Break Week What do you value most in a character?

[GUI VI]

• One Piece has an infinity of characters and consequently a huge amount of fandoms for these characters (just look at the Fanclubs section).

• But I find that even though most of these characters aren't as developed or don't appear as much, they still have a lot of fans for some reason.

• So that's why I leave the following question: What else do you consider in a character (specifically from One Piece)?

• I know that many will say: "of course it's the development that counts the most", but it's not always the development that counts the most.

• Many times the author does not need to millimetrically develop the arc, the journey, or the drama of a character for it to be interesting.

• Many times a character can be good simply for being charismatic:

• Or have a cool design:

• Or be a good Power Level character:

• Or........even through Fanservice:

•And of course, for being well developed:

(Yeah, i think Sanji is a well developed character)

• Well, I think you already understand lol.

Now, answer: What do you value most in a character?

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[BangOO🍅]

• One Piece has an infinity of characters and consequently a huge amount of fandoms for these characters (just look at the Fanclubs section).

• But I find that even though most of these characters aren't as developed or don't appear as much, they still have a lot of fans for some reason.

• So that's why I leave the following question: What else do you consider in a character (specifically from One Piece)?

• I know that many will say: "of course it's the development that counts the most", but it's not always the development that counts the most.

• Many times the author does not need to millimetrically develop the arc, the journey, or the drama of a character for it to be interesting.

• Many times a character can be good simply for being charismatic:

• Or have a cool design:

• Or be a good Power Level character:

• Or........even through Fanservice:

•And of course, for being well developed:

(Yeah, i think Sanji is a well developed character)

• Well, I think you already understand lol.

Now, answer: What do you value most in a character?

Spoiler: Tags

@The @AL sama @Jiihad @Uncle Van @HA001 OF THE RAIN @Saint Ethanbaron V TokOO Slugma @Shepherd Jew Peter @Shimotsuki Ghostly @Herrera95 @gz89 @Warchief Sanji D Goat @Admiral Maynard @EmperorKinyagi @Mr. Reloaded @Kerkovian @Kurozumi Bepo @Reborn @Sir Yasheen @ConquistadoR @MonochromeYoru @CoC: Color of Clowns @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @BangOO🍅 @Shiroyru @Blother Fertitta @Nekomamushi @Satoru Gojo @Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @BigAmmi @SkySanji @Agni Kaios @pg13 @Don Diego @BillSlipton @Fleet Leader Fenaker @Luffy is the mc @notAfanboy @MonsterKaido @RayanOO @OGshine @Rukusho @Blazing Lion @Vanlax @Nikuzi @uyuu @Murilo @zenox @Peppercore @Lor D. Coast @CoC: Color of Clowns

Well developed and his backstory is so good.

Not only that, Oda is still hiding some of Sanji's mysteries especially about Sora and how he got Diable Jambe even after Lunarian race got introduced.

And dont forget Imu wants to recreate Mother Flame and Sanji got Flames from his Mother (probably)

 

[GUI VI]

Well developed and his backstory is so good.

Not only that, Oda is still hiding some of Sanji's mysteries especially about Sora and how he got Diable Jambe even after Lunarian race got introduced.

And dont forget Imu wants to recreate Mother Flame and Sanji got Flames from his Mother (probably)

This is not the question of the thread.

 

[gz89]

1 - Design
2 - Charisma
3 - Powerlevel
4 - Development

I hate fanservice.

 

[BangOO🍅]

This is not the question of the thread.

I did answer in the first sentence

 

[Toryu]

Charisma or development.

Bon Clay is good example, he is weak, his design is not attractive and he has no fan service.

It's his charisma and development in IP that make him one of my favorites.

On the other extreme I like Mihawk, he has miniscule development and no charisma, but he has a amazing design and power level.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Charisma, design and development are the most important things for me.

I especially like it when Oda gives development to characters who don't need to change to serve their proper role in the story. Like, Mihawk didn't need his relationship with Zoro to change, Sengoku didn't need to become a chiller guy compared to his pre time skip personality

Power levels and fanservice suck, they've never made me like a character.

