Questions & Mysteries R.I.P King got bleeding by Marco

#68
Yeah Marco was off paneled by fighting two dudes over 1.3b. + healing the live floor
But Oda, nice of him, showed us on panel that when Marco was fresh he could always take the better on the two of them.
It weird that each time on panel Marco made a number on King or Queen :kayneshrug:
--Marco never healed the live floor ; the only thing he did is to use his flame's heat to suppress the virus

--Marco fought king and zoan queen who can only shoot single laser attacks for 5 chapters and who was not always focused on marco and then later fought chopper/sanji
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#69
Still didn't do any meaningful damage at all breh. Didn't even force King to use his regeneration hax.

As this thread and this chapter showed, ACoC is the answer to hurt King significantly.
So on panel = Marco dominating every time but yeah yeah he is weaker.
As if Oda would have reveal King hybrid or skills against Marco and not against a SH….

It works like that Oda only show us during SH fights doesn’t mean the previous portrayal doesn’t work.

Marco was seen in the lead till he was too much exhausted
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#71
So on panel = Marco dominating every time but yeah yeah he is weaker.
As if Oda would have reveal King hybrid or skills against Marco and not against a SH….

It works like that Oda only show us during SH fights doesn’t mean the previous portrayal doesn’t work.

Marco was seen in the lead till he was too much exhausted
Exactly. Only he can do that in the entire verse.

Why do I say so? That's the nature of his fruit. Only Marco's fruit allows someone to take mortally wounding damages, then regenerate instantly and then attack the other person off guard when they're of the impression that they've severely injured Marco - case in point Chapter 1006 - the Blue Bird + Knee Dive combo.

Shiryu/Beckman/King/Katakuri won't be able to do what Marco did. But that doesn't mean they cannot beat him in a 1v1 if that makes sense.

In a 1v1 setting, Marco should figure out the workings of King's hax and then work around it, if possible. As I said, if ACoC or hax like Law's is the only way to do meaningful damage to King, might as well close every other "vs King" thread in the battledome since it's simply not possible to work around it.
 
#73
--Marco never healed the live floor ; the only thing he did is to use his flame's heat to suppress the virus

--Marco fought king and zoan queen who can only shoot single laser attacks for 5 chapters and who was not always focused on marco and then later fought chopper/sanji
Marco is fighting them since chapter 1000, all of these chapters until 1022 just reflect small portions of a much bigger amount of time going on really fast, so lots of things got offscreened.

Queen wasn't even paying attention to Sanji, King and Queen were all in the same place this whole time, alongside with Marco, mummy Zoro, Sanji and Chopper, exactly as we see during 1022, thats when Marco says "it is time for the stars to take the stage"

Then the real 1vs1s start on 1023. Thats why the time is passing so slow now, "15 minutes until Onigashima drops", we still here for several chapters
 
#73
Marco is fighting them since chapter 1000, these chapters until 1022 just reflect a small portions of a much bigger amount of time passing really fast, so lots of things get offscreened.

Queen wasn't even paying attention to Sanji, King and Queen were all in the same place this whole time, alongside with Marco, mummy Zoro, Sanji and Chopper, exactly as we see during 1022, thats when Marco says "it is time for the stars to take the stage"

Then the real 1vs1s start on 1023
--It is very clear that queen for most part fought chopper and sanji than marco as well as it was king who brought marco down
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#74
Exactly. Only he can do that in the entire verse.

Why do I say so? That's the nature of his fruit. Only Marco's fruit allows someone to take mortally wounding damages, then regenerate instantly and then attack the other person off guard when they're of the impression that they've severely injured Marco - case in point Chapter 1006 - the Blue Bird + Knee Dive combo.

Shiryu/Beckman/King/Katakuri won't be able to do what Marco did. But that doesn't mean they cannot beat him in a 1v1 if that makes sense.

In a 1v1 setting, Marco should figure out the workings of King's hax and then work around it, if possible. As I said, if ACoC or hax like Law's is the only way to do meaningful damage to King, might as well close every other "vs King" thread in the battledome since it's simply not possible to work around it.
Yes Marco is ideally suited to be a staller

But what is shown is not only that : Marco on panel hurt them, send them left and right, managed to hold them both to propel Zoro, managed to block Queen neck easy with him being helpless and not taking Chopper attack without being able to do anything etc.

That is not only a staller. And the portrayal is every time on Marco favor.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#75
Queen wasn't even paying attention to Sanji, King and Queen were all in the same place this whole time, alongside with Marco, mummy Zoro, Sanji and Chopper, exactly as we see during 1022, thats when Marco says "it is time for the stars to take the stage"
Yeah Queen, the guy who desperately wants Sanji's raidsuit would avoid fighting with Sanji to deal with Marco when he didn't even avoid playing with Chopper.

Makes total sense.
 

Echizen_Jo_Ndule

One Piece sucks
#77
The only version of Katakuri that measures up to Kingu is the light speed, Boundman strong version that lives in Ndules head

Especially compared to Marco being able to make Queen cough up large amounts of blood in 1 hit, better than anything Sanji's done so far.

Kingu really tanking two hits with a nose bleed
:milaugh:imagine thinking King >boundman in attack speed and AP
While he can barely tag freaking zoro

:josad:Mr. 15 min
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And Marco can stay for a pounding


Yeah after King and Queen beat him
Lol

Impressive feat
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#78
Yes Marco is ideally suited to be a staller

But what is shown is not only that : Marco on panel hurt them, send them left and right, managed to hold them both to propel Zoro, managed to block Queen neck easy with him being helpless and not taking Chopper attack without being able to do anything etc.

That is not only a staller. And the portrayal is on Marco favor,
That's the thing.

Basing this off of that 1v2 without considering the matchup, the abilities and how they interact is like calling Apoo stronger than Drake and Zoro because he stalled them for a good amount of time. Because the portrayal that you are talking about for Marco, is the same for Apoo as well.

We both know that isn't the actual case.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#79
the abilities and how they interact is like calling Apoo stronger than Drake and Zoro because he stalled them for a good amount of time. Because the portrayal that you are talking about for Marco, is the same for Apoo as well.
Do you really want to make that argument ?

where on panel Apoo had the upper hand against Zoro and Drake ?
Apoo was on the backfoot without being able to land any counter attack and Zoro slashed him.

and all the clash lasted what 10 second a minute at best ?

So Apoo : full on defense mode and slashed after some seconds at best a couple of minutes.
Marco : can go offense and fight back, pushed them both, and didn’t go down on panel. And push them back for a long ass time.

same portrayal ? Really ?
 
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