Questions & Mysteries Why OP's characters like to throw away a fighting tactic that works

which one do you prefer?


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#1
Katakuri's trident is so effective against Luffy, yet he throw it away
Luffy and Law swap's tactic is so effective against Doflamingo, yet it was done a single time
Hakai is so effective and cause Zoro near death, yet it was done a single time
Ceasar oxygen removal is so effective against everyone, yet he stopped using it

If the antagonist is persistent on effective fighting style, it will be most likely just for Luffy to copy it (Except Luffy vs Cracker)

At the same time, if you look at other mangas like Jujutsu, HxH, or any others, the character will persist on working strategy until the opponent figures thing out. This is definitely not the case for One Piece.

Which one do you like more? see poll.
 
#4
Katakuri's trident is so effective against Luffy, yet he throw it away
Luffy and Law swap's tactic is so effective against Doflamingo, yet it was done a single time
Hakai is so effective and cause Zoro near death, yet it was done a single time
Ceasar oxygen removal is so effective against everyone, yet he stopped using it

If the antagonist is persistent on effective fighting style, it will be most likely just for Luffy to copy it (Except Luffy vs Cracker)

At the same time, if you look at other mangas like Jujutsu, HxH, or any others, the character will persist on working strategy until the opponent figures thing out. This is definitely not the case for One Piece.

Which one do you like more? see poll.
Trident is sharper than a fist but it can only be used in little variation. A stab with long preparation stance that can be telegraph-read by the enemy much easier than punches especially of Katakuri's calibre, a slash which is only effective if you measure the range right and also become a hindrance instead if the enemy can sidestep first and close the range and bring the fight into CQC in which the spear becomes a disadvantage due to its edge placed so distant after the handle, etc. Compared to the portal mochis that are close to G4's attacks in terms of power? Awakening which is able to trap and suffocate? Gattling mochi punches which is more maneuverable than G2 and much faster due to more amount of arms Kata can generate? No i dont agree, Kata's trident is damaging but the attacks need way more preparation, calculation etc, while with his fists Kata is so much more versatile. Heck he can release a cannon bullet and become a sharp thorned donut wheel with extreme speed, no trident can beat that.

The same case with Hakai and Luffy-Law swap imo, if it's more effective, the enemy will use it as the later attacks. Meaning it's always the later attacks that have more power and destruction compared to the earlier.
 
#6
Who says Mogura is more "effective". Katakuri was literally shocked that it managed to hit Luffy, despite being able to easily tag him with his other hits.
The more lethal your attacks, the stronger the intent, the easier to sense with CoO, hence why pre-TS Luffy unlocked CoO against Mihawk.

Mogura is more effective if it hits, but it is very much harder to hit, not only due to the above effect, but because Katakuri can sprout dozens of fists to hit from range.
 
#10
The only thing that bothered me out of this one was Caesars oxygen attack. It was brilliant. But even though he is a scientist he is unfortunately also dumb at the same time.

Also IIRC Luffy got him from quite far away with his elephant something, maybe it doesn't reach that far to be used. Would have to reread.
 
#11
Because characters are not robots without a personality, they have their pride, arrogance, feats, etc.

Caesar used the oxygen stuff in the second round vs Luffy, but he didnt with BM pirates since they overwhelmed him, he knows how strong they are and the situation is much more than he can handle, he is not a fighter with a strong will, so no wonder he had his knees "shaking".

Katakuri only could hit Luffy when his sister interfered. So it wasn't that effective at all lol.

BM and Kaido won't team up at each second based on how they are. That was only some fanservice for Zoro, that's all. THey are too individualistic people and they have a lot of confidence in their strength.

Law and Luffy's tactic was only good as a surprise attack. A second one won't be a surprise anymore lol.
And against Kaido and BM, well, here author wanted to wank his MC and Zoro, so no wonder.
 
#12
I remember Caesar using his oxygen removal attack again at some point, but Luffy extending his neck to breathe anyway, so the attack probably didn't have that much range.
 
#14
Katakuri's trident is so effective against Luffy, yet he throw it away
Luffy and Law swap's tactic is so effective against Doflamingo, yet it was done a single time
Hakai is so effective and cause Zoro near death, yet it was done a single time
Ceasar oxygen removal is so effective against everyone, yet he stopped using it

If the antagonist is persistent on effective fighting style, it will be most likely just for Luffy to copy it (Except Luffy vs Cracker)

At the same time, if you look at other mangas like Jujutsu, HxH, or any others, the character will persist on working strategy until the opponent figures thing out. This is definitely not the case for One Piece.

Which one do you like more? see poll.
There are so many manga where characters don't persist with something constantly... those manga creators get closer to the spirit of actual fighting than trying to go straightforward on some Napoleon/Street Fighter shit.

Actually fighting means landing something at all is always better than trying to land something you think is good or worse, going to the well and getting read. Any coach will tell you that every counter has a counter. Fundamentals yes, spam no.

As for OP... Mogura wasn't effective. He didn't land shit until his little sister helped, and by then it had become tainted with her stench even if it could be successful without her help.

Law specifically says that they played the swap card out because Doflamingo is a guy who specifically tells him not to be repetitive. Law knows that Doflamingo knows his shit, and Luffy isn't some boring ass spammer anyway.

Hakai, meanwhile, was tailor made for Law to teleport behind and put his sword in a butthole. The biggest, slowest attack is never one to spam unless the opponent has zero mobility.
:kata:
 
#15
The only time that Katakuri managed to hit Luffy with Mogura was when Flanpe hit him with her needle, before that they were fighting for hours without him being able to land a single hit with his trident on Luffy.
He literally complained that Luffy was dodging his attacks too much while using Mogura.
 
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