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#24
Luffy>Kidd>Law>=Zoro>Killer

Luffy, Kidd, and Law are relative (in some aspects)based on portrayal and expectations. Law's hax is disgusting and Kidd is likely physically stronger than Luffy, but Luffy has everything in spades, so he's the best all-around fighter. But depending on Kidd's performance against BM, he could be just as good as Luffy

Law has shown that he's several times stronger than he was in Dressrosa

I have Killer and Zoro in the same tier with Zoro having the advantage. Zoro's endurance, potential, and damage output is just as good if not better than the SN trio, but besides that he's got more in common with Killer stats-wise imo
 
#25
Luffy>Kidd>Law>=Zoro>Killer

Luffy, Kidd, and Law are relative (in some aspects)based on portrayal and expectations. Law's hax is disgusting and Kidd is likely physically stronger than Luffy, but Luffy has everything in spades, so he's the best all-around fighter. But depending on Kidd's performance against BM, he could be just as good as Luffy

Law has shown that he's several times stronger than he was in Dressrosa

I have Killer and Zoro in the same tier with Zoro having the advantage. Zoro's endurance, potential, and damage output is just as good if not better than the SN trio, but besides that he's got more in common with Killer stats-wise imo
Excuse me, but that does not make any sense.

Luffy and Zoro were clearly portrayed in a far greater light than the other three Supernovas.
These two were the only ones that had their attacks enlightened because of their destructive power and the reactions from the Yonko. Only Zoro's Hiryu Kaen and Tatsumaki and Luffy's Kong Gatling had Oda enlighten them with a panel of Onigashima having his horn cut/being destroyed, and with Big Mom screaming in fear fo Kaido to absolutely dodge Zoro's slash/appearing worried for Kaido pummeled by Luffy/noticing that it was impressive that Zoro cut Kaido's tough scales.

Only Luffy and Zoro had moments where they fought Kaido 1 vs 1 without anyone else being involved.

And... this is Kidd saving Zoro for doing what he could not do and saving his life:



This is Killer stating that it is impossible to do anything... while Zoro, instead, did:



This is Killer being in awe for Zoro cutting the scales that he could not cut (and Zoro used a weak move from his arsenal: as Daisensekai and Ashura are much stronger than Tatsumaki):



This is Law watching Zoro using Ashura and attacking Kaido:



Come on.
It does not take a genius to see that the author is clearly portraying Luffy > Zoro > Kidd ~ Law > Killer.
 
#26
Excuse me, but that does not make any sense.

Luffy and Zoro were clearly portrayed in a far greater light than the other three Supernovas.
These two were the only ones that had their attacks enlightened because of their destructive power and the reactions from the Yonko. Only Zoro's Hiryu Kaen and Tatsumaki and Luffy's Kong Gatling had Oda enlighten them with a panel of Onigashima having his horn cut/being destroyed, and with Big Mom screaming in fear fo Kaido to absolutely dodge Zoro's slash/appearing worried for Kaido pummeled by Luffy/noticing that it was impressive that Zoro cut Kaido's tough scales.

Only Luffy and Zoro had moments where they fought Kaido 1 vs 1 without anyone else being involved.

And... this is Kidd saving Zoro for doing what he could not do and saving his life:



This is Killer stating that it is impossible to do anything... while Zoro, instead, did:



This is Killer being in awe for Zoro cutting the scales that he could not cut (and Zoro used a weak move from his arsenal: as Daisensekai and Ashura are much stronger than Tatsumaki):



This is Law watching Zoro using Ashura and attacking Kaido:



Come on.
It does not take a genius to see that the author is clearly portraying Luffy > Zoro > Kidd ~ Law > Killer.

it’s luffy>Kidd>law>=zoro=killer

The fact Zoros already out while law kidd killer and luffy are still in should obviously tell you that Oda gave zoro shine because he knew he was gonna take him out first.

It’s gonna be the 3 captains vs the yonko.

