General & Others STORYTELLING - Gear 5 is amazing
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This was a theory, the only things factual were the storytelling tools used to explain it.
First you need to tell me where you see concepts and panel reused by Oda for me to have a better idea of what you are talking about.
Secondly, I'm not going off topic, art is about inspiration, using works from previous person is how creativity works.
Thirdly using idea from previous works to create new story, new situations and new concepts is not lazy writing, its precisely the job of storytellers.
Here firstly I think you are mistaking trope and cliches.
Secondly cliche reused in a new creative way are not cliches anymore, its creativity.
Here firstly .. Bait and switch is a trope. Trope are not bad per say, they are just reccurent tools in storytelling.
Secondly, the technique used in the revelation of Gear 5 is NOT .. AGAIN... a bait and switch. Its a simple diversion technique.
First you need to tell me where you see concepts and panel reused by Oda for me to have a better idea of what you are talking about.
Secondly, I'm not going off topic, art is about inspiration, using works from previous person is how creativity works.
Thirdly using idea from previous works to create new story, new situations and new concepts is not lazy writing, its precisely the job of storytellers.
Here firstly I think you are mistaking trope and cliches.
Secondly cliche reused in a new creative way are not cliches anymore, its creativity.
Here firstly .. Bait and switch is a trope. Trope are not bad per say, they are just reccurent tools in storytelling.
Secondly, the technique used in the revelation of Gear 5 is NOT .. AGAIN... a bait and switch. Its a simple diversion technique.
I already shared the comparison of Luffy with Tom & Jerry.
Plus, imaginative powers, especially the way Luffy uses them, are exactly the same as in The Mask movie.
Cliche is still a cliche no matter how you use it.
It is too extreme to be called a simple diversion.
Others also awaken, but their fruits dont change.
Their fruits dont allow them to get back to life by faster heart beat.
They dont give them reality warping abilities.
They cant summon glasses out of thin air.
Plus, imaginative powers, especially the way Luffy uses them, are exactly the same as in The Mask movie.
Cliche is still a cliche no matter how you use it.
It is too extreme to be called a simple diversion.
Others also awaken, but their fruits dont change.
Their fruits dont allow them to get back to life by faster heart beat.
They dont give them reality warping abilities.
They cant summon glasses out of thin air.
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Here we have an author who likes adding things on the fly to the point it affects his story going forward, as well as admit that he switches things up on the fly if he feels it's predictable(judging from accurate predictions he sees online or some fan mail), and he thinks too many hints makes his story predictable(red flag). He also said some supposed long term foreshadowing were just unplanned coincidences like Noland and the dwarfs. He also makes mistakes and have to correct them like with Katakuri originally being a full logia.
And yet we got someone who's pretty much saying he knows more about than the author than the author himself. The rubber fruit being a secret mythical zoan had absolutely no foreshadowing til the last minute, and the execution was lazy and nothing special.
And yet we got someone who's pretty much saying he knows more about than the author than the author himself. The rubber fruit being a secret mythical zoan had absolutely no foreshadowing til the last minute, and the execution was lazy and nothing special.
*pushes up glasses*
Nice try, baka.
But did you consider that the author is not important?
The story itself, being fully sentient, begged for somebody to notice all the subtleties it was hiding in plain sight. For somebody to grasp the idea the story (not the author) was trying to practicaly scream out!
It does not matter in the slightest what some puny author did, or wanted to do. The story is completely separate from the man that penned and drew it, and sends out its own messages.
Whatsmore, an author can't even be relied upon to tell you about the intricacies of his own story. It is only when analyzed by scholars of storytelling that the story can finally be understood.
Nice try, baka.
But did you consider that the author is not important?
The story itself, being fully sentient, begged for somebody to notice all the subtleties it was hiding in plain sight. For somebody to grasp the idea the story (not the author) was trying to practicaly scream out!
It does not matter in the slightest what some puny author did, or wanted to do. The story is completely separate from the man that penned and drew it, and sends out its own messages.
Whatsmore, an author can't even be relied upon to tell you about the intricacies of his own story. It is only when analyzed by scholars of storytelling that the story can finally be understood.
Know what's funny about this? When it became even more obvious that Carrot wasn't joining, C4N said that Oda either made a big mistake or changed his plans, but G5? Masterfully done and planned from the get go. He also had no clue that editors could affect the course of an author's story despite being such a knowledgeable storytelling scholar.
