Powers & Abilities The Downplay of MF Admirals and Whitebeard

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Hello guys i'll be talking about MarineFord Whitebeard, as he was in fact the strongest yonkou
Let's Start Off, (Sorry I dont know how to crop)

Aokiji gets dismantled by a (pre-squard) stab whitebeard and was fully healthy at the time (no excuses Yonko's wanker) Aokiji survives and than freezes the ground
Shanks (is actually fighting Kaido, who is actually trying to sneak attack WB while he's fighting the Navy) so he's aware, infact and couldn't do a single thing to WB
Admiral Akaniu, and the whole marine forces have to hold back their power due to family being there. (correct me if im wrong)
yes he was sick but nowhere did marco say , "HE LOST HIS CoA" WB lost CoO which is big in a war like this but something that is not vital for him anyways
WB acknowledging that this is most likely going to be the end, and giving his life for the new generation (which he failed, also yes he was going all out)
The narrator which is oda, still calling and considering the only equal roger

Extra's
there are still more Yonkou level strength pirates out there as you can see "Candidates" Plural form.

Sengoku fought shiki, possibly rodger, and since kaido fans keep saying kaido fought everybody and considred those top 5, he fought kaido and still put newgate at the top (the same person who he saw stabbed, sick, unable to use CoO
Yes, Marco used Observation haki at marineford
@Admiral Lee Hung is the best
 
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I agree WB was still the strongest yonko. That was proven both by title and what other important characters said (Garp, BM etc.) and by feats (no other dying character can beat Akainu and yami BB in succession plus all the other things he did in Marineford, not even close, maybe or most likely Shanks at this point given he clashed equally with WB, even if it was just a clash, Akainu was speedblitzed and frozen by fear and lastly we have Kaido aknowledgement as well but Shanks is a special case given his relationship with Luffy so the importance for the story). If this wasn't true, so WB was the weakest yonko, then any other healthy yonko could take a day or 2 of vacancy and go wipe Marijoa along with the admirals and whatnot.

Then of course there are many things to consider: WB was the undisputed ruler of the seas, he was feared like a monster, yet he was sick and that took a toll just that nobody really know how much bar WB himself (even Marco was surprised by Sgaurdo being able to hit him and the reader as well can make acomparison with WB dodging and oneshotting Ace while trying to kill him in his sleep), old age can go in the same category as his sickness (even if his sickness has the greater role in his weakening, probably) then there is the Sguardo stab, he should have been able to see it etc. but what matters is that he took an huge ass sword through his chest. How many people would have been able to fight like he did? Roger and other people in their tier probably, about other I doubt they would have been able to stay conscious or even survive. Then there is people zerging him (cannonballs, stabs etc.), hearthattacks in the middle of a fight and finally the toll he paid to defeat Akainu, even if he didn't give a damn about losing half his face and the magma punch that for sure was heavier than Sguardo stab but he not only beated Akainu but proceeded to beat yami BB after that and finally dying at BB crew swarming him, nope, he gave a speech after that and then he was done and so could die. The problem is that beating Akainu and BB in succession is something nobdy has hopes to do, bar god tiers like him, the only one at this point is Shanks, BB (always rising in power) and Luffy when he approaches EoS, or even now if he displays well enough vs Kaido and BM (afterall not for nothing Kaido saw these "shadows" behind him).
 
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KAIDO D. STRONGER

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Admiral Akaniu, and the whole marine forces have to hold back their power due to family being there. (correct me if im wrong)

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Whitebeard had to hold back his power or he would have wiped out all marineford along with the Admirals ,his crew & Ace
WB stopped himself ...
He only stopped restraining when ACE was rescued, although it was no use anymore, he was already in poor health, reduced strength, burned organs, stabbed, bullets in the body, so much so that when he defeated AKAINU, sengoku said: "Even in this state he has all that power ?! " This really shows that AKAINU is not even able to be compared to an MF WB without FS and reduced COA.
AKAINU MF is weak. Admiral fans pass a fucking cloth, but he is a weakling of shit.
 
