Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[ConquistadoR]

Y’all don’t understand - just like Yamato decided to drop a yearslong dream in the span of seven days, it’s gonna turn out that every single plot line that Oda set up and left unresolved on panel happened during that weeklong skip, take that to the fucking BANK

Whenever Yamato said "I want live as free as Oden did", I never imagined that she would literally be living EXACTLY like how Oden did.

 

[115673]

Like I said, the borders aren't open. It takes time. Things can't be fixed in just a month. Momo will learn how to rule once he matures more.

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Actually no. Wano fell to ruin because of Wano's policies.

And what happens to the children who take this into heart? Suddenly they realize they were taught wrong? Everything they know is a lie - again? If it was real life, those children would never trust any teacher ever again.

If Oda wanted this plot thread open, this was not the way to do it.

 

[Tensub]

the audience knows why orochi became orochi
the people of wano will never know nor care ,little reason to not feel justified. perhaps if there are more kurozumi's around , they would continue to act the same way they had done in the past.


this topic is clearly too complicated for op
if you want to read on how the cycle of hatred is tackled
naruto handles this a lot better.

I don't know about handling "better" but Naruto definitely has an interesting take on it. Fishman Island still beats Naruto in that regard. I am a Big 3 fan btw so don't use "Naruto hater" as a boogeyman.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Whenever Yamato said "I want live as free as Oden did", I never imagined that she would literally be living EXACTLY like how Oden did.

Oda is in love with Oden so much he created a character to mimic Oden and at the same time jerk him off. It's actually pretty efficient on his part.

 

[Indigo]

the audience knows why orochi became orochi
the people of wano will never know nor care ,little reason to not feel justified. perhaps if there are more kurozumi's around , they would continue to act the same way they had done in the past.


this topic is clearly too complicated for op
if you want to read on how the cycle of hatred is tackled
naruto handles this a lot better.

Once again

Naruto > OP

 

[Deleted member 33823]

the audience knows why orochi became orochi
the people of wano will never know nor care ,little reason to not feel justified. perhaps if there are more kurozumi's around , they would continue to act the same way they had done in the past.


this topic is clearly too complicated for op
if you want to read on how the cycle of hatred is tackled
naruto handles this a lot better.

To an extent yes, but let's not forget that the leaf village never apologized to Naruto or Sasuke for the shit they lived through

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

Whenever Yamato said "I want live as free as Oden did", I never imagined that she would literally be living EXACTLY like how Oden did.

I’m so fucking disappointed in Yamato. Can’t think for her own damn self for once.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Kinda few for the man who's responsible for helping Luffy to be able to compete with Kaido tho

This arc just is a byproduct of doing to much at once. Clearly a lot of things were rushed or just straight up cut:

- Skipped farewells (Hyo, Scabbards, etc)
- Izo and Asura's deaths (and Kiku's indifference...)
- Zoro/Ryuma/Shimotsuki connections (I guess will be addressed somehow during the void century flashback or something idk). Onimaru serving no function but to amass weapons for the alliance, no further plot there on Ushimaru.
- Marco missing (but imo may show up on the crews ship in a few chapters when they are sailing)
- Fates of the Yonko, Jack, BMP, F6, etc. Oda has never left stuff like this unknown in the past.
- Drake? Hawkins? Apoo? Caribou?


Sure, a lot of this can and will be addressed potentially later, since Wano still has a role to play. It's still makes does not help its climax. Ideally the arc needed 2-3 more chapters...but whatever I'd rather move on already

 

[Tensub]

And what happens to the children who take this into heart? Suddenly they realize they were taught wrong? Everything they know is a lie - again? If it was real life, those children would never trust any teacher ever again.

If Oda wanted this plot thread open, this was not the way to do it.

This was absolutely the way to do it because it leaves Oda room to still focus on the cycle of hatred. It is a real thing that happens in real life.

 

[Levi]

Luffy does not mid diffs kid and law. He loses to them

Luffy beats midd zero haki and law gear 5th one shots
Yamato could take them both 1v1 to extreme diff and possibly win
Current zoro with no control on coqs takes both to high or extreme and lose point is
Luffy yonko>admirals >kid>=law>=yamoto>zoro

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

This recycle of violence will never end... Not so long as my brothers in the Kurozumi Clan are persecuted.

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

I don't wanna see this propaganda anymore

Careful, you don’t wanna see your social credit score collapse do you?

 

[zzShinichi]

the audience knows why orochi became orochi
the people of wano will never know nor care ,little reason to not feel justified. perhaps if there are more kurozumi's around , they would continue to act the same way they had done in the past.


this topic is clearly too complicated for op
if you want to read on how the cycle of hatred is tackled
naruto handles this a lot better.

Tokyo Ghoul is already great for this

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Whenever Yamato said "I want live as free as Oden did", I never imagined that she would literally be living EXACTLY like how Oden did.

You know, I don’t recall Oden ever saying “I’m going out to sea with Luffy” or otherwise discussing the Straw Hats, so if Yamato is adhering that closely to how he lived, she should have talked about exploring Wano first instead and not wasted our time

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Because Wano country hunted down and killed Orochi's and Kanjurou's families in front of them when they were kids

Wano created Orochi and Kanjurou

it's their fucking fault

Ah, nvm. Wano is full of assholes then. Honestly glad that Momo and Kinemon probably won't join. At least Yamato hasn't been shown to be racist like the others, so her joining the crew is fine ( if she drops that Oden shit ) IMO.

 

[Jinjoo]

I don't wanna see this propaganda anymore

What a punchable face Oda drew. If that wasn't enough fucker gleefully took on the job of a propagandist.

 

[115673]

This was absolutely the way to do it because it leaves Oda room to still focus on the cycle of hatred. It is a real thing that happens in real life.

So, they were lied to by Orochi's people. Now, they are being lied to by Momo's people. Suddenly border opens, and everyone lives happily ever after?

 

[JoNdule]

Forever an Underrated Ending

The best ending since FI and post ts arcs

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

You know, I don’t recall Oden ever saying “I’m going out to sea with Luffy” or otherwise discussing the Straw Hats, so if Yamato is adhering that closely to how he lived, she should have talked about exploring Wano first instead and not wasted our time

 

[Indigo]

in Bleach we also had the Quincy genocide

so all the big 3 have them lol

and you can add AoT in there too

what is going on in japan bro?