They are above killer and zoro which is common sense since Zoros portrayal also lies with killer everytime they attack together which is clear.

Doesn’t take a genius to know what Oda is setting up.

Luffy Kidd and law vs kaido and big mom


pretty clear
 
#27
it’s luffy>Kidd>law>=zoro=killer

The fact Zoros already out while law kidd killer and luffy are still in should obviously tell you that Oda gave zoro shine because he knew he was gonna take him out first.

It’s gonna be the 3 captains vs the yonko.

They are above killer and zoro which is common sense since Zoros portrayal also lies with killer everytime they attack together which is clear.

Doesn’t take a genius to know what Oda is setting up.

Luffy Kidd and law vs kaido and big mom


pretty clear
Ah... ok.

So Oda had a nerfed Zoro using a low tier attack and oneshotting a nerfed Killer, who couldn't even touch him without taking advantage from an external involvement...
To then have them as equals.

:okay:

So Oda had Kidd (who has always has a cocky behaviour) do nothing and sincerely praise what Zoro did, and thank Zoro for saving him and the others...
Even if Kidd was strong enough to do the same, but for some reason he chose to not to.

:okay:

So Oda had Killer in awe for Zoro's feat of cutting Kaido's tough scales, and had him screaming that nothing can be done and then had Zoro save the situation...
To have them as equals.

:okay:

So Oda had Law in awe when he was Zoro attacking and wounding Hybrid Kaido in a fair and square 1 vs 1...
Because he could the same if not better.

:okay:

So Oda enlightened Zoro's performance far more than anyone else not named Luffy...
Just to get rid of him quicker.

:okay:

The headcanon is strong here.
The denying of blatant evidence is strong here.
 
#28
So Oda had a nerfed Zoro using a low tier attack and oneshotting a nerfed Killer, who couldn't even touch him without taking advantage from an external involvement...
To then have them as equals.
Both of them were nerf to an extent and pretty much even. Zoro got the better of killer by taking one of his weapons taking him out but ultimately pass out afterwards due to blood loss.

So Oda had Kidd (who has always has a cocky behaviour) do nothing and sincerely praise what Zoro did, and thank Zoro for saving him and the others...
Even if Kidd was strong enough to do the same, but for some reason he chose to not to.
It's not kid's job to protect everyone and he didn't trust anyone beforehand due to apoo and Hawkins betrayal.
So Oda had Killer in awe for Zoro's feat of cutting Kaido's tough scales, and had him screaming that nothing can be done and then had Zoro save the situation...
To have them as equals.
Killer would've had the same reaction if he saw scabbards cutting kaido(dragon form) but because he wasn't there for that fight to killer it was a surprise since it's his first time seeing it at firsthand.
So Oda had Law in awe when he was Zoro attacking and wounding Hybrid Kaido in a fair and square 1 vs 1...
See that's your problem right there it was never a 1vs1 with zoro it was always a 2 on 5 battle.
So Oda enlightened Zoro's performance far more than anyone else not named Luffy...
Just to get rid of him quicker.
Yeah he did so to not only show zoro what he was capable of since the timeskip he also wanted to display the true potential of enma. Every time zoro attacks enma is always being highlight as the key weapon to damage and even with that final attack the panel always show you a close focus to the blade itself.
 
#29
Ah... ok.

So Oda had a nerfed Zoro using a low tier attack and oneshotting a nerfed Killer, who couldn't even touch him without taking advantage from an external involvement...
To then have them as equals.

:okay:

So Oda had Kidd (who has always has a cocky behaviour) do nothing and sincerely praise what Zoro did, and thank Zoro for saving him and the others...
Even if Kidd was strong enough to do the same, but for some reason he chose to not to.

:okay:

So Oda had Killer in awe for Zoro's feat of cutting Kaido's tough scales, and had him screaming that nothing can be done and then had Zoro save the situation...
To have them as equals.

:okay:

So Oda had Law in awe when he was Zoro attacking and wounding Hybrid Kaido in a fair and square 1 vs 1...
Because he could the same if not better.

