Future Events Will Oda ruin Dragon next?

[Monkey D Theories]

Oda has a long standing record of ruining characters he set up in the past. First smoker, then big mom, then Kid. And those are only the few I can think off the top of my head.

I think the next character to add to that list will be Dragon. Dragon is Luffy's father, so you would think that he would play some sort of mentor-like role to Luffy, in some capacity. The only problem with that is, however, that we're 1000+ chapters into the series, Luffy is nearly as strong as kaido, and post wano, he will nearly be pirate king.

Sure, maybe dragon could help luffy in some capacity in the final war, but at this point, Dragon being Luffy's father is effectively pointless. There's nothing dragon can teach Luffy, and there's seemingly nothing Luffy wants from dragon as well. He doesn't give a shit about Dragon, except for maybe the fact that Sabo cares for him.

With smoker and Kid, you see the reoccurring theme of characters who should have faced off against luffy, but by the time they met Luffy, Luffy was already far stronger than them. And I can't help but see the same thing with Dragon.

There was a place for Dragon meeting Luffy to be impactful. And that place was 500 chapters ago when Ace died. Wow, Luffy suffered the most traumatic moment of his life, surely Dragon could do something to help him out. Surely he could at least let luffy know he still has a living brother. Nope, lmao!

But now, chances are, Dragon is going to come and beg Luffy to save Sabo and Luffy is going to shove his finger in his nose and say Nika; that will be the fateful meeting that took 1000 chapters for Oda to deliver on.

 

[JoNdule]

Oda has a long standing record of ruining characters he set up in the past. First smoker, then big mom, then Kid. And those are only the few I can think off the top of my head.

I think the next character to add to that list will be Dragon. Dragon is Luffy's father, so you would think that he would play some sort of mentor-like role to Luffy, in some capacity. The only problem with that is, however, that we're 1000+ chapters into the series, Luffy is nearly as strong as kaido, and post wano, he will nearly be pirate king.

Sure, maybe dragon could help luffy in some capacity in the final war, but at this point, Dragon being Luffy's father is effectively pointless. There's nothing dragon can teach Luffy, and there's seemingly nothing Luffy wants from dragon as well. He doesn't give a shit about Dragon, except for maybe the fact that Sabo cares for him.

With smoker and Kid, you see the reoccurring theme of characters who should have faced off against luffy, but by the time they met Luffy, Luffy was already far stronger than them. And I can't help but see the same thing with Dragon.

There was a place for Dragon meeting Luffy to be impactful. And that place was 500 chapters ago when Ace died. Wow, Luffy suffered the most traumatic moment of his life, surely Dragon could do something to help him out. Surely he could at least let luffy know he still has a living brother. Nope, lmao!

But now, chances are, Dragon is going to come and beg Luffy to save Sabo and Luffy is going to shove his finger in his nose and say Nika; that will be the fateful meeting that took 1000 chapters for Oda to deliver on.

Oda missed the chance big time to not make luffy meet his dad before chapter 800 even

 

[lee33]

The fact that it has been 1000+ chapters and Dragon hasn't done anything should give off alarm bells. And it isn't just Dragon, also Shanks and Blackbeard. Oda does not know what his priorities are. All he has to do is give these characters about 10 chapters each to develop them. 10 chapters isn't a lot at all and yet he refuses to it.... why, I have no idea.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Well,Dragon helped Luffy in two occasions. At Logue Town and in Sabaody trough Kuma. Maybe there will be a third time,and this time will meet?

 

[Finalbeta]

I think he probably won't as long as he will lend him a badass but consistent enough attitude, power level why not and a major fight :cheers:

 

[Cherry Hilk]

None of the characters you listed has been ruined. You’re just whining because things didn’t go the way you wanted…

 

[AverageNamiEnjoyer]

What character does dragon have to ruin it.

 

[Punk Rotten]

People love to complain about how things don’t go their way in the story. There’s one thing to point out criticisms, and another to declare characters are ruined lol

 

[Roo]

He has already ruined his mystique post ts

 

[Xlaw]

Honestly 1k chapters and still no major progress for his plot is really worst...
U can't expect everything to sum up in the end .

