General & Others The seraphim are not King

Albino πŸ‘‘

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The seraphim are not king.

Just because the seraphim have their lunarian powers thanks to his blood being used doesn't mean they are him. Them being children dont cap them at child alber level.
Yes in flame mode they're practically invincible and out of it they can be hurt like alber. That isn't an alber only ability tho it's an ability all lunarians have

All lunarians have
  1. Flame invincibility and flame off speed
  2. Dark skin
  3. Black wings
  4. White hair
  5. Pyrokenisis
King also has those features him being the only alive natural lunarian we know of but again so do all lunarians
King despite isn't a representation of how strong are lunarians are and could be. He's a representation of what features and abilities they have
The seraphim aren't just perfect clones of alber and thats on purpose



The seraphim are supposed to be a culmination of vegapunks scientific achievements
  1. They are his strongest model of pacifista (aka cyborgs)
  2. They are clones of previous warlords. Them having all the skills and abilities of the original outside of haki and weapons
    • Them even sharing similar personalities
    • Them being children still doesn't mean they cap that the child versions of the original or that they're necessarily weaker than the current versions
  3. They are gigantified making them even more physically strong in comparison to their original versions
  4. They all have green blood giving each a paramecia fruit. Even the ones that didn't originally have them like jinbe and mihawk
  5. And obviously lunarian abilities
 
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Albino πŸ‘‘ said:

The seraphim are not king.

Just because the seraphim have their lunarian powers thanks to his blood being used doesn't mean they are him. Them being children dont cap them at child alber level.
Yes in flame mode they're practically invincible and out of it they can be hurt like alber. That isn't an alber only ability tho it's an ability all lunarians have

All lunarians have
  1. Flame invincibility and flame off speed
  2. Dark skin
  3. Black wings
  4. White hair
  5. Pyrokenisis
King also has those features him being the only alive natural lunarian we know of but again so do all lunarians
King despite isn't a representation of how strong are lunarians are and could be. He's a representation of what features and abilities they have
The seraphim aren't just perfect clones of alber and thats on purpose



The seraphim are supposed to be a culmination of vegapunks scientific achievements
  1. They are his strongest model of pacifista (aka cyborgs)
  2. They are clones of previous warlords. Them having all the skills and abilities of the original outside of haki and weapons
    • Them even sharing similar personalities
    • Them being children still doesn't mean they cap that the child versions of the original or that they're necessarily weaker than the current versions
  3. They are gigantified making them even more physically strong in comparison to their original versions
  4. They all have green blood giving each a paramecia fruit. Even the ones that didn't originally have them like jinbe and mihawk
  5. And obviously lunarian abilities
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King fans know this
They just wanna cope
 
Albino πŸ‘‘

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Gol D. Roger said:
A more appropriate title would be "The Seraphim aren't 13-year-old King," and the vice-versa is equally true.
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Limiting them at child king is like limiting shark to child jinbe etc.

They have kings race abilities and features they aren't limited to king
  1. King's strength doesn't represent their strength
  2. King's strength doesn't represent all lunarians strength
  3. All lunarians aren't equal to king
  4. All 13 year old lunarians aren't equal to 13 year old king

Just like how jinbe doesn't represent the strength of all Fishmen or the dukes don't represent the strength of all mink
  1. Jinbe like all all fishmen is born naturally at least 10Γ— stronger than humans, can breathe underwater becoming even stronger, and talk to sea creatures
  2. The dukes like all mink are born with electro, the ability to float using their tails, and go sulong
  3. King like all lunarians are born with the same physical features, are able to fly, and able to use their flame to be essentially invincible and turn it off making them faster
King isn't all lunarians he just has the same abilities
Jinbe isn't all fishmen he just has the same abilities
The dukes aren't all mink they just have the same abilities
Etc.
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Blazing Lion said:
You are stuck on King and Lunarians, let it go man.

King is like Perfect Cell while the Seraphims are like Cell Jrs with Yamcha, Tien, Krillin techniques.
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Yall need to stop using king as a limitation for them but not keeping that same energy for the warlords they're clones of
 
Gol D. Roger

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Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
Limiting them at child king is like limiting shark to child jinbe etc.

They have kings race abilities and features they aren't limited to king
  1. King's strength doesn't represent their strength
  2. King's strength doesn't represent all lunarians strength
  3. All lunarians aren't equal to king
  4. All 13 year old lunarians aren't equal to 13 year old king

Just like how jinbe doesn't represent the strength of all Fishmen or the dukes don't represent the strength of all mink
  1. Jinbe like all all fishmen is born naturally at least 10Γ— stronger than humans, can breathe underwater becoming even stronger, and talk to sea creatures
  2. The dukes like all mink are born with electro, the ability to float using their tails, and go sulong
  3. King like all lunarians are born with the same physical features, are able to fly, and able to use their flame to be essentially invincible and turn it off making them faster
King isn't all lunarians he just has the same abilities
Jinbe isn't all fishmen he just has the same abilities
The dukes aren't all mink they just have the same abilities
Etc.
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No one said they are limited to King. I said the exact opposite, but whatever their Lunarain parts constitute is the same as what King had when he was 13 because the Seraphim bodies are nothing but clones of 13-year-old King.
 
