Anime & Manga The Amount of downplaying Zoro gets from reddit and twitter is astonishing

#82
roger thinks that it is ace.

two sovereigns meeting ~ luffy and shirahoshi.
roger talking about a man yet to be born (all the current emperors were born/alive back then) surpassing them ~ clearly luffy.
oden talking about opening wano's borders to aid joyboy and then predicting that the powerful pirates of the new world will defeat kaido 20 years later ~ clearly luffy and the powerful pirates referring to the worst generation.


oda is bring in prophecies/destiny BS into luffy's dream and one piece and that is exactly what people hate.
as long as there isnt any prophecy being talked about with zoro, his connection to ryuma is just a parallel/coincidence.

the moment there is a prophecy/destiny that zoro will become WSS is the day zoro's character is ruined, for me atleast.
You know Ace is also yet to be born by that time. Did you really forgot 'inherited will' concept that One piece followed throughout the story. Did you forgot Whitebeard final words regarding someone will inherit Ace will? According to prophecy, it clearly indicates Ace and even joyboy silhouette in orihime flashback has resemblance of Ace/Shanks. Again Luffy becoming pirate king has nothing to do with joyboy dream.or anything else. Anything happens after finding Raftel is what pertainingto joyboy or everythingelse, then you can comment about it.
 
#84
Zoro fans are the loudest bunch in the fandom even if they think they are few. Most of the powerscaling threads I see are my Zoro 's fans where they keep dissing Luffy and Sanji. Condoms/Candies lmao. Obviously you will get twice the backlash from rest of the fandom.
You can say that, and I agree it's true, but it only stems from years of harrasment when Zoro had all the portrayal but lack of feat due to not being in any fight the entire WCI.

>Zoro will only fight Orochi
>Who's Who is Zoro's arc opponent
>Zoro won't even see Kaido, u zorotard
>Retard, Zoro can't hurt Kaido. Luffy neg diff

And list goes on.

The fact at the end is simply that these people were wrong and Zoro fans weren't. The latter got loud because after all the harassment, they just ended up being right. The former should just quietly take the L rather than bitch about it, specially after they initiated the given Wano toxicity to begin with on incredibly stupid predictions.
 
#86
Yeah, no. Go to the link and literally all the upvotes (by a good lot of numbers) comment are shitting on Zoro and saying you be won't be able to put any scratch on Kaido.

Guess what happened in the end?

Talking out of your ass is funny if you can't provide factual argument. But majority of the threads out there from past had a lot of people shitting on Zoro fans while those fans only make predictions that turn out true. That's an objective fact and embodiment of toxicity.

Saying Zoro fans collectively claim Sanji would fight Perospero is same as saying Sanji fans collectively think Sanji is > Zoro. Not how it works. You need to provide evidence of how majority was this or that before bullshitting like this.

Also, don't even speak of hypocrisy when people use parallels Zoro rightfully has with Sanji as Luffy's two main men to say they're equals, while ignoring countless portrayal and parallels that also put Zoro above any other crewmate of Luffy in both prominence and strength. Arguing to fit your agenda is something you do- and this isn't even about feats, which you pretend doesn't even exist when it comes to Zoro.
Who the fuck said they are equals, you see here you go again with your insecurity about zoro and sanji, i know zoro is stronger, and i know you dont have evidence for shit about what you said so you don't talk out of your ass, zoro fandom shits way more on characters then other ones, and btw its much worse to downplay a character that supposed to be 3rd strongest to that level then to say zoro wont fight the main villain of the arc, clown.
 
#88
Who the fuck said they are equals, you see here you go again with your insecurity about zoro and sanji, i know zoro is stronger, and i know you dont have evidence for shit about what you said so you don't talk out of your ass, zoro fandom shits way more on characters then other ones, and btw its much worse to downplay a character that supposed to be 3rd strongest to that level then to say zoro wont fight the main villain of the arc, clown.
I agree people shouldn't downplay the 3rd strongest member of SHs. There is plenty of feats which put Sanji on to that level. But not only Sanji is getting trashed, Zoro also is getting trashed. Both is unacceptable.
 
#92
Who the fuck said they are equals, you see here you go again with your insecurity about zoro and sanji, i know zoro is stronger, and i know you dont have evidence for shit about what you said so you don't talk out of your ass, zoro fandom shits way more on characters then other ones, and btw its much worse to downplay a character that supposed to be 3rd strongest to that level then to say zoro wont fight the main villain of the arc, clown.
See what I meant?

you keep shitting on sanji by saying that queen is shit and not even close to king at all, you guys are the epitome of hypocrisy, and no one care what some zoro fans said about zoro vs kaido because sane fans would say the same things as a possibility, its just they dont think about zoro 24/7 to spam it.
Imagine generalizing something a few do in a debate with "You do it too", but losing your shit and getting super upset immediately the moment someone returns the favor by saying the exact same shit (me dubbing the fans (chaves, etc) who put Sanji=Zoro as "you"). I've never said Sanji would fight anyone but Queen, either, yet you generalized, didn't you? Why are you getting upset over me doing the same?

