Questions & Mysteries Would BM warn against Kinemon with Oden's sword?

#1
The main reason Zoro can "tame" Enma is because he used Wado Ichimonji, made by the same person. But let's say the Scabbards also had weapons from this dude, and could "tame" it to the point where they can at least get a few hits in.



Would Big Mom warn against Kinemon using his master's blade?
 
#4
When Zoro choose to keep enma Kin'enom and the other scabbards present acted like Zoro was crazy for doing soo, wich implies all the scabbards where not good enough to tame enma.

If they are not good enough to tame it, means they cant use it to its potential. Soo the question answers itself.

BTW saying the main reason Zoro could tame enma is because of wado is disonest at best, stop lying and go read what the smith said again. Even in the translation you are using the word "QUICKLY" is present there.
 
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tengu says nothing of the sort
he just says it fits comfortably
in fact he says enma works like a cursed blade as in the weak cannot control it

as for kinemon

Dude, how many times do you throw out translations and get bodied? The term used is "najimu"

  1. to become familiar with or accustomed to something
There is no difference between the two translations. By "familiar" they mean handling. The French says "handling".

When Zoro choose to keep enma Kin'enom and the other scabbards present acted like Zoro was crazy for doing soo, wich implies all the scabbards where not good enough to tame enma.

If they are not good enough to tame it, means they cant use it to its potential. Soo the question answers itself.

BTW saying the main reason Zoro could tame enma is because of wado is disonest at best, stop lying and go read what the smith said again. Even in the translation you are using the word "QUICKLY" is present there.
It's not dishonest. It's literally the translation. Read ^. If Scabbards used a Kozaburo sword, they could handle it too.
 
#10
No Enma choose Zoro, Emna has Odens will, And it choose Zoro to carry that will. Kinemon was too weak.

Its the same when he picked sandai kitetso, the shop keeper said thats a cursed sword and that zoro shouldnt pick it up, that previous owners were harmed by the sword, But Zoro did pick it up and the sword accepted him.

When Zoro picked ryumas sword ryumas body gave it to him and said that the sword has chosen him, That was also part of shusui's will to be with Zoro. At that point the sword had a will and it knew that by having Zoro carry it, It will reach reach ryumas homeland. Thats why ryuma said that Zoro is worthy of carrying it.

And now we are seeing the same thing with enma, The scarbbards told him that he shouldnt pick it and that nobody was able to tame it, But Zoro was able to tame it, Thata because Zoro is strong enough to tame it, And the sword recognizes that, And because the sword realizes that by accepting Zoro as her owner it can fulfill her will, Odens will to cut kaido. In short oden choose Zoro to carry her previous owners will to cut down kaido
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Enma choose Zoro because hes worthy of being its owner and is strong enough to use it. Not kinamon and not any other scabbard or any other person but Zoro.

And guess what?
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Zoro will fulfil enmas will , odens will, and cut down that fucking fake dragon sardin fish and uncover the shades to show that behind that curtain was nothing more but a tuna fish that was never worthy of the great grandmaster

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No Enma choose Zoro, Emna has Odens will, And it choose Zoro to carry that will. Kinemon was too weak.

Its the same when he picked sandai kitetso, the shop keeper said thats a cursed sword and that zoro shouldnt pick it up, that previous owners were harmed by the sword, But Zoro did pick it up and the sword accepted him.

When Zoro picked ryumas sword ryumas body gave it to him and said that the sword has chosen him, That was also part of shusui's will to be with Zoro. At that point the sword had a will and it knew that by having Zoro carry it, It will reach reach ryumas homeland. Thats wht ryuma said that Zoro is worthy of carrying it.

And now we are seeing the same thing with enma, The scarbbards told him that he shouldnt pick it and that nobody was able to tame it, But Zoro was able to tame it, Thata because Zoro is strong enough to tame it, And the sword recognizes that, And because the sword realizes that by accepting Zoro as her owner it can fulfill her will, Odens will to cut kaido. In short oden choose Zoro to carry her previous owners will to cut down kaido
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Enma choose Zoro because hes worthy of being its owner and is strong enough to use it. Not kinamon and not any other scabbard or any other person but Zoro.