:okay:

So Oda enlightened Zoro's performance far more than anyone else not named Luffy...
Just to get rid of him quicker.

:okay:

The headcanon is strong here.
The denying of blatant evidence is strong here.
Zoro isn’t portrayed over Kidd. Cut it out. Just because Zoro is having his shining moments right now doesn’t mean he’s automatically stronger than someone Oda is clearly holding back. It’s simple, Oda gave Zoro the most hype moments because he knew that Zoro would be taken out of the fight first. Give Zoro his best moments now because he won’t have a chance later unlike Kidd. Kidd on the other hand hasn’t done much yet because as you can see from the latest chapter, his real battle is just beginning, the author is obviously holding him back. Oda isn’t going to have Kidd outshining Zoro during Zoro’s main chance to shine before he is taken out of the battle. Come back and talk to me about portrayal when in few chapters Luffy and Kidd are fighting the two strongest pirates on Onigashima lol
 
#30
Zoro isn’t portrayed over Kidd. Cut it out. Just because Zoro is having his shining moments right now doesn’t mean he’s automatically stronger than someone Oda is clearly holding back. It’s simple, Oda gave Zoro the most hype moments because he knew that Zoro would be taken out of the fight first. Give Zoro his best moments now because he won’t have a chance later unlike Kidd. Kidd on the other hand hasn’t done much yet because as you can see from the latest chapter, his real battle is just beginning, the author is obviously holding him back. Oda isn’t going to have Kidd outshining Zoro during Zoro’s main chance to shine before he is taken out of the battle. Come back and talk to me about portrayal when in few chapters Luffy and Kidd are fighting the two strongest pirates on Onigashima lol
"Oda is holding back Kidd" so much that he lost an arm and his entire crew. 😂😂😂
I hope he doesn't hold him back more otherwise that dude gonna lose 1 more arm and 1 more leg and become a metallic nugget. 🤦🏻‍♂️
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it’s luffy>Kidd>law>=zoro=killer

The fact Zoros already out while law kidd killer and luffy are still in should obviously tell you that Oda gave zoro shine because he knew he was gonna take him out first.

It’s gonna be the 3 captains vs the yonko.

They are above killer and zoro which is common sense since Zoros portrayal also lies with killer everytime they attack together which is clear.

Doesn’t take a genius to know what Oda is setting up.

Luffy Kidd and law vs kaido and big mom


pretty clear
Boy you really gonna have to wait till Kidd loses 2 arms and 2 legs and become a metallic nugget to believe that Oda's plan for aint what you think of.
Your boy has been pathetic af as a yonko rape victim survivor since post timeskip. 😂
 
#38
Luffy>Kidd>Law>=Zoro>Killer

Luffy, Kidd, and Law are relative (in some aspects)based on portrayal and expectations. Law's hax is disgusting and Kidd is likely physically stronger than Luffy, but Luffy has everything in spades, so he's the best all-around fighter. But depending on Kidd's performance against BM, he could be just as good as Luffy

Law has shown that he's several times stronger than he was in Dressrosa

I have Killer and Zoro in the same tier with Zoro having the advantage. Zoro's endurance, potential, and damage output is just as good if not better than the SN trio, but besides that he's got more in common with Killer stats-wise imo
This is a post that contains spoilers from chapter 1000 till 1010. You shouldn't be posting here bro until you read the ten chapters.
I won't spoil anything for you, but you will put Zoro above Kid and Law after you read the ten chapters.
Enjoy reading.
 
#39
Hey! Kid showed up in a lotta panel. Count 1 feat for each panel he is in.
I presume and I can't prove this of course that Oda wished him to stay more quiet in order not to make him waste stamina since this is the moment where he is supposed to do that against Big Mom, allegedly. This notwithstanding, I'm afraid she will most probably still not allow the two to overcome her and that's mostly in that she already fell for their tricks enough.
 
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