack of restrictions and thought into his ability is why hes weaker.
Spinning and punching is apparently "far more intelligent" than how Uvogin fights. This discussion is far beyond being reasonable, it's just wild Uvogin slander atp.
If Phinks fought Kurapika, winded his arm up 20 times....he would kill him. Sure its more risky but the reward is worth it. Look at Uvogin, all his punches were tanked and healed lmao.
Phink's ability is far more intelligent. Hes nerfed by starting at weaker punches and also sacrificing an arm to wind up. But his devestating AP makes up for it. Look at Gon vs Knuckle, and you can see how much potential a charge up Enhancer hatsu has.
Well I can easily say Phinks has 15 hatsus and is as talented as Ging...its meaningless if theirs no proof of it. Uvogin had a full on fight with Kurapika, used his strongest attack and showed no restrictions or vows or anything.
Not all Squadron Leaders are on the same physical stat lvl. They all have strong nen abilities, but their physical stats are all different. Its why Meloereon and the Penguin were able to become Squadron Leaders.
An average punch from Phinks is a mosquito bite to a fodder gorilla.
An average punch from Uvogin would turn a Squadron Leader ant like Cheetu into a painting.
Big Bang Impact is literally just a "right punch with little Nen added" as described by the PT.
An average punch from Uvogin would turn a Squadron Leader ant like Cheetu into a painting.
Big Bang Impact is literally just a "right punch with little Nen added" as described by the PT.
It's just a regular punch enhanced with Nen tbh.
I don't think there are any conditions involved. And tbh, having conditions to raise your ability is not necessarily better than having no conditions and still operating at a high level. It is just the way different fighters specialize.
I don't think there are any conditions involved. And tbh, having conditions to raise your ability is not necessarily better than having no conditions and still operating at a high level. It is just the way different fighters specialize.
The english version just didn't translate the "right straight punch" part for some reason, if the attack can only be done as a right handed straight punch then that would be a condition, but you're right, it doesn't really matter.
He could be. However, getting pissed by some taunting can't be compared to Kurapika's resolve. In terms of resolve AND nen restrictions, there's only 1 character who surpassed Kurapika: Gon. And we saw what nen can do when you disregard your own safety.
Not only he gets fired up to the bone when fighting the troupe, but he also made specific restrictions to his abilities to be able to compete against them, including putting his life and health at stake. Kurapika is like a kryptonite to the Genei Ryodan.
Why not take the emotions into consideration since it has been a device to increase power consistently used though the series, since the hunter exam?
Kurapika was enraged there. As he was with his lenses, we can't determine if he had Emperor Time activated, but it's very likely. Uvo was able to use nen, as he defended against Dalzollene's sword stab just a few pages before in the same chapter, so he was probably with his defenses activated (even if minimal)... there's no way Kurapika would hurt an enhancer like Uvo with just a base punch (even if both of them weren't using nen, Kurapika should've at least his scarlet eyes on).
Besides Chrollo (26*, probably 27 now), nobody else in the troupe has a confirmed age, if I remember right. Togashi doesn't seem to keep up with this that much, since we already saw some inconsistencies regarding Gon's and Killua's ages, but if we take their non-canon ages into consideration, Uvo is about 3~4 years older than Chrollo (btw, not all troupe members have Chrollo's age, he was certainly one of the youngest from the start; guys like Franklin, Phinks and Nobunaga might be as old as Uvo). Uvo seems to be in his late teens on the PT flashback.
* Chapter #95.
Not only he gets fired up to the bone when fighting the troupe, but he also made specific restrictions to his abilities to be able to compete against them, including putting his life and health at stake. Kurapika is like a kryptonite to the Genei Ryodan.
Why not take the emotions into consideration since it has been a device to increase power consistently used though the series, since the hunter exam?
He used KO as his initial punch and it was compared to a mosquito bite.
5-6 winds would kill the Gorrila Ant. And 15 winds incinerates the Gorrila Ant.
Uvo is very durable for a human. But even with nen protection he cant tank a kurapika punch.
I dont buy Kurapika even using KO in that punch but even if he did....I dont see his KO punch being stronger than Phinks. Its crazy but Phinks ability is crazy strong and has a very big multiplier. From a mosquito bite KO punch to a death blow with 5 winds, to disintegration with 15.
Uvo cant tank a KO punch from Phinks without blood. So technically he should also die to 5 winds from Ripper Cyclone ? Unless Uvo can make his durability stronger when he goes full throttle.
