Break Week Which Theory Is Worse; ZKK or SKA

Which is more delusional

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#43
I don't really think shanks or whitebeard would kill an admiral knowing how much it would throw off the balance of the world. Believe me if whitebeard wanted an admiral dead we'd have a dead admiral.
 
#44
The feck has Shanks got thematically or narratively over Luffy or Sabo?
A clash between Shanks and Akainu would be within reason, but even then I’d argue Shanks lacking enough relevancy to clash with the two main antagonists on the seas (Blackbeard & Akainu), but a straight up defeat of Akainu sounds batshit crazy

The marines are the biggest and strongest faction, currently ruling the seas, a faction Oda has been building up arc after arc since chapter 2. Sakazuki as the current Fleet Admiral is the most powerful man in the New World, and when it comes to individual strength he is the only character to properly defeat a top tier, and not any top tier but Garp’s protege himself. Ever since he has lead the marines to become the strongest they’ve ever been.
This man is the only one to scar the main character, break his will and kill one of his loved ones

But Shanks will defeat him because Midd will obviously defeat Ryokugyu
:kaidowhat::kailaugh:
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#45
There are only 3 people who has things going on for them to beat Akainu


1) Luffy - Akainu is the only antagonist who mentally broke him along with giving him perma scar


Akainu as an antagonist deserves to go down to Luffy more so in a manga which doesn't do justice with side characters fighting each other.

2) Sabo - Him being Luffy's brother doesn't work because same argument can be raised for Luffy and with more substance as Luffy saw Akainu making a donut out of Ace right in front of him.

Only thing going for Sabo is him having Mera Mera no mi otherwise Sabo vs Akainu has no basis - no substance

3) Dragon - it might happen if Akainu and Dragon share some past but I really doubt it as Dragon is going after WG so him taking on Holy knight makes more sense.



So, it has to be luffy (most likely) or Sabo (if Oda is high)



And, as far as other admirals are concerned then I don't think fuji is going down. He is good marine.

Ryu, kizaru and if another one comes up will go down to SHs and not to Kidd and law
 
#46
A clash between Shanks and Akainu would be within reason, but even then I’d argue Shanks lacking enough relevance to clash with the two main antagonists on the seas (Blackbeard & Akainu), but a straight up defeat of Akainu sounds batshit crazy

The marines are the biggest and strongest faction, currently ruling the seas, a faction Oda has been building up arc after arc since chapter 2. Sakazuki as the current Fleet Admiral is the most powerful man in the New World, and when it comes to individual strength he is the only character to properly defeat a top tier, and not any top tier but Garp’s protege himself. Ever since he has lead the marines to become the strongest they’ve ever been.
This man is the only one to scar the main character, break his will and kill one of his loved ones

But Shanks will defeat him because Midd will obviously defeat Ryokugyu
:kaidowhat::kailaugh:
The only main antagonist Shanks has any narrative reason to fight is Blackbeard. Shanks has been whinging about Blackbeard for what feels like 700 chapters now. Lol.
 
#47
Bino & Ndule are reading Supernova Piece.

- Mid/Law vs Ryo/Fuji
- Shanks/Teach vs Akainu/Aokiji
- SHs vs CG = Davy Back Fight


Idk whats next, maybe Captain Kidd ends up as the PK ? :specialmeh:
Find the place I'm saying Akainu and Kuzan vs Shanks and Teach

Who the hell saying Kid becomes PK?
Zoro fans are really something
Stop mentioning me if you got nothing to say
 
#50
You did say that and you just said it again.

If they don't have any history with each other then they have no narrative reason to fight each other.
Luffy, kid, and law don’t have deep connections to kizaru, ryokugyu, or fujitora
That doesn’t mean a narrative can’t be made for them to fight
gotta give it to the ZKK peddlers, at least they gave way more narratively compelling arguments than "making moves". Lol.

Also, why are Blackbeard, Kidd and Law going to fight Admirals? Moreover, why does them fighting Admirals automatically mean Shanks is going to?
My whole basis for shanks vs akainu is the other potential matchups. Never claimed it was for more complex and hidden meanings

I’ve already said why I think so I’m my first post here
Shanks doesn't need to fight any Admiral full stop. What are they doing that puts them in Shanks way? What have they done that would make a fight with Shanks narratively fulfilling?

Luffy has Akainu gutting his brother and a potentially thematic showdown of Luffy's idealistic freedom vs Akainu's brutal totalitarianism.

