Anime & Manga The Amount of downplaying Zoro gets from reddit and twitter is astonishing

#61
True, they will always find a way to portray them as good guys when in reality they are the most toxic ones, all they do is downplay anyone who is not zoro or mihawk and every second sentence they write contains sanji and how bad he is, they think he is some kind of god who is stronger then luffy when he isn't. Its always luffy>zoro>sanji but they just cant go one second when someone tells them the truth in their face, for example what zoro did was way more impressive then sanji but zoro did not block it for more then a second and needed a drug to get back to fighting while sanji not even his strongest form fought king and queen for some time, they would say with their headcannon he fought for a second, still got up like few seconds later, but of course they would not say it because either they are delusional or they just disregarding facts on purpose to be more toxic and then act like saints, pathetic.
It's not always luffy zoro sanji, that's why luffy was asleep at thriller bark and nothing happened to zoro, after dressrosa Zoro fought fodder hawkins onimaru killer fodder apoo drake, gets new sword and trains then fights 2 yonko, luffy had to fight fodder 2 commanders with help, more fodder, goes to wano fights more fodder, trains in udon under a haki master fights fodder, gets folded by queen, trains some more fodder, gets kod by apoo and kaido, the paths to the finish line were not the same, because zoro didn't need to grow as much to be rooftop ready
 
#62
"Why do you think every fandom hates most of the Zoro fandom"

Idk, let's see. From reddit to forums, I remember when people started being toxic to you and calling you Zorotard if you even implied that Zoro would fight Kaido- not even defeat, just fight and scar, during Act II.

A lot of the people you're in league with would make predictions such as

"Zoro will fight Who's Who"
"Zoro will not go to rooftop"
"Zoro is done for the arc after Hakai"

So on and so fort. And if the Zoro fans disagreed, they'd be called retarded toxic fanboys.

What anyone can gather from factual history is that said Zoro fans are constantly shit on and insulted for rightfully reading the story by people who get 9/10 predictions regarding Zoro wrong just to shit on him.

Since the thread mentions reddit, here's an example of an innocent post trying to say Zoro will cut Kaido (scar him)

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/fb3wl1
The top comment is literally "Enma will break on Kaido."

Now, mister, tell me; which was the toxic community?

-The one that said Zoro will fight and scar Kaido, which already happened
-Or the one that called you retarded and insulted you for making above prediction.

Only one being a hypocrite is you.
Top tier hypocrisy, you compare 5 people who wrote that vs 1000 zorofans who said shit like page one vs sanji rematch, sanji vs kanjuro, sanji vs persopero, sanji will need help vs queen and even now you keep shitting on sanji by saying that queen is shit and not even close to king at all, you guys are the epitome of hypocrisy, and no one care what some zoro fans said about zoro vs kaido because sane fans would say the same things as a possibility, its just they dont think about zoro 24/7 to spam it.
 
#64
It's not always luffy zoro sanji, that's why luffy was asleep at thriller bark and nothing happened to zoro, after dressrosa Zoro fought fodder hawkins onimaru killer fodder apoo drake, gets new sword and trains then fights 2 yonko, luffy had to fight fodder 2 commanders with help, more fodder, goes to wano fights more fodder, trains in udon under a haki master fights fodder, gets folded by queen, trains some more fodder, gets kod by apoo and kaido, the paths to the finish line were not the same, because zoro didn't need to grow as much to be rooftop ready
Doesn't matter because in the end of the day luffy is the main character, you can shit on him as much as you want and he can look as bad as oda wants because in the end he will be the strongest and you cant argue that.
 

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#67
Ain't the prophecy is about Ace?
You can make the same for Luffy. Wherr did it say that 'yeah, Luffy becomes pirate king'. There are many D's not just Luffy. Just like many shimotsukis. Many are aiming to find one piece. Where it was predetermined that Luffy will become pirate king? I can also say it is coincidence regarding Luffy. Emperors trying, anyone who finds Rafael can literally have an equal chance to fulfill the so called destiny.
roger thinks that it is ace.

two sovereigns meeting ~ luffy and shirahoshi.
roger talking about a man yet to be born (all the current emperors were born/alive back then) surpassing them ~ clearly luffy.
oden talking about opening wano's borders to aid joyboy and then predicting that the powerful pirates of the new world will defeat kaido 20 years later ~ clearly luffy and the powerful pirates referring to the worst generation.

