General & Others Understanding that some things are exclusive to Luffy and Zoro in the Strawhat crew.
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Is luffy Itachi now? No way he would acheive his dream like that. 
It's not possible cuz like I told you BM would chase him down and at the very least BB would eventually find him. There is no world where it's possible luffy can become pk without fighting. Luffy himself knows this which is why he said he needs to be able to take the admirals or the yonko. Being ok is directly tied to challenging the world. The WG wouldn't let it happen if they caught wind, other pirates that want to be pk would chase after him, and you have to go into yonko territory multiple times to get what you need to become pk. Even in wci luffy had 2 major fights both of which took half a day.
Again dude Roger already had everything and fought ever other rival in his gen. BM couldn't chase Roger down because Roger was stronger and had a vastly superior crew. Luffy has none of this. Like I told you earlier stop acting like Roger just ran from every everything when you only have 1 instance. Luffy can't do what Roger didn't cuz he isn't already 95% at pk.
Lastly again luffy's goal is to be the most free man in the world. To him that is what it means to be pk not just making it to raftel.
Lastly again luffy's goal is to be the most free man in the world. To him that is what it means to be pk not just making it to raftel.
Strength is a secondary factor for Luffy's dream. Luffy wants to have a big adventure.
That's why he doesn't want to know anything about Raftel and One Piece before hand.
His dream is not to be the strongest, but to be the most free.
He needs to be strong for that, but strength is not ultimately what he seeks.
That's why he doesn't want to know anything about Raftel and One Piece before hand.
His dream is not to be the strongest, but to be the most free.
He needs to be strong for that, but strength is not ultimately what he seeks.
Provin Zoro a king. Luffy got biggest steal of all time. Maybe the marines shouldve went with, the monkey burglar, Monkey D Luffy
if you mean secondary as in less important
then a hard disagree
not secondary if thats what we spend the most time on.....
his dream isnt to be the strongest
but to achieve it
he has to be if not close to that so unfortunately its synonymous. cant be secondary is he himself states this
then a hard disagree
not secondary if thats what we spend the most time on.....
his dream isnt to be the strongest
but to achieve it
he has to be if not close to that so unfortunately its synonymous. cant be secondary is he himself states this
Zoro's end goal is strength as a swordsman.
Luffy's end goal is a big adventure and freedom.
His end goal is to be the pirate king
- what that means is big adventure and freedom cause luffy stated so
what that also means is surpassing the some of the strongest people in the verse
yonkos and admirals because luffy also suggested the same.
why are you seperating both?
lmao
these goals require them to be strong to achieve it
which is why they are strength related goals
the stronger you get
the more influential the foes you defeat
the closer you are to the said goal
cant be free on the sea if they are people strong enough to take that away
so again
not secondary to achieving his dream
seems very primary .
- what that means is big adventure and freedom cause luffy stated so
what that also means is surpassing the some of the strongest people in the verse
yonkos and admirals because luffy also suggested the same.
why are you seperating both?
lmao
these goals require them to be strong to achieve it
which is why they are strength related goals
the more influential the foes you defeat
the closer you are to the said goal
cant be free on the sea if they are people strong enough to take that away
so again
not secondary to achieving his dream
seems very primary .
No you didn't you talked around it. Here's the questions again and we will make it as simple as possible yes or no.
1. If the sh's never fought again can zoro and luffy accomplish their dreams? Yes or no?
2. Can the other sh's still accomplish their dreams if they never fight again? Yes or no.
I don't want to hear nothing but a yes or no. No mental gymnastics where I shown you that what you are saying is the sh's are fighting for luffy's dream not there own. Your entire premise is wrong here.
1. If the sh's never fought again can zoro and luffy accomplish their dreams? Yes or no?
2. Can the other sh's still accomplish their dreams if they never fight again? Yes or no.
I don't want to hear nothing but a yes or no. No mental gymnastics where I shown you that what you are saying is the sh's are fighting for luffy's dream not there own. Your entire premise is wrong here.
His end goal is to be the pirate king
- what that means is big adventure and freedom cause luffy stated so
what that also means is surpassing the some of the strongest people in the verse
yonkos and admirals because luffy also suggested the same.
why are you seperating both?
lmao
these goals require them to be strong to achieve it
which is why they are strength related goals
the stronger you get
the more influential the foes you defeat
the closer you are to the said goal
cant be free on the sea if they are people strong enough to take that away
so again
not secondary to achieving his dream
seems very primary .
- what that means is big adventure and freedom cause luffy stated so
what that also means is surpassing the some of the strongest people in the verse
yonkos and admirals because luffy also suggested the same.
why are you seperating both?
lmao
these goals require them to be strong to achieve it
which is why they are strength related goals
the more influential the foes you defeat
the closer you are to the said goal
cant be free on the sea if they are people strong enough to take that away
so again
not secondary to achieving his dream
seems very primary .
Luffy seeks the big adventure and freedom and makes use of strength to make that possible.
Zoro seeks strength and makes use of his adventure with Luffy to gain more strength in order to achieve his goal of being the strongest Swordsman.
zoro doesnt want strength in itself
he wants strength to earn a title
luffy wants to be stronger to be the pirate king , to be free at sea
Snitch is said to be the freest pirate at sea
you think luffy would stop where he is ?
whitebeard was the wsm
you think luffy would stop where he is?
luffy would also fail if he wasnt strong enough
Not secondary or less important.
he wants strength to earn a title
luffy wants to be stronger to be the pirate king , to be free at sea
Snitch is said to be the freest pirate at sea
you think luffy would stop where he is ?
whitebeard was the wsm
you think luffy would stop where he is?
luffy would also fail if he wasnt strong enough
Not secondary or less important.