That's definition of hypocrisy, mate. It's like calling someone retarded but asking for a ban when they call you retarded back.

As for factual stuff. The post you quoted of mine had an entire thread attached to it to show how majority of people of every fandom would unfairly shit on Zoro and make trash, downplaying predictions only to go wrong.

In reddit, if you were to downplay Sanji by saying he'd fight Page One, you'd sit with -20 downvotes. If you were to say Zoro will not even scratch Kaido or Enma would break on him, you'd sit with +20 upvotes, as I showed you in my link. Instead of just talking out of your ass and insulting me, how about you show similar stuff of people shitting on Sanji being taken as kindly in any community?

Simply doesn't happen. You're toxic for shitting on Sanji. But you're toxic for not being toxic to Zoro. That was the norm onplaces like reddit and twitter for a long, long time- and it's an objective fact.
 
#93
"Why do you think every fandom hates most of the Zoro fandom"

Idk, let's see. From reddit to forums, I remember when people started being toxic to you and calling you Zorotard if you even implied that Zoro would fight Kaido- not even defeat, just fight and scar, during Act II.

A lot of the people you're in league with would make predictions such as

"Zoro will fight Who's Who"
"Zoro will not go to rooftop"
"Zoro is done for the arc after Hakai"

So on and so fort. And if the Zoro fans disagreed, they'd be called retarded toxic fanboys.

What anyone can gather from factual history is that said Zoro fans are constantly shit on and insulted for rightfully reading the story by people who get 9/10 predictions regarding Zoro wrong just to shit on him.

Since the thread mentions reddit, here's an example of an innocent post trying to say Zoro will cut Kaido (scar him)

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/fb3wl1
The top comment is literally "Enma will break on Kaido."

Now, mister, tell me; which was the toxic community?

-The one that said Zoro will fight and scar Kaido, which already happened
-Or the one that called you retarded and insulted you for making above prediction.

Only one being a hypocrite is you.
Man those Reddit comments and downvotes
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:
 
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#94
Oda, the one who writes the story, not anyone on the forums.

When BM looks like trash against weak SHs, or getting BFRed due to being sloppy, that doesn't mean her peak strength is any less.
Luffy likewise is sloppy 90% of the time to allow villains to continue the arc.
I dont think he stated anything like that....
big mom being sloppy got nothing to do with luffy
 

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#97
You know Ace is also yet to be born by that time. Did you really forgot 'inherited will' concept that One piece followed throughout the story. Did you forgot Whitebeard final words regarding someone will inherit Ace will? According to prophecy, it clearly indicates Ace and even joyboy silhouette in orihime flashback has resemblance of Ace/Shanks.
ace didnt even want to be the pirate king at the end.
all he wanted was an answer to whether it was okay for him to be born and be alive.
he only wanted to be the pirate king to surpass his father's legacy and eventually gave that up when he found a family of his own in the whitebeard pirates.
and whitebeard talks about inheritance of will. he never talked about ace's will being that of roger's and luffy inheriting ace's will, if anything sabo and the rest of whitebeard pirates inherited ace's will of protecting luffy.

which otohime(?) flashback are you talking about?

Again Luffy becoming pirate king has nothing to do with joyboy dream.or anything else. Anything happens after finding Raftel is what pertainingto joyboy or everythingelse, then you can comment about it.
roger said that someone will be born that will surpass him.
shanks tells rayleigh that some kid in the east blue said the exact same words as his captain.
the sea kings prophesized that a sovereign from a distant sea will meet shirahoshi in 25-26 years.
oden prophesized that joyboy will come to wano in the future and wano's borders should be open for him.

you gotta flat out ignore all of those evidences to claim that there is no "destiny" involved in luffy's journey.
 

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#99
You can stop pretending you not one of us now.
Its not like some of the other mods even try to hide that they are sanji fans cough rayanOO TAC cough
Everyone considers me a Zoro-fan anyways. I don't see how pretending even makes a difference at this point. I find no shame in admitting I like the character that I defend if I really like it. I say I am not one of you because I am not, though I am perfectly fine with it even if you all don't believe me.

Tacy ain't a Sanji boy, Rayan is though.
 
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