And guess what?
:beckmoji:

Zoro will fulfil enmas will , odens will, and cut down that fucking fake dragon sardin fish and uncover the shades to show that behind that curtain was nothing more but a tuna fish that was never worthy of the great grandmaster

:finally::finally::finally:
Kinemon already admitted inferiority towards Enma, the blade cannot be controlled by him.

So even if Kinemon used it, it would only be a hindrance for him.

Enma doesn’t have its own entity its using the users haki, meaning even if Kinemon had Enma his haki was still too weak to do anything to Kaido.
You people are laughable. Read the OP. Enma/Wado are made by the same guy. This is the scenario that Kinemon has already used a Kozaburo sword first.
 
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#13
The main reason Zoro can "tame" Enma is because he used Wado Ichimonji, made by the same person. But let's say the Scabbards also had weapons from this dude, and could "tame" it to the point where they can at least get a few hits in.



Would Big Mom warn against Kinemon using his master's blade?
Yes she would.

Linlin never said " dodge/watch out that attack isn't average "

Only a fanboy thinks BM warned about The attaci
 
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You people are laughable. Read the OP. Enma/Wado are made by the same guy. This is the scenario that Kinemon has already used a Kozaburo sword first.
You're the one whos need to start reading one piece, I think you missed the part about Swords accepting their owners
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You're the one whos need to start reading one piece, I think you missed the part about Swords accepting their owners
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O wait its sanjikun i forgot he reads a different type of one piece called "sanji piece" :gokulaugh:
 
#16
how does that negate anything
he trained with a solid sword by the same maker as a kid so that helps him tame enma a lot better than others would

what your freaking point.
implying as a kid
he was prob biting off more than he could chew.
You guys are squirming so hard right now. KUINA trained with that sword as a kid. Any of the Scabbards can use it.
 
#17
You people are laughable. Read the OP. Enma/Wado are made by the same guy. This is the scenario that Kinemon has already used a Kozaburo sword first.
My statement still stands ....

Kinemon doesn’t have the haki or strength to control Enma, if Kinemon is remaining at the same level he is at and simply used a Kozaburo blade in the past doesn’t change his haki pool or strength.
 

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#18
Dude, how many times do you throw out translations and get bodied? The term used is "najimu"

  1. to become familiar with or accustomed to something
There is no difference between the two translations. By "familiar" they mean handling. The French says "handling".



It's not dishonest. It's literally the translation. Read ^. If Scabbards used a Kozaburo sword, they could handle it too.
Lmfao where does he fucking say you TAMED it because of wado

FUCKING SHOW ME

HE LITERALLY SAYS THE WEAK CANNOT CONTROL IT
A NORMAL SWORDSMAN WOULD BE A HUSK

we have kinemon literally scared of it and warns zoro if it was HIM he wouldnt use it

familiarity is not grounds for taming the sword
 
#19
Lmfao where does he fucking say you TAMED it because of wado

FUCKING SHOW ME

HE LITERALLY SAYS THE WEAK CANNOT CONTROL IT
A NORMAL SWORDSMAN WOULD BE A HUSK

we have kinemon literally scared of it and warns zoro if it was HIM he wouldnt use it

familiarity is not grounds for taming the sword
He can show you, Just close your eyes and use your imagination to join his headcanon
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#20
when it comes down to it this argument reminds me of much of the discussion with oden scarring kaido with just enma
despite the fact he was a two sword style swordsman. so are they both magical blades?

the sword gets hype this chap
just like it did initially when hiyori mentioned it
doesnt take away from the fact zoro and oden are multiple sword users and their attacks with other swords would have a similar effect cause its still their ryou. perception of it rn is due in part because he is yet to master it. oden wasnt drained after his attack on kaido.

its the start of the fight
he needs to get used to that blade first in battle to the point where he is able to use the same amount of ryou he applies to enma to his other blades.
he wont continue to just attempt ittoryu attacks .
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You guys are squirming so hard right now. KUINA trained with that sword as a kid. Any of the Scabbards can use it.
and if they did as a kid
maybe they would be better at taming enma

oden had used that blade as a kid as well
and you certainly wont argue he was stronger than the scabbards at 8 would you?

so again
your point is null.
 
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