Chapter Discussion Will the Vinsmokes appear in Wano

Will the Vinsmokes appear in Wano ?


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#1
Already talked about this in another thread but I feel it deserves it's own thread , let me start by saying the Vinsmoke story line IS FAR from over ... Oda purposly didn't make it as the side family Sanji has to meet once and settle it and move on but instead gave them a history that's yet to be revealed


So why do I believe the Germa/Vinsmokes need to make a comeback ?


1 - Simply their history is rather important for the overall picture and the link to the WG ... this is a nation that ruled over an entire Sea 300 years ago under the name the "Germa Empire" and got defeated by someone (probably WG but it's still vague) and they are not able to set a foot on their homeland since then , and there's multiple references to 66 days maybe it was the length of the battle that they lost or something


Overall their history seems to be extremely important either in the WG plot or Revo plot later on


2 - Sanji's acceptance of his family , this has to happen just like when Sanji said to Momo "you declaring YOUR NAME was amazing" few chapters ago .. . Sanji has to do the same imo to fully move on from his family and he has to declare himself as "Vinsmoke Sanji" and while you could say he can do it without the Germa and Judge being present it feels like it would be more powerful if they were there ... Also Sanji uses the Raid Suit and he needs to accept that as well



3 - Judge has links to scientists all over One Piece and Queen seems to be one of them AND I still believe Judge has a lot more to give as a character mainly cause his story mainly revolve since he was born he was raised to take vengeance for his people and since young age he became a brilliant scientist that was willing to do anything to Make Germa Great Again (MGGA) and he went as far as to make scientific changes to his sons




And finally how would the Vinsmokes be in Wano ? well it's as simple as we left them to fight the Big Mom Pirates which was a lost fight and they 100% got captured and put in Mont'dor's book prison and Mont'dor is one of Big Mom sons that has been shown to be here in Wano

 
#4
10000000000% yes. Theyre coming back.

Reasons/Motives:-

- They still owe Sanji alot for saving their lives.

- Judge is probably rethinking his entire relationship with Sanji....and with his other sons as well.

- Big Mom is also in Wano, and Judge might develop some weaponary to get his revenge on her.

- Also Germa have nothing else left to do. They wanted Big Mom's allyship to reconquer the NorthBlue...without that they have nothing.

How it will happen:-


- Theres probably a tracker with Sanji's Raid Suit

When will it happen:-

- Second rematch against the Beast Pirates. The Beast Pirates will deffo win this time

What will they do:-

- Judge potentially helps Sanji fight King in the Sky....Garuda being his nickname. Plus he is fireproof so King's Wild Fire wont work

- Judge also will apologise to Sanji for what he's done. Then will see Sanji defeat King....and realise Sanji is his strongest son.

- The rest of them will fight Queen with Jinbe potentially. Reiju will counter Queen's poisons.

Aftermath:-

- After Luffy becomes Yonko, Vinsmokes ally under him and use his flag to reconquer the North Blue

- Judge says goodbye to Sanji and wishes him good luck.
 
#5
God I hope not.
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Wano is already too crowded.
I'd be fine with it if the BMP become relevant imthe next few chapters. By that point there are way too many villains and not enough protagonists to offset that.

We'd either need an additional set of allies (such as Germa, other Whitebeard Pirate members, or Sword) to really counter that overwhelming level of fighters.


Like I can 100% see top BMP members getting fought and defeated by when there are enough people around (Yamato v. Smoothie, Carrot/Wanda v. Perospero, Nami/Reiju v. Campote depending on her power, Yonji v. Daifuku, Ichiji v. Snack or something, idk).

Oda definitely hid designs of the BMP for a reason. It makes sense to bring them into the arc, but I do wonder how he'll counter them
 

Finalbeta

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#11
Yes I can see them showing up sooner or later, but now it is simply too soon.

Let's see what implications Queen's relationship will Germa will lend us, we might get a solid picture out of what's happening next.

I definitely feel like Germa is still alive in its entirety by the way.
 
#15
Judge coming to Wano? What for?
reading the post would help


God I hope not.
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Wano is already too crowded.

I feel like ppl that say this are a bit clueless of the situation , we're currently MASSIEVLY outnumbered in terms of quality fighters and we need all the help we get and Germa/Vinsmokes showing up make a lot of sense like it feels crowded cause its mostly enemies :


- Kaido / Big Mom
- King / Queen / Jack / Perospero / Smoothie
- Ulti / Page1 / WhosWho / Maria / Daifuku / Sasski / Hawkins (?) / Apoo (?)
- More Fighters that have Haki from both BMP , BP and Wano Samurais/Ninjas

vs

- Luffy / Marco / Kid
- Zoro / Sanji / Drake / Yamato / Law / Jinbei / Killer
- Nine Scabbards

you see how grossly unbalanced this battle is ? and it's taking all the Nine Scabbards to hold Kaido rn and it's expected more like Luffy , Kidd , Law and Zoro to join them up top to fight only 1 guy in this war

we need all help we can get
 
#19
Maybe at the end. Oda has too much to juggle here.
Dude still has 5 Numbers to show, at least 3 zoans to show off from the F6, virtually every hybrid/awakening, give panel presence to every strawhat and supernova, and potentially has to deal with an additional 5-10 notable Big Mom Pirates crew members joining if they manage to (Smoothie, Compote, Snack, Daifuku, Amande, Galette, Mont d'Or, etc)


Its just a ridiculous amount and thats not even all of it. Arc might not even end for another 60-80 chapters.
 
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