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WB stopped himself ...
He only stopped restraining when ACE was rescued,
what chapter is that.
e was already in poor health, reduced strength, burned organs, stabbed, bullets in the body, so much so that when he defeated AKAINU, sengoku said: "Even in this state he has all that power ?!
what chapter, and how did you crop that, anyways, sengoku alr knew he was the strongest yonkou during marineford but just like marco said, his health was draining from taking all them bullets,cannons,sword wounds, and yet he still had all that power he woulda thought it was over
 
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KAIDO D. STRONGER

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what chapter is that.


MF WB will never be the strongest YONKOU.
what chapter, and how did you crop that, anyways, sengoku alr knew he was the strongest yonkou during marineford but just like marco said, his health was draining from taking all them bullets,cannons,sword wounds, and yet he still had all that power he woulda thought it was over
MF WB will never be the strongest YONKOU.
Lol, stop trolling, MF wb no longer had the COA to hurt KAIDO.
Only PRIME WB can give kaido a decent fight.

MF WB was holding back (reducing AP GURA) to fight Akainu LOL).
Although there was no FS or even COA PRIME WB level.
Limited and weak COA.

We saw a small demonstration of WB with burned organs + stabbed with swords (everywhere), + cannonballs divided the island, sengoku "Even in this state he has all this power", imagine the POWER of MF WB gura without containing and without having received all these damages, nobody in the MF could go against the GURA AP with 100% WB, ODA made Squard stab him, and then made him feel bad, and have his organs burned, all to reduce AP gura, while he controlled himself not to accidentally kill AKAINU and ACE if he lost control over GURA LOL.
 
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Lol, stop trolling, MF wb no longer had the COA to hurt KAIDO.
yes he did lol? again when did marco said he lost his CoA strength
MF WB was holding back (reducing AP GURA) to fight Akainu LOL)
no he wasn't lol his first gura made the admirals use their haki
Although there was no FS or even COA PRIME WB level.
Limited and weak COA.
Yankers with their headcannon while I provide information
We saw a small demonstration of WB with burned organs + stabbed with swords (everywhere), + cannonballs divided the island, sengoku
yes it's a war akaniu vs izo who damaged kaido, lol akaniu literally took no damage from izo but kaido did
"Even in this state he has all this power", imagine the POWER of MF WB gura without containing and without having received all these damages, nobody in the MF could go against the GURA AP with 100% WB, ODA made Squard stab him, and then made him feel bad, and have his organs burned, all to reduce AP gura, while he controlled himself not to accidentally kill AKAINU and ACE if he lost control over GURA LOL.
Since when does your physical affect your devil fruit he was not holding back your headcannon, akaniu told him to stop you're going to destroy the island and he said "than stop me" thats why akaniu did at the end of the day oda already said he was the strongest heres a prime example
Morley is 160 yet can use haki, and his devil fruit to his advantage lol
 
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Whitebeard was not even close his Prime back on Marineford, nevertheless Akainu had disintegrated Whitebeard without his awakening coming into play. Whitebeard never KOed Akainu, he was never shown incapacitated, the fact he fell comes off as zilch from a practical perspective.
 
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Admiral Akaniu, and the whole marine forces have to hold back their power due to family being there. (correct me if im wrong)
Yes youre wrong they are evacuated


Shanks (is actually fighting Kaido, who is actually trying to sneak attack WB while he's fighting the Navy) so he's aware, infact and couldn't do a single thing to WB
Him being not be able do a thing to WB doesnt make WB stronger thats Shanks feat
the same Shanks that made a enraging Akainu stop in his tracks
Akainu didnt even dared to attack him
Shanks even picked up his strawhat chatted with Buggy all openings Akainu didnt use then he turned his back on him and walked towards BB Akainu still didnt even dared to appoarch him


Aokiji gets dismantled by a (pre-squard) stab whitebeard and was fully healthy at the time (no excuses Yonko's wanker) Aokiji survives and than freezes the ground
This oldbeard is like Rayleigh and Garp beyond his prime and Aokiji survived an long range attack like all Logias
btw all Logias can do that its not special again the basics are absent logia are intangible


yes he was sick but nowhere did marco say , "HE LOST HIS CoA" WB lost CoO which is big in a war like this but something that is not vital for him anyways
He lost his COO but his COA remains intact
So it means this sickness only targets COO anything else isnt affected because that makes sense he couldnt even use COC to save Ace Luffy had to use it