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Oda didn't ruin Smoker, he didn't ruin Big Mom either. You could argue he ruined Kidd based of expectations from his pre time skip version but when Oda chose to make the straw hats train during 2 years, it was obvious that there will be a difference between Luffy and the other SN after the TS.

 

[Dark-Abel]

I think the biggest problem with Dragon and Shanks showing up only now, is that Luffy is just as strong or even stronger than them.
So they will never live up to the hype.

 

[Usopp Haoshoku Haki]

Will you stop whining next?

 

[Mackiss]

As i always said

Most characters are good only before we know them

Oda is extremely good at hype, teasing and build-up but terrible on payoff

 

[Finalbeta]

I warmly hope Dragon will take on a powerful opponent or else his hype will presumably inevitable fall down

 

[kumae]

He is luffy's father how oda is going to ruin him?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think the biggest problem with Dragon and Shanks showing up only now, is that Luffy is just as strong or even stronger than them.
So they will never live up to the hype.

I think shanks might, just because there seems to be more to him than meets the eye

but Dragon is 100% going to be a cheerleader.

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it was obvious that there will be a difference between Luffy and the other SN after the TS.

well here's the issue with this

Luffy had conflicts with other characters that basically had no payoff since by the time Luffy met them in the new world, he was already much stronger than them. Kid is honestly a lesser example of this, he was only introduced in sabaody and was mostly nonexistent for most of the pre-skip.

Smoker is the biggest victim of this. He was a long running rival of Luffy's since east blue. With haki, Luffy finally had a chance to have a showdown with him. In literally any other shonen manga, this would have probably happened. But Oda made him weaker than Law, meaning there's not a chance in hell he will ever get his showdown with Luffy.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Oda effectively writes smoker off the manga(which tbh he basically has) and instead focuses on the admirals when the marines have their arc.

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The fact that it has been 1000+ chapters and Dragon hasn't done anything should give off alarm bells. And it isn't just Dragon, also Shanks and Blackbeard. Oda does not know what his priorities are. All he has to do is give these characters about 10 chapters each to develop them. 10 chapters isn't a lot at all and yet he refuses to it.... why, I have no idea.

You know why. Because it drives the story. Oda introduces a bunch of cool characters that fans get engrossed with and then just ignores them for hundreds of chapters with the promise that eventually we will get there.

This is why Oda can't have Shanks or Dragon do anything, because he knows that if they were actually involved in the story, he wouldn't be able to stretch one piece for 1000+ chapters. He knows that fans will wait for years, buying into the promise that Oda has "something big" planned for these characters.

I just don't believe that anymore. He butchered Luffy vs Kaido and he butchered Kid and Law vs Big Mom. He had a decade to come up with satisfying endings to the yonko, and he just didn't.

So why have faith that he has anything big planned out for Dragon, shanks, mihawk, ect? He clearly writes a large amount of OP as he goes. The best I can hope for dragon is that he'll have a cool backstory and maybe we might get a fight between him and Garp. But Oda murdered a lot of potential he had for Dragon by having him do literally nothing for 1000+ chapters, with Luffy only meeting him once he's stronger than him.

 

[BlackLegFring]

I certainly hope not.

 

[Xione]

Oda has a long standing record of ruining characters he set up in the past. First smoker, then big mom, then Kid. And those are only the few I can think off the top of my head.

I think the next character to add to that list will be Dragon. Dragon is Luffy's father, so you would think that he would play some sort of mentor-like role to Luffy, in some capacity. The only problem with that is, however, that we're 1000+ chapters into the series, Luffy is nearly as strong as kaido, and post wano, he will nearly be pirate king.

Sure, maybe dragon could help luffy in some capacity in the final war, but at this point, Dragon being Luffy's father is effectively pointless. There's nothing dragon can teach Luffy, and there's seemingly nothing Luffy wants from dragon as well. He doesn't give a shit about Dragon, except for maybe the fact that Sabo cares for him.

With smoker and Kid, you see the reoccurring theme of characters who should have faced off against luffy, but by the time they met Luffy, Luffy was already far stronger than them. And I can't help but see the same thing with Dragon.

There was a place for Dragon meeting Luffy to be impactful. And that place was 500 chapters ago when Ace died. Wow, Luffy suffered the most traumatic moment of his life, surely Dragon could do something to help him out. Surely he could at least let luffy know he still has a living brother. Nope, lmao!