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Gol D. Roger said:
No one said they are limited to King. I said the exact opposite, but whatever their Lunarain parts constitute is the same as what King had when he was 13 because the Seraphim bodies are nothing but clones of 13-year-old King.
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All lunarians are capable of lunarian abilities

13 year old flame on king, adult flame on king, flame on seraphim, and any other flame on lunarian are just as invincible as eachother when its on

  1. They're all invincible with flame
  2. Vulnerable but faster when its off
  3. White hair, dark skin, black wings, and fire on back etc.
Those are lunarian abilities not king specific abilities
Doesn't mean all lunarians are equal in strength to king because of it
 
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Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
All lunarians are capable of lunarian abilities

13 year old flame on king, adult flame on king, flame on seraphim, and any other flame on lunarian are just as invincible as eachother when its on

  1. They're all invincible with flame
  2. Vulnerable but faster when its off
  3. White hair, dark skin, black wings, and fire on back etc.
Those are lunarian abilities not king specific abilities
Doesn't mean all lunarians are equal in strength to king because of it
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These guys created something that doesn't exist

There's no such thing as "adult lunarian have better durability in flames mode than teens/kids"

The only thing that may differ is their fire manipulation
But all of them gets automatic invincible durability and other features
 
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The dialogue "The Seraphim are still children! They're not ready for laser tests yet!" literally screams they'll be ready for laser tests when they're older. What are they gonna test against the lasers? Their defense. Why can they only test their defense when they get older? Because it's currently not strong enough for it, meaning it's gonna be strong enough for it when they grow older. Not a hard concept to understand.


Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
All lunarians are capable of lunarian abilities

13 year old flame on king, adult flame on king, flame on seraphim, and any other flame on lunarian are just as invincible as eachother when its on

  1. They're all invincible with flame
  2. Vulnerable but faster when its off
  3. White hair, dark skin, black wings, and fire on back etc.
Those are lunarian abilities not king specific abilities
Doesn't mean all lunarians are equal in strength to king because of it
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I don't know if you're reading your own posts, but you're contradicting yourself in this very post. If all Lunarians aren't equal to King, then it means there are disparities in the level at which they operate their racial abilities, which is what creates the inequalities in the first place. I told you this before, there's not a single race where they're all blessed with equal racial abilities. They just have the same or similar abilities but they're not equally good just like how not every fisherman is as good as Jimbe even if you discord Jimbe non-racial traits.
 
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Read no Mi said:
These guys created something that doesn't exist

There's no such thing as "adult lunarian have better durability in flames mode than teens/kids"

The only thing that may differ is their fire manipulation
But all of them gets automatic invincible durability and other features
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Yeah the seraphim aren't more or less invincible with the flame on than adult king. Idk where that comes from


When it comes to pyrokenisis than yeah possibly since they haven't really used it at all yet

When it comes to that king himself likely has a lot better control than the seraphim currently and most lunarians
Like kings final 3 piece chicken dragon attack is probably alot stronger than what wed see from other natural lunarian. Kinda how like jinbe's water manipulation is way stronger than most Fishman

Gol D. Roger said:
I don't know if you're reading your own posts, but you're contradicting yourself in this very post. If all Lunarians aren't equal to King, then it means there are disparities in the level at which they operate their racial abilities, which is what creates the inequalities in the first place. I told you this before, there's not a single race where they're all blessed with equal racial abilities. They just have the same or similar abilities but they're not equally good just like how not every fisherman is as good as Jimbe even if you discord Jimbe non-racial traits.
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But no i didnt

Not all lunarians are equal in strength despite having the same racial abilities
Not all lunarians are
  1. Equal in strength
  2. Equal in speed
  3. Equal in endurance
  4. Equal in fighting skill
  5. Equal in intelligence
  6. Equal in haki
  7. Not all of them have equal weapons whether its
    • A devil fruit
    • Blade
    • Gun
    • Scientific enhancements
    • Etc.
  8. Etc.
The seraphim, current king, and all lunarians are invincible flame on and faster and more vulnerable when it's off

There isn't any contradiction

Like I know for a fact you dont believe the seraphim are all equal in strength because s-hawk despite all their lunarian abilities being equal
Why is that?
 
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Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
Yeah the seraphim aren't more or less invincible with the flame on than adult king. Idk where that comes from


When it comes to pyrokenisis than yeah possibly since they haven't really used it at all yet

When it comes to that king himself likely has a lot better control than the seraphim currently and most lunarians
Like kings final 3 piece chicken dragon attack is probably alot stronger than what wed see from other natural lunarian. Kinda how like jinbe's water manipulation is way stronger than most Fishman
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That's because we haven't seen them take attacks that King can while they can't, like, a laser for instance. These kids are nearly as invulnerable but King goes a little further than them, which cannot be observed in a lot of cases. King also created an internal blast and came out unscratched while the Seraphim are getting stunned by element-based attacks even if they were not necessarily getting damaged.

Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
But no i didnt

Not all lunarians are equal in strength despite having the same racial abilities
Not all lunarians are
  1. Equal in strength
  2. Equal in speed
  3. Equal in endurance
  4. Equal in fighting skill
  5. Equal in intelligence
  6. Equal in haki
  7. Not all of them have equal weapons whether its
    • A devil fruit
    • Blade
    • Gun
    • Scientific enhancements
    • Etc.
  8. Etc.
The seraphim, current king, and all lunarians are invincible flame on and faster and more vulnerable when it's off

There isn't any contradiction

Like I know for a fact you dont believe the seraphim are all equal in strength because s-hawk despite all their lunarian abilities being equal
Why is that?
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Do you think Jimbe isn't physically more gifted than the other fishermen? It's not just the skill and Haki that makes Jinbe different from the rest of the fishermen despite them sharing the same genetics. King or anyone from any race is the same.
 
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Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
Yeah the seraphim aren't more or less invincible with the flame on than adult king. Idk where that comes from


When it comes to pyrokenisis than yeah possibly since they haven't really used it at all yet

When it comes to that king himself likely has a lot better control than the seraphim currently and most lunarians
Like kings final 3 piece chicken dragon attack is probably alot stronger than what wed see from other natural lunarian. Kinda how like jinbe's water manipulation is way stronger than most Fishman


But no i didnt

Not all lunarians are equal in strength despite having the same racial abilities
Not all lunarians are
  1. Equal in strength
  2. Equal in speed
  3. Equal in endurance
  4. Equal in fighting skill
  5. Equal in intelligence
  6. Equal in haki
  7. Not all of them have equal weapons whether its
    • A devil fruit
    • Blade
    • Gun
    • Scientific enhancements
    • Etc.
  8. Etc.
The seraphim, current king, and all lunarians are invincible flame on and faster and more vulnerable when it's off

There isn't any contradiction

Like I know for a fact you dont believe the seraphim are all equal in strength because s-hawk despite all their lunarian abilities being equal
Why is that?
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It also goes with the fact
Zoro didn't even say "King is more durable in flames mods than them"

Thinking one lunarian is more tanky than the other is silly
King has a zoan df, that's why he maybe be more durable , same way Seraphim have more than just Lunarian genes
but when it comes to just Purely Lunarian flames mode...no such thing as "one is more tanky" so far
 
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LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
kind of embarrassing potentially king was this blessed genetically as a kid
and 40 + yrs later
he is just a yc1.


seraphim look almost as strong as king is as infants. King is only one part of their dna , they have others to thank for other things.
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People keep attributing all their strength and power to just king refusing to acknowledge everything else that makes them up and it makes no sense

Lunarian abilities are definitely strong
Like we even have emperor luffy and lucci getting stalled by s-bear + 1yc zoro (who already beat king) and kaku being stalled by s-hawk

Lunarians are blessed with an extremely annoying and tough ability but that doesn't make them all equal or invincible

Not being able to hurt them while their flame is on doesn't mean they're stronger than said characters

Gol D. Roger said:
That's because we haven't seen them take attacks that King can while they can't, like, a laser for instance. These kids are nearly as invulnerable but King goes a little further than them, which cannot be observed in a lot of cases. King also created an internal blast and came out unscratched while the Seraphim are getting stunned by element-based attacks even if they were not necessarily getting damaged.



Do you think Jimbe isn't physically more gifted than the other fishermen? It's not just the skill and Haki that makes Jinbe different from the rest of the fishermen despite them sharing the same genetics. King or anyone from any race is the same.
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So your saying franky laser > g4 luffy + hybrid lucci and zoro + kaku?

Zoro already told us the seraphim flame off are invincible like king
Zoro is actively struggling to hurt hawk with kaku's help despite beating king

Just like we haven't seen the seraphim take attacks king did we haven't seen king take attacks the seraphim did by that logic



Obviously not all fishmen, human, giants, lunarians, etc. Are equal in physical strength because they're the same race
Jinbe like all fishmen are born naturally 10Γ— stronger than humans.

King's flame on invincibility is a racial ability all lunarians are born with. They aren't more or less invincible
The seraphim are also invincible just like king with their flame on. It's an ability they all have
 
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Albino πŸ‘‘ said:
People keep attributing all their strength and power to just king refusing to acknowledge everything else that makes them up and it makes no sense

Lunarian abilities are definitely strong
Like we even have emperor luffy and lucci getting stalled by s-bear + 1yc zoro (who already beat king) and kaku being stalled by s-hawk

Lunarians are blessed with an extremely annoying and tough ability but that doesn't make them all equal or invincible

Not being able to hurt them while their flame is on doesn't mean they're stronger than said characters
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people rank the seraphim so evidently
king's genes are half of the full picture


they are also cloned from the OG warlords.
 
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