Spoiler Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1057 Spoilers Discussion

[Therefir]

WTF, Stop the agenda, Luffy is not on the level of Kaido or any Admiral

How can someone be this stupid and dense is beyond all human understanding.

 

[Seven7]

You can ignore Ashura if you want, I didn't mention it to give him credit.
Kaido's stats drop after that or Luffy miraculously improves all of his.

I'm a zoro fan
Just accept that luffy is yonko tier its not that hard.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You can ignore Ashura if you want, I didn't mention it to give him credit.
Kaido's stats drop after that or Luffy miraculously improves all of his.

Neither happens…

 

[MarineHQ]

Strength, durability, endurance

Endurance is a hard no. Strength not sure as well since Luffy has G3. Luffy is a far more complete and competent fighter.

 

[Herrera95]

You can ignore Ashura if you want, I didn't mention it to give him credit.
Kaido's stats drop after that or Luffy miraculously improves all of his.

Remember that Onigashima was shaking after Kaido fought Yamato and never shaked again when fighting Luffy until the last clash?

Luffy's attacks were actually healing Kaido.

 

[Seth]

This might be the last time I discuss One Piece on regular basis

 

[Mlzz]

WTF, Stop the agenda, Luffy is not on the level of Kaido or any Admiral

Lol Luffy is the MC you can already put him top 1 all times

 

[Cream filled donut7]

This might be the last time I discuss One Piece on regular basis

why

 

[Taixu]

How can someone be this stupid and dense is beyond all human understanding.

The key word here is "clash", Ace=Aokiji according to your pathetic logic.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

G5+ Bajrang gun even defeat Shanks

 

[Halyup]

Yeah that’s the only thing that makes him a tier above Cracker imo.

Katakuri is glass cannon
And FS is most overrated ability

 

[rerere]

Doflamingo is much better as an antagonist. Best Villain of the Post TS.

Tbf, nobody will ever surpass Doflamingo.

 

[Herrera95]

Endurance is a hard no. Strength not sure as well since Luffy has G3. Luffy is a far more complete and competent fighter.

BM fought 3 days with Kaido. Luffy never fought for 3 days.

Amnesia BM overpowered Udon Luffy, he was using haki and she didn't.

BM only issue is plot and Luffy only power is plot too.

 

[Taixu]

H

I'm a zoro fan
Just accept that luffy is yonko tier its not that hard.

Yonko tier haki

 

[115673]

Luffy beat Kaido, so he is stronger than Kaido. Oda has always been straightforward with Luffy's powerlevels, no point in analyzing stats.

But its gonna be fucking hilarious when Luffy gets his ass beaten by somebody (Admirals/Giants/Weevil who knows) and then people have to come to term with the fact that Kaido isn't all that he is cracked up to be.

 

[Seven7]

The key word here is "clash", Ace=Aokiji according to your pathetic logic.

Ace and aokiji didn't split the sky.
Only yonko can do it, which luffy clearly did

 

[Halyup]

G5+ Bajrang gun even defeat Shanks

Shanks will block it better than Kaido
His AdvCOC is tier above luffy
As Kaido said its Haki surpasses all

 

[Taixu]

Neither happens…

In Sanji Piece no

 

[Midnight Delight]

All the billion berry commanders are gimmick fighters:
Katakuri - Future Sight to avoid damage
King - Lunarian durability to block damage
Queen - Invisibility to avoid damage
Marco - Phoenix flame to heal damage

Likely Jozu too - Diamond durability to block damage

That's why they are commanders and not top tiers

 

[Herrera95]

Yeah that’s the only thing that makes him a tier above Cracker imo.

Cracker way better than Katakuri. Katakuri has no chance against Cracker.

Cracker was the YC1 of Big Mom. Right Hand Man. When Snack was defeated by Urogue she didn't sent Katakuri. When Luffy invaded too.