Either way Phinks is crqzy underrated and Uvo really doesnt look good even when it comes to physical scaling. He shouldve never taken damage to Kurapika's punch. Or got blitzed by him.
5-6 winds would kill the Gorrila Ant. And 15 winds incinerates the Gorrila Ant.
Uvo is very durable for a human. But even with nen protection he cant tank a kurapika punch.
I dont buy Kurapika even using KO in that punch but even if he did....I dont see his KO punch being stronger than Phinks. Its crazy but Phinks ability is crazy strong and has a very big multiplier. From a mosquito bite KO punch to a death blow with 5 winds, to disintegration with 15.
Uvo cant tank a KO punch from Phinks without blood. So technically he should also die to 5 winds from Ripper Cyclone ? Unless Uvo can make his durability stronger when he goes full throttle.
Either way Phinks is crqzy underrated and Uvo really doesnt look good even when it comes to physical scaling. He shouldve never taken damage to Kurapika's punch. Or got blitzed by him.
Besides Chrollo (26*, probably 27 now), nobody else in the troupe has a confirmed age, if I remember right. Togashi doesn't seem to keep up with this that much, since we already saw some inconsistencies regarding Gon's and Killua's ages, but if we take their non-canon ages into consideration, Uvo is about 3~4 years older than Chrollo (btw, not all troupe members have Chrollo's age, he was certainly one of the youngest from the start; guys like Franklin, Phinks and Nobunaga might be as old as Uvo). Uvo seems to be in his late teens on the PT flashback.
* Chapter #95.
He could be. However, getting pissed by some taunting can't be compared to Kurapika's resolve. In terms of resolve AND nen restrictions, there's only 1 character who surpassed Kurapika: Gon. And we saw what nen can do when you disregard your own safety.
Not only he gets fired up to the bone when fighting the troupe, but he also made specific restrictions to his abilities to be able to compete against them, including putting his life and health at stake. Kurapika is like a kryptonite to the Genei Ryodan.
Why not take the emotions into consideration since it has been a device to increase power consistently used though the series, since the hunter exam?
Kurapika was enraged there. As he was with his lenses, we can't determine if he had Emperor Time activated, but it's very likely. Uvo was able to use nen, as he defended against Dalzollene's sword stab just a few pages before in the same chapter, so he was probably with his defenses activated (even if minimal)... there's no way Kurapika would hurt an enhancer like Uvo with just a base punch (even if both of them weren't using nen, Kurapika should've at least his scarlet eyes on).
Besides Chrollo (26*, probably 27 now), nobody else in the troupe has a confirmed age, if I remember right. Togashi doesn't seem to keep up with this that much, since we already saw some inconsistencies regarding Gon's and Killua's ages, but if we take their non-canon ages into consideration, Uvo is about 3~4 years older than Chrollo (btw, not all troupe members have Chrollo's age, he was certainly one of the youngest from the start; guys like Franklin, Phinks and Nobunaga might be as old as Uvo). Uvo seems to be in his late teens on the PT flashback.
* Chapter #95.
Not only he gets fired up to the bone when fighting the troupe, but he also made specific restrictions to his abilities to be able to compete against them, including putting his life and health at stake. Kurapika is like a kryptonite to the Genei Ryodan.
Why not take the emotions into consideration since it has been a device to increase power consistently used though the series, since the hunter exam?
Kurapika was enraged there. As he was with his lenses, we can't determine if he had Emperor Time activated, but it's very likely. Uvo was able to use nen, as he defended against Dalzollene's sword stab just a few pages before in the same chapter, so he was probably with his defenses activated (even if minimal)... there's no way Kurapika would hurt an enhancer like Uvo with just a base punch (even if both of them weren't using nen, Kurapika should've at least his scarlet eyes on).
Besides Chrollo (26*, probably 27 now), nobody else in the troupe has a confirmed age, if I remember right. Togashi doesn't seem to keep up with this that much, since we already saw some inconsistencies regarding Gon's and Killua's ages, but if we take their non-canon ages into consideration, Uvo is about 3~4 years older than Chrollo (btw, not all troupe members have Chrollo's age, he was certainly one of the youngest from the start; guys like Franklin, Phinks and Nobunaga might be as old as Uvo). Uvo seems to be in his late teens on the PT flashback.
* Chapter #95.