 

[uyuu]

- having a solid value / roots (good or evil), and consistently trying to stand by it.

- recognize mistake/weakness in one's own perspective, thus trying to create a solution / face the problem either using his own value / roots or some acquired, new perspective.

- have solid, defining moment/s that signifies character growth and finally integrity/ stability / depth.

 

[Embers Kaios]

Development and Charisma for sure

the others come after that

 

[Blother Fertitta]

I can’t say one thing is more important than another, but if I were to sum up the value/worth of a character it would be the future promise or existing presence they bring to the table. Power level plays a role, but each character has their individual strength.

For example my favorites just to mention are Luffy/Zoro (they belong in the same category in my eyes), Akainu/Kaido (same but also diff), and Vivi.

Luffy/Zoro promise us their role as the peak/ pinnacle of a practice. For Luffy, piracy and Zoro swordsmanship. Their futures are very bright and we can expect significant development with them as we progress. (Does not have to be power level only, obviously). I respect the grind, hustle, and ambition to get to the stage of being Number 1.

Akainu/Kaido, both are the strongest forces of nature in their established organizations. They are behemoths. Kaido’s presence in Wano was a deterrent for many pirates seeking the One Piece yet his strength was the key to unleash Joyboy onto the World. Same but different can be said for Akainu, a Monolith who’s existence is to be the ironclad opposition and fist of Justice and Might for the Marines and World Government Alike, and eventually he will be the test to establish Joyboy as the messianic role he’s supposed to be globally.

And Vivi because of her strengths in diplomacy, politics, and leadership. She was the very individual to teach Joyboy about good leadership.

Good design also plays a decent role as well. Anyways thanks for the tag

 

[Embers Kaios]

I can’t say one thing is more important than another, but if I were to sum up the value/worth of a character it would be the future promise or existing presence they bring to the table. Power level plays a role, but each character has their individual strength.

For example my favorites just to mention are Luffy/Zoro (they belong in the same category in my eyes), Akainu/Kaido (same but also diff), and Vivi.

Luffy/Zoro promise us their role as the peak/ pinnacle of a practice. For Luffy, piracy and Zoro swordsmanship. Their futures are very bright and we can expect significant development with them as we progress. (Does not have to be power level only, obviously). I respect the grind, hustle, and ambition to get to the stage of being Number 1.

Akainu/Kaido, both are the strongest forces of nature in their established organizations. They are behemoths. Kaido’s presence in Wano was a deterrent for many pirates seeking the One Piece yet his strength was the key to unleash Joyboy onto the World. Same but different can be said for Akainu, a Monolith who’s existence is to be the ironclad opposition and fist of Justice and Might for the Marines and World Government Alike, and eventually he will be the test to establish Joyboy as the messianic role he’s supposed to be globally.

And Vivi because of her strengths in diplomacy, politics, and leadership. She was the very individual to teach Joyboy about good leadership.

Good design also plays a decent role as well. Anyways thanks for the tag

What about the blonde?

 

[AL sama]

its a mixed bag of the things you mentioned and some others too cause the thing I value the most is how well a character is written in general

 

[Blother Fertitta]

What about the blonde?

Sanji holds zero future promise, has virtually no special skills, simps half the time, the other half performs in a mediocre manner against comparable mediocre opponents. Has absolutely no presence as a character in the story (relies on daddy’s cum to lend him a boost and then the hypocrite actively shits on the same powers whilst using them). He holds no strengths in any capacity of his character. According to his maggot fanbase, his greatest character transformation is something as fucking boring as now he can ask his friends for help, which is utterly laughable in the grand scope of things. Every major arc he spins the roulette to see which female character fucks his ass up, and his Pretimeskip role in reverse espionage/stealth missions has been delegated to Law and Brook, which virtually makes him useless in the Post Skip (Just like the damsel bitch in distress he played throughout Whole Cake Island).