The narrator which is oda, still calling and considering the only equal roger
He recalls his past you know his match with Roger was two decades ago
thats old accomplished that doesnt make MF WB equal to the man that could sense Oden miles away clash equally with Roger


Sengoku fought shiki, possibly rodger, and since kaido fans keep saying kaido fought everybody and considred those top 5, he fought kaido and still put newgate at the top (the same person who he saw stabbed, sick, unable to use CoO

The same narrator that calls Kaido the strongest fighter in a one o one fight
WB being above him makes sense due first Kaido is younger than WB
WB would now 74 years old and Kaido calls him old man so Kaido is prob over 50 years when WB was in his prime Kaido was just a rookie so WB status is higher

Also Ace novel explained it WB is being called the strongest due his lifestyle and Kaido would still win any one o one
 
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Yes youre wrong they are evacuated
it's still marine hq so your point?
This is oldbeard like Rayleigh and Garp beyond his prime and Aokiji survived and long range attack all Logias can do that its not special again the basics are absent logia are intangible
how many times do I have to say, your devil fruit doesn't grow old understand through your brain, also wb had haki
He lost his COO but his COA remains intact isnt being affected yeah because that makes sense he couldnt even use COC to save Ace Luffy had to use it
CoA and CoC are two diff things
He recalls his past you know his match with Roger was two decades ago old accomplished that doesnt make MF WB equal to the man that could sense Oden miles away clash equally with Roger
Kaido doesnt have CoO meme has weak cOO so your point? oda already called him the strongest pirate you obviously didnt read the pictures
The same narrator that calls Kaido the strongest fighter in a one o one fight
WB being above him makes sense due first Kaido is younger than WB
WB would now 74 years old and Kaido calls him old man so Kaido is prob over 50 years when WB was in his prime Kaido was just a rookie so WB status is higher
The narrator also had top tiers confirm wb was the strongest, when oda had to put it in a rumor form because its not true couldnt even beat meme
Also Ace novel explained it WB is being called the strongest due his lifestyle and Kaido would still win any one o one
the ace novel also said in physical strength youngbeard>kaido so weevil>kaido lol
and it also called wb the strongest pirate, kaido needed the marines to make wb weak so he can take the old man on lol
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Shanks that made a enraging Akainu stop in his tracks Akainu didnt even dared to attack him
or sengoku also agreeded with shanks because fighting was useless they already did their main goal which was to defend Navy HQ and kill ace but a bonus was whitebeard
 
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it's still marine hq so your point?
You forgot your point they didnt had to worry about there family you just blindy took an panel where the word family fell and you thought the families are still in MF because Akainu said family this misunderstanding is throughout your whole argumentation

how many times do I have to say, your devil fruit doesn't grow old understand through your brain, also wb had haki
DF doesnt grow old but the user him having haki its true its a long range attack and its not really concentrated his fruit destroys the whole area also attacks like that are easy for Logia users

CoA and CoC are two diff things
Ehm no both have the same source there function is different but source is the same again a basic you didnt understand if you didnt learn the alphabet its hard to discuss you know because of obvious reasons ?


Kaido doesnt have CoO meme has weak cOO so your point? oda already called him the strongest pirate you obviously didnt read the pictures
The novel did it right WB was the strongest due his lifestyle but Kaido would beat him in a one o one

The narrator also had top tiers confirm wb was the strongest, when oda had to put it in a rumor form because its not true couldnt even beat meme
Its because he is the older and more expierenced pirate he holds the title when WB was 36 years old Kaido was just an apprentice so 14-18 years
WB was hailed the strongest long before Kaido was acknowledged a great pirate

the ace novel also said in physical strength youngbeard>kaido so weevil>kaido lol
and it also called wb the strongest pirate, kaido needed the marines to make wb weak so he can take the old man on lol
The novel didnt said anything like that its said Kaido would win any one o one because he cant die
and WB is the strongest pirate due him being a classic pirate while Kaido is like a gangster

or sengoku also agreeded with shanks because fighting was useless they already did their main goal which was to defend Navy HQ and kill ace but a bonus was whitebeard
this happend after not before so its Shanks overwhelming presence that stopped him
 
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