Hmmmm
I have to break it to you all because most people think oda made G5 at last minute which isn't true
This is from SBS volume 65 (a decade ago if I am right)
D: In the ONE PIECE of these days, all kinds of strong ability users whom even Luffy can't compete with have been appearing, one after the other. In general manga and anime, I feel that the protagonist is established to be the strongest of all, but why did you decide to turn Luffy into a pretty weak-looking rubber Devil Fruit user? P.N. Do your best Japan
O: Ahaha, that is true. It must seem like a mystery when you consider all the other strong and cool abilities. The answer is simple. I have picked the most ridiculous ability. If the protagonist were the typical strong guy, I doubt I could continue on with this for long. No matter how serious the story gets, Luffy is there to stretch and inflate. He always give me a chance to fool around. That's the kind of manga I wanted to write.
In 2022 interview, oda said - he always wanted to draw G5 because he doesn't wanted op to be a serious manga even if some people doesn't like it.
So he had the idea regarding how he wanted luffy power to be that is Gear 5. It's definitely not a retcon or last minute thought up thing as some people say.
What he didn't do is foreshadowing of Luffy df being nika or mythical zoan df and didn't set it up properly or you can say executed it well
I have to break it to you all because most people think oda made G5 at last minute which isn't true
This is from SBS volume 65 (a decade ago if I am right)
D: In the ONE PIECE of these days, all kinds of strong ability users whom even Luffy can't compete with have been appearing, one after the other. In general manga and anime, I feel that the protagonist is established to be the strongest of all, but why did you decide to turn Luffy into a pretty weak-looking rubber Devil Fruit user? P.N. Do your best Japan
O: Ahaha, that is true. It must seem like a mystery when you consider all the other strong and cool abilities. The answer is simple. I have picked the most ridiculous ability. If the protagonist were the typical strong guy, I doubt I could continue on with this for long. No matter how serious the story gets, Luffy is there to stretch and inflate. He always give me a chance to fool around. That's the kind of manga I wanted to write.
In 2022 interview, oda said - he always wanted to draw G5 because he doesn't wanted op to be a serious manga even if some people doesn't like it.
So he had the idea regarding how he wanted luffy power to be that is Gear 5. It's definitely not a retcon or last minute thought up thing as some people say.
What he didn't do is foreshadowing of Luffy df being nika or mythical zoan df and didn't set it up properly or you can say executed it well
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Many things make sense:
1.Shanks of all people going after a random dumb gum gum fruit never made sense to me, now it makes perfect sense why he picked that fruit.
2.Luffy's unusual body was surprising to many characters before, many of his opponents noted that he's doing things that aren't really possible with just rubber.
3.For all the people that think Luffy's fruit being a zoan doesn't make sense, just ask yourself if you didn't know what Luffy's fruit classification was, what fruit type would you guess it is? Based on Luffy's extreme body transformations, I would say most would guess it's a zoan.
1.Shanks of all people going after a random dumb gum gum fruit never made sense to me, now it makes perfect sense why he picked that fruit.
2.Luffy's unusual body was surprising to many characters before, many of his opponents noted that he's doing things that aren't really possible with just rubber.
3.For all the people that think Luffy's fruit being a zoan doesn't make sense, just ask yourself if you didn't know what Luffy's fruit classification was, what fruit type would you guess it is? Based on Luffy's extreme body transformations, I would say most would guess it's a zoan.
Well, toonforce is not part of rubber powers. He can create goggles out of nothing and turns his surroundings into Looney Tunes.
Also, I think the rubber power of G5 is not really rubbery, it is way too familiar with the way how Looney Tunes characters behave. It's not that he turns the surroundings elastic and flexible but that he bends reality to his imagination.
That's why Luffy has no issues suddenly turning into a giant without blowing air into his bones. He just naturally does and that's not how rubber behaves.
It started getting odd when Kaido mentioned how Snake Man doesn't actually behave like rubber. That was the moment when Luffy's reality bending power started to kick in.
Shanks told Luffy he ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi - I think that was the moment when Luffy instinctively formed his reality warping fruit to be rubber, thus having properties of rubber. The more Luffy started to be creative with his abilities, the less his DF started to behave like rubber.
That's my take about that.
Also, I think the rubber power of G5 is not really rubbery, it is way too familiar with the way how Looney Tunes characters behave. It's not that he turns the surroundings elastic and flexible but that he bends reality to his imagination.
That's why Luffy has no issues suddenly turning into a giant without blowing air into his bones. He just naturally does and that's not how rubber behaves.
It started getting odd when Kaido mentioned how Snake Man doesn't actually behave like rubber. That was the moment when Luffy's reality bending power started to kick in.
Shanks told Luffy he ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi - I think that was the moment when Luffy instinctively formed his reality warping fruit to be rubber, thus having properties of rubber. The more Luffy started to be creative with his abilities, the less his DF started to behave like rubber.
That's my take about that.
i think time scale can explain that one . Except time skip , luffy has never been one place more than one week . Moslt less than one week. Only place he stayed very long time was wano. Based on tons of island in the one piece world , even they tried , they cannot able to cath luffy. Even in the egghead , they surprisingly confronting luffy .