The Marines are enforcers for the World Government and again, there could be something between Sabo's/Dragon's ideals and Akainu's. Also Sabo avenging Ace.

The feck has Shanks got thematically or narratively over Luffy or Sabo?
Does he absolutely need to? No
Will he? I think there’s a good possibility
pirates and marines are enemies. Marines fight pirates. The marines might fight shanks. If akainu starts making big moves it will likely be against emperors and not some no named random crew in the grand line


Yes I saw akainu kill ace

Thematically idk
Luffy has bigger fish to fight than akainu namely imu
Sabo doesn’t need to fight akainu he should focus on his goal as a revolutionary aka the world government not the marines
 
#51
Crazy that people that not only thought zoro was going to beat/kill kaido in that last arc but still thought he’d be able to solo kizaru this arc act like they got any space to talk shit
:choppawhat:
:suresure:
They have no shame at all
The same people who spent months and years talking about
  • Zoro vs Jack
  • Zoro vs Sanji happening after wci
  • Zoro will kill Kaido
  • Zoro will beat Kizaru this arc
  • Zoro is top tier whenever he gets a PU/feats
Are talking like they know one piece
How could they speak when they can't even see that Zoro will never be that important as they wish
 
#54
People are forgetting that Imu, Figarland and Gorosei + knights are the endgame main villains of final war

It's not Navy like it was in Marineford arc

Oda is taking out 3B+ class fighters against other 3B+ class fighters
Garp fell to Kuzan
Kid fell to Shanks
Law fell to Teach
Kizaru will fall to Luffy

GB and Fuji may fall to Kid and Law later on before laught tale arc
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#55
Sure
Like your Zkk headcanons? Zoro is top tier?
Mihawk top 1? Zoro will fight Kizaru as main fight?

:kayneshrug:
We were wrong about zkk but atleast we had some decent arguments.


Mihawk being above shanks is based on title which is Cannon

Zoro vs kizaru fighting is a wish and we as fans wish so.... what's wrong with it?
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Tbf @JoNdule only wild take is Linlin being top tier
:kayneshrug:
Mihawk is YC level

Admirals are Yc level

Katakuri wank

He used to have such takes
 
#56
How y’all gonna claim and pretend dragon vs akainu has a good chance of happening when dragon wants nothing to do with the marines and had nothing to do with ace

:sanmoji:
But me thinking shanks and akainu could fight is too far and just as bad as the years of dumbasses acting like zoro killing kaido and being the hero of wano was a fact
At least I’m just a singular dumbass
:kayneshrug:
 
#57
We were wrong about zkk but atleast we had some decent arguments.


Mihawk being above shanks is based on title which is Cannon

Zoro vs kizaru fighting is a wish and we as fans wish so.... what's wrong with it?
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Mihawk is YC level

Admirals are Yc level

Katakuri wank

He used to have such takes
I don't spend years wishing Katakuri is the MC and will take down the main villains of an arc over Luffy
Nor do I claim katakuri is top 1-5

Anyone who believed Zkk shouldn't be having opinions on One Piece discussions,
You guys proved that you don't understand one piece at all
It's just about your agendas
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#58
I don't spend years wishing Katakuri is the MC and will take down the main villains of an arc over Luffy
Nor do I claim katakuri is top 1-5

Anyone who believed Zkk shouldn't be having opinions on One Piece discussions,
You guys proved that you don't understand one piece at all
It's just about your agendas
Says the person who is arguing Mihawk is yc level since MF - nearly a decade until proven wrong by oda himself.🤷
 
#60
Find the place I'm saying Akainu and Kuzan vs Shanks and Teach

Who the hell saying Kid becomes PK?
Zoro fans are really something
Stop mentioning me if you got nothing to say
I meant that your delusions are close to each, doesnt mean you agree on everything.


Also you dare to mock others when you have said things like this.
Even if Zoro solo, Zoro will be pushed to extreme diff by Hybrid Jack.
  • Zoro vs Sanji happening after wci
  • Zoro will kill Kaido
  • Zoro will beat Kizaru this arc
  • Zoro is top tier whenever he gets a PU/feats
Zoro v Sanji was a random speculation from some readers, nothing serious.
ZKK was delusional.
Majority of Zoro fans never said that he will beat him.
Zoro is indeed close to become top tier. You are the one talking about ACoC = mightiest characters.
 
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