Hello everyone,
Today I want to talk about a commander who we don’t talk about often in the Kingdom Battledome, Shunsuiju:
Strength: 83
Leadership: 90
Intelligence: 93
From the moment we got this panel here:
It was clear that Hara was planning big things for both Bananji and Shunsuiju, and sure enough, both characters have proven themselves to be some of the best Generals in Zhao. Shunsuiju in particular is one of the more brutal tacticians we’ve seen, and he has been responsible for some of the most dangerous strategies we’ve seen in the 3 year Qin War:
1. 3 years ago, Shunsuiju was the first Zhao general to realize that Qin was planning to attack Zhao from the South and not the North
2. When Ousen, Yotanwa, and Kanki were all invading Zhao, Riboku tasked Shunsuiju with defeating Yotanwa, and long story short his Quanrong strategy and various tactics nearly succeeded. This feat by itself is arguably a Heavenly King level feat, as Shunsuiju’s strategy resulted in a Qin 6GG level commander having her forces devastated and Zhao came very close to winning that battle
3. Shunsuiju’s Atsuyo defense (Riboku helped) resulted in Ousen’s army suffering huge casualties and ultimately resulted in Ousen being stalled out at Atsuyo. This is an especially big deal as Ousen is known as a strong siege commander. Shunsuiju lead this defense from inside the city and escaped back into Zhao even as Ousen captured the city
4. And just recently at Sekirei, Shunsuiju’s poison strategy resulted in Heki’s survivor army being annihilated before they could even muster up a defense.
So why do I say that Shunsuiju is Heavenly King level? Well simply put, when we compare him to the Heavenly Kings and other known Heavenly King level commanders, his feats hold up extremely well.
When Kyou En squared up against Ousen for example, Ousen was ultimately able to defeat Kyou En without suffering too many setbacks/casualties. But when Riboku unleashed Shunsuiju against Yotanwa, Yotanwa’s forces were devastated and very nearly destroyed entirely, Yotanwa’s win vs Shunsuiju and the Quanrong was very much a close win that she nearly lost. You might say “well Shunsuiju had the Quanrong to help,” but that’s what warfare is: you take advantage of your surroundings/environment to achieve victory. Let’s not forget that the Quanrong were hostile towards Zhao but Shunsuiju was still able to solicit their help against Yotanwa.
Even disregarding the Quanrong, Shunsuiju faced Ousen at Atsuyo and gave him more trouble than Kyou En gave him. Hell Shunsuiju arguably gave Ousen more trouble than Ordo did at the Coalition War. Sure this was siege warfare but Ousen is supposed to be strong at siege offense.
Looking at what Shunsuiju did to Heki was really the moment for me that made me respect him more. Heki is a competent General at this point, he is strong at the fundamentals of warfare and even Mouten refused to say that his army was stronger than Heki’s. That said, Shunsuiju’s poison strategy essentially resulted in Heki’s troops being completely negged without putting up any fight whatsoever. Heki is a competent general like I said but Shunsuiju essentially defeated him before he ever even had a chance to fight.
Shunsuiju is miles above your average general (Heki), has seriously impressive feats against Qin 6GG level opponents (Yotanwa, Ousen), arguably even better feats that what we already saw from the Heavenly Kings themselves. I don’t think one Heavenly King level commander has feats as impressive as what Shunsuiju pulled against 6GG level commanders, aside from maybe Rinko breaking through Ouki’s lines and taking a shot at him.
I say Shunsuiju is Heavenly King level as the Heavenly Kings have serious hype, and feats are somewhat situational, but I think Shunsuiju (and Bananji) are Riboku’s own “Heavenly Kings”.
What do you guys think?
@God Buggy @Blackbeard @TheKnightOfTheSea @SakazOuki @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Jailer @Patryipe @Dark Admiral @Shanks @MarineHQ @etcetcetc
Today I want to talk about a commander who we don’t talk about often in the Kingdom Battledome, Shunsuiju:
Strength: 83
Leadership: 90
Intelligence: 93
From the moment we got this panel here:
It was clear that Hara was planning big things for both Bananji and Shunsuiju, and sure enough, both characters have proven themselves to be some of the best Generals in Zhao. Shunsuiju in particular is one of the more brutal tacticians we’ve seen, and he has been responsible for some of the most dangerous strategies we’ve seen in the 3 year Qin War:
1. 3 years ago, Shunsuiju was the first Zhao general to realize that Qin was planning to attack Zhao from the South and not the North
2. When Ousen, Yotanwa, and Kanki were all invading Zhao, Riboku tasked Shunsuiju with defeating Yotanwa, and long story short his Quanrong strategy and various tactics nearly succeeded. This feat by itself is arguably a Heavenly King level feat, as Shunsuiju’s strategy resulted in a Qin 6GG level commander having her forces devastated and Zhao came very close to winning that battle
3. Shunsuiju’s Atsuyo defense (Riboku helped) resulted in Ousen’s army suffering huge casualties and ultimately resulted in Ousen being stalled out at Atsuyo. This is an especially big deal as Ousen is known as a strong siege commander. Shunsuiju lead this defense from inside the city and escaped back into Zhao even as Ousen captured the city
4. And just recently at Sekirei, Shunsuiju’s poison strategy resulted in Heki’s survivor army being annihilated before they could even muster up a defense.
So why do I say that Shunsuiju is Heavenly King level? Well simply put, when we compare him to the Heavenly Kings and other known Heavenly King level commanders, his feats hold up extremely well.
When Kyou En squared up against Ousen for example, Ousen was ultimately able to defeat Kyou En without suffering too many setbacks/casualties. But when Riboku unleashed Shunsuiju against Yotanwa, Yotanwa’s forces were devastated and very nearly destroyed entirely, Yotanwa’s win vs Shunsuiju and the Quanrong was very much a close win that she nearly lost. You might say “well Shunsuiju had the Quanrong to help,” but that’s what warfare is: you take advantage of your surroundings/environment to achieve victory. Let’s not forget that the Quanrong were hostile towards Zhao but Shunsuiju was still able to solicit their help against Yotanwa.
Even disregarding the Quanrong, Shunsuiju faced Ousen at Atsuyo and gave him more trouble than Kyou En gave him. Hell Shunsuiju arguably gave Ousen more trouble than Ordo did at the Coalition War. Sure this was siege warfare but Ousen is supposed to be strong at siege offense.
Looking at what Shunsuiju did to Heki was really the moment for me that made me respect him more. Heki is a competent General at this point, he is strong at the fundamentals of warfare and even Mouten refused to say that his army was stronger than Heki’s. That said, Shunsuiju’s poison strategy essentially resulted in Heki’s troops being completely negged without putting up any fight whatsoever. Heki is a competent general like I said but Shunsuiju essentially defeated him before he ever even had a chance to fight.
Shunsuiju is miles above your average general (Heki), has seriously impressive feats against Qin 6GG level opponents (Yotanwa, Ousen), arguably even better feats that what we already saw from the Heavenly Kings themselves. I don’t think one Heavenly King level commander has feats as impressive as what Shunsuiju pulled against 6GG level commanders, aside from maybe Rinko breaking through Ouki’s lines and taking a shot at him.
I say Shunsuiju is Heavenly King level as the Heavenly Kings have serious hype, and feats are somewhat situational, but I think Shunsuiju (and Bananji) are Riboku’s own “Heavenly Kings”.
What do you guys think?
@God Buggy @Blackbeard @TheKnightOfTheSea @SakazOuki @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Jailer @Patryipe @Dark Admiral @Shanks @MarineHQ @etcetcetc