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

A well written or developed character is always good. But not always the case where there's some characters that are enjoyable without some deep writing into them.

Then charisma comes next, a character that draws the audience in and makes them like that certain character. Like I said above, there are some characters that can be enjoyable without fully developed. Charismatic characters falls in this category.

Power level is nice and all, but it's always been the secondary structure of the story, a trope that is supposed to be fun and entertaining for the fans.

Majority of Shounen is popular because of the fights. Some can be hidden gems without/barely fights (Dr. Stone is a good example of a successful Shounen series without fights due to how engaging the story is). The casts are funny and relatable too.

Fanservice is just a trope. It's gags that make audiences laugh/arouse/hype/etc. Nothing more, nothing less.

Then design dead last, you can't judge a character's writing based on how they look. That's just discriminating.

For a goofy series like One Piece, a lot of funny looking characters are actually well written (Bon Clay for example).

 

[Nikuzi]

Writing, Personality, and Attitude

It helps if I enjoy how they fight as well if the given character is a combatant

 

[Herrera95]

Says well develop and shows sanji

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

1. Development
2. Design
3. Charisma
4. Power Level
5. Fan Service

I don't really need fan service moments, those usually turn me off because it's the author spoon feeding the audience something instead of a natural step in the story. Power level is sort of important in shonen only because you need to be strong (relative to the struggle) to be relevant. You can get a few odd balls but there's not gonna be any Gedatsu fans out there, but there's tons of Bonclay or Daz Bones fans.

Design and development go hand in hand. A well designed character can evoke so much from me, it tells a story in and of itself. Someone like Nnoitra has a great design that represents his own hollowness and inner struggles, most significantly when he uses resureccion. He's shit almost everywhere else, but that design elevates him for me. But development is the standard, go to for 90% of people. No real need to explain why I like it.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I agree with how TAC listed it, basically.
I think a character should have a lot of personality and a good design, but I wouldn't mind a high power level as well.
This is why I love characters like Sabo and Whitebeard.
Both are powerful, with Sabo being YC1 (or arguably Admiral level, possibly? Some people argue that.) and Whitebeard being Yonko level (obviously) and Admiral after he had his heart attack in Marineford.
But they also have a lot of character and cool designs.
Sabo has both serious and goofy moments, and there's chapters where he goes from bickering with Koala to dropping lore bombs about Imu and the reverie. It's a good balance. He's also caring and incredibly focused, and actually thinks about things before doing them, most of the time.
Luffy doesn't do that, nor does Ace. It makes him different, but still great.
Whitebeard is a very beloved and well known character, I don't need to really explain him.
I really like that, despite him only really wanting a family to accompany him in his pirate life, he'll go through great lengths to protect that family and actually treat them like sons.
You can really see he was actually pissed beyond belief that Akainu killed Ace, even if he was simply doing his job and following his own beliefs when he killed him.
I also love how they use their abilities and that they don't try to overestimate their selves in fights.
Sabo sees the Gorosei and Im transform and only shoots a wave of fire at them, proceeding to haul ass immediately after that.
He doesn't stick around to fight them even when one of them stabs him and Cobra in the side, and leaves Cobra to sacrifice him self when he asks him to.
This is actually impressive, because he's meant to be a sort of replacement for Ace, though obviously different than him in some fields, and he still does the complete opposite of what Ace would do in those situations.
Ace would keep trying to take down Issho and the Gorosei, and probably end up captured or straight up dead.
Sabo isn't as deluded. He keeps a leveled head and understands that he's not strong enough to take on certain problems.
And Whitebeard is the same, but more persistent for a reason.
He admits that he can't be the strongest for ever, but of course that won't stop him should he really have to fight someone, like with Akainu.

 

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[BangOO🍅]

Says well develop and shows sanji

Because he is the "most" well develop and not to mention Oda might still hiding some of his mysteries through his mother (Sora).

You can put every Strawhat on the list but nobody will be near Sanji (maybe Robin)