But now, chances are, Dragon is going to come and beg Luffy to save Sabo and Luffy is going to shove his finger in his nose and say Nika; that will be the fateful meeting that took 1000 chapters for Oda to deliver on.

1st. Smoker isn't ruined. Y'all need to stop this non-sensical shit about Smoker being ruined cause he took Ls, he needed those Ls considering he went through pre-Ts without a challenge.

2nd. Kid isn't ruined he's perfectly fine and is the same as he was before.


3rd. Why would anyone think Dragon needs to play a mentor-like role to Luffy in the series? Has Dragon himself ever implied that? He's only mentioned meeting Luffy, and saying Luffy's actions are whats needed to make people question the world. You're also equating he doesn't give a shit about Dragon right now, with him not ever giving a shit about Dragon. There's plenty of good ways to still write him caring about Dragon even just within 1 arc. However, their meeting has nothing to do with whether Luffy cares about him or not. It's about Dragon and what he has in mind when it comes to Luffy.

"There was a place for Dragon meeting Luffy to be impactful.... when Ace died"... impactful? Sure. The most impactful? No. The impactful would be their meeting when Luffy becomes an entity on par with Dragon as the Pirate King. Which is also what Oda is more than likely building towards. Especially as Robin is still the light of the revolution and has a role to play for the RA. And while the RA have only declared formal war on the CD rather than actually moved out their armies and forces against them. Clearly waiting on something.

The whole coming to Luffy to save Sabo, was just a weird ass unrealistic scenario, idk how you even thought that up bruh lol. If Sabo had gotten captured, he would've done something on his own, coming to Luffy isn't something he'd ever do.

This is why Oda can't have Shanks or Dragon do anything,

Don't bring up Shanks and Dragon like they're interchangeable lol. There's a difference in not doing anything in the story vs not doing anything on panel. Dragon has actively been doing things throughout every major step of the story, they have simply not been on panel. Same is not the case for Shanks.

-> Igniting the revolution at Vira, around when Luffy takes down Arlong
-> Saving Luffy and co at Loguetown
-> Taking down WG countries in South & north blue around the time Luffy beat on Water 7.
-> Freeing thousands of slave by freeing a 700 year old Celestial Dragon ran country, Tequila Wolf.
-> Saving Nico Robin, having one of his underlings Ivankov train up Sanji, etc.
-> Taking over more countries after Doffy's fall, where they also succeeded in the mission he sent Sabo and co for regarding the weapons.
-> Had two enemies that were coming at him fight each other instead: Cp0+ marines vs BBP
-> Sent four his dudes to Mariejois to free Kuma and declare war.. mission accomplished.
-> Now they're causing more revolutions throughout World Government countries around the world



I'm not sure how you can say the man hasn't done anything, and compare him to Mihawk & Shanks.. like bruh what?

 

[Water1415]

Oda has a long standing record of ruining characters he set up in the past. First smoker, then big mom, then Kid. And those are only the few I can think off the top of my head.

I think the next character to add to that list will be Dragon. Dragon is Luffy's father, so you would think that he would play some sort of mentor-like role to Luffy, in some capacity. The only problem with that is, however, that we're 1000+ chapters into the series, Luffy is nearly as strong as kaido, and post wano, he will nearly be pirate king.

Sure, maybe dragon could help luffy in some capacity in the final war, but at this point, Dragon being Luffy's father is effectively pointless. There's nothing dragon can teach Luffy, and there's seemingly nothing Luffy wants from dragon as well. He doesn't give a shit about Dragon, except for maybe the fact that Sabo cares for him.

With smoker and Kid, you see the reoccurring theme of characters who should have faced off against luffy, but by the time they met Luffy, Luffy was already far stronger than them. And I can't help but see the same thing with Dragon.

There was a place for Dragon meeting Luffy to be impactful. And that place was 500 chapters ago when Ace died. Wow, Luffy suffered the most traumatic moment of his life, surely Dragon could do something to help him out. Surely he could at least let luffy know he still has a living brother. Nope, lmao!

But now, chances are, Dragon is going to come and beg Luffy to save Sabo and Luffy is going to shove his finger in his nose and say Nika; that will be the fateful meeting that took 1000 chapters for Oda to deliver on.

What is there to ruin?we know nothing about him