Oh wait, if you want to say Oda predetermined Luffy destiny, then I won't argue with you and concede.
oda is bring in prophecies/destiny BS into luffy's dream and one piece and that is exactly what people hate.
as long as there isnt any prophecy being talked about with zoro, his connection to ryuma is just a parallel/coincidence.

the moment there is a prophecy/destiny that zoro will become WSS is the day zoro's character is ruined, for me atleast.
 
#68
Doesn't matter because in the end of the day luffy is the main character, you can shit on him as much as you want and he can look as bad as oda wants because in the end he will be the strongest and you cant argue that.
No one is denying at this point that Luffy will remain the strongest pirate in the story. It wouldn't make sense for a MC to be weaker than secondary MCs. But it always has been potrayed that Zoro and Luffy are very close in power and in some arcs zoro was not only close, but equal to luffy. Not saying that he ever surpassed him but still. Right now Zoro is close to luffy.
 
#69
The honorable thing about zoro fans is that they dare to dream about their character. They dreamed about zoro having coc haki when nobody did. and they got proved right. Sanji fans have followers mentality. they couldn't even dream about sanji having coc before. but the moment zoro got it, reddit got swarmed by sanji having coc too...... they just wait for zoro to do stuff so that they can say "see sanji can do this too"..... kind of pathetic not gonna lie.

atleast sanji fans fight their battle.....................i still can respect that................... luffy fans on the other hand will act superior and think "everything is zoro/sanji fans" problems.....how they are above all that.. but they had a meltdown when kaido threw luffy off the roof. they really thought base luffy=kaido after chapter 1010 and luffy was gonna beat him solo. they already think luffy> fujitora and how fujitora is weakest admiral just because zoro pushed fujitora back in dressrosa and fought equally in the stampede movie. very insecure fanbase
Luffy literally fought Kaido one on one before he was thrown off, and Kaido was actively dodging Luffy's coc attacks. So the assumption was made that Luffy will finally defeat Kaido and he has reached to his level., it was proven later Luffy still needs to surpass Kaido. There's nothing wrong in assuming Luffy will fight Kaido solo, as the biggest myth related to Kaido is on one on one always bet on Kaido.
Stampede is not canon and we all know Fujitora was not even trying with Luffy and Zoro.
When the argument is luffy is MC and not the portrayed feats, you can see why people get mad, cause deep down we all know Zoro >Luffy
Nobody things, Deep down even the hardcore Zoro fans think Luffy >= Zoro
And if they post otherwise they are just insecure fucks and trolling.
 
#70
No they are still plenty of Zoro haters tbh every single time character shows something impressive it's Zoro fandom against everyone as shown by latest chapter lmao.
Yeah, if character impressivenes is 1$, fans paint it as 10$ while hardcore paint it as never before never after or no one else matters. Don't just turn a blind eye to it. I have literally seen in this thread someone said Zoro >>> Sanji for every 1$ impressiveness. Or how many king fans pop up literally since Zoro started fighting King or number of Sanji bashing threads. Oh yeah, agreed there are retarded Lanjis and Condoms in this forum but hey none can match your bunch in this forum.
 
#80
Top tier hypocrisy, you compare 5 people who wrote that vs 1000 zorofans who said shit like page one vs sanji rematch, sanji vs kanjuro, sanji vs persopero, sanji will need help vs queen and even now you keep shitting on sanji by saying that queen is shit and not even close to king at all, you guys are the epitome of hypocrisy, and no one care what some zoro fans said about zoro vs kaido because sane fans would say the same things as a possibility, its just they dont think about zoro 24/7 to spam it.
Yeah, no. Go to the link and literally all the upvoted (by a good lot of numbers) comment are shitting on Zoro and saying he be won't even be able to put any scratch on Kaido.

Guess what happened in the end?

Talking out of your ass is funny if you can't provide factual argument. But majority of the threads out there from past had a lot of people shitting on Zoro fans while those fans only make predictions that turn out true. That's an objective fact and embodiment of toxicity.

Saying Zoro fans collectively claim Sanji would fight Perospero is same as saying Sanji fans collectively think Sanji is > Zoro. Not how it works. You need to provide evidence of how majority was this or that before bullshitting like this.

Also, don't even speak of hypocrisy when people use parallels Zoro rightfully has with Sanji as Luffy's two main men to say they're equals, while ignoring countless portrayal and parallels that also put Zoro above any other crewmate of Luffy in both prominence and strength. Arguing to fit your agenda is something you do- and this isn't even about feats, which you pretend doesn't even exist when it comes to Zoro.
 
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