Speculations Zeff used to be in Rocks

Chrono

Aramaki-San
#1
Heres a theory about Zeff being in Rocks

1.) Firstly we know Zeff used to be in a famous Pirate Crew before making his own.

Pre- Stephen Paul Viz states Zeff used to cook for a Famous Pirate.

However Stephen Paul's translation shows that Zeff used to be a Cook in a famous Pirate Crew.

So the connotations obviously are Zeff used to cook for a famous pirate/was the cook of a famous pirate crew. Theres barely any famous Pirate Crews left to reveal...so if Oda were to ever reveal which pirate crew (which he likely wont) itd be Xebec.

2.) We know Zeff has gone to New World in search for the All Blue. He was first person to name drop the first-half of the Grandline as Paradise.

He knows the differences between either sides, thus he must have attempted to find the All Blue in the NW at some stage.

3.) We also know the Rocks Pirates all disbanded. So it would make sense that if Zeff was already in a pirate crew, the likeliest reason for him to make his own was because it disbanded.

4.) Zeff is 1 year younger than Linlin. Thus when she was 24 on Rocks Ship, Zeff wouldve been 23 and a rookie pirate cooking for Xebec. Zeff met Sanji 11 years ago....thus that 1 year he sailed the Grandline alone with his pirate crew was when he was 56.

And apparently he sailed the grandline unscathed with a fodder crew at the age of 56. No way a person could do something like this without prior experience.


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The biggest plot-hole however is how come Linlin didnt recognise him when checking Sanji's background ? Easy answer....she didnt check on Sanji's background. By now we know the type of person Big Mom is, and we know she doesnt care for these things and would let her crew handle it. Plus she also said she heard rumors that Sanji is a cook, thus she was just briefed a bit on Sanji's past...instead of herself doing the digging.


So yh Zeff could possibly have been Rocks D Xebecs personal cook and have joined his crew.
 
#5
Heres a theory about Zeff being in Rocks

1.) Firstly we know Zeff used to be in a famous Pirate Crew before making his own.

Pre- Stephen Paul Viz states Zeff used to cook for a Famous Pirate.

However Stephen Paul's translation shows that Zeff used to be a Cook in a famous Pirate Crew.

So the connotations obviously are Zeff used to cook for a famous pirate/was the cook of a famous pirate crew. Theres barely any famous Pirate Crews left to reveal...so if Oda were to ever reveal which pirate crew (which he likely wont) itd be Xebec.

2.) We know Zeff has gone to New World in search for the All Blue. He was first person to name drop the first-half of the Grandline as Paradise.

He knows the differences between either sides, thus he must have attempted to find the All Blue in the NW at some stage.

3.) We also know the Rocks Pirates all disbanded. So it would make sense that if Zeff was already in a pirate crew, the likeliest reason for him to make his own was because it disbanded.

4.) Zeff is 1 year younger than Linlin. Thus when she was 24 on Rocks Ship, Zeff wouldve been 23 and a rookie pirate cooking for Xebec. Zeff met Sanji 11 years ago....thus that 1 year he sailed the Grandline alone with his pirate crew was when he was 56.

And apparently he sailed the grandline unscathed with a fodder crew at the age of 56. No way a person could do something like this without prior experience.


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The biggest plot-hole however is how come Linlin didnt recognise him when checking Sanji's background ? Easy answer....she didnt check on Sanji's background. By now we know the type of person Big Mom is, and we know she doesnt care for these things and would let her crew handle it. Plus she also said she heard rumors that Sanji is a cook, thus she was just briefed a bit on Sanji's past...instead of herself doing the digging.


So yh Zeff could possibly have been Rocks D Xebecs personal cook and have joined his crew.
This would be a nice twist actually.I like this.Zeff being a new world veteran takes him into a new league.
 
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KonyaruIchi

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#7
We don't actually know how "famous" he really was, considering Don Krieg was considered "famous" in east blue and he'd get neg'd by Buggy with one arm tied behind the back. You'd think someone from Rocks wouldn't be as weak as Zeff was shown to be in early east blue, but then again powerscaling was really iffy back then, it could be cool if he was in Rocks but it seems unlikely
 
#9
So you are saying that a pirate, famous one, and a cook, who served on the crew of Rocks along with BM and her children, and we know how much BM loves food and would appreciate a good cook, would not be recognized by either BM or her children, even when they are said to have one of the best intelligence networks and have already found the said cook which means that they must have had the name and picture of the guy?
 

Chrono

Aramaki-San
#14
Oda would have already mentioned it the same way he did with Silver Axe, Captain John and Wang Zhi if this was the case.
Zeff isnt as famous as them. Remember this would be 23 year old rookie Zeff.

So you are saying that a pirate, famous one, and a cook, who served on the crew of Rocks along with BM and her children, and we know how much BM loves food and would appreciate a good cook, would not be recognized by either BM or her children, even when they are said to have one of the best intelligence networks and have already found the said cook which means that they must have had the name and picture of the guy?
Yh and Linlin only heard rumours about Sanji being a chef...clearly she herself didnt do the research and was just told the mere basics about Sanji's past. Whether they mentioned Zeff's name to her is pure speculation.
 
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Nika help us, Zeff fucked Big Mom. Anyway.

Great theory, I've always wondered why Oda was so cagey about Zeff's past. Zeff's story of starving with Sanji also slots in really well with Big Mom and Kaido's narrative focus on starvation. And, I was kind of memeing, but... how fucking funny would it be it Daifuku is actually Zeff's son, and technically Sanji's brother?

Calling it now: Big Mom is going to lose her shit when she finds out Sanji is Zeff's kid, apologize to him, and ruin Sanji's mind my telling him about how hot his Dad is.

All the years of simping led to this. Sanji will be traumatized, imagining Big Mom hold Zeff down and taking that, hot, throbbing, Red Leg all up in her Whole Cake Island.

Fuck it, I'm in, Big Mom fucks Zeff is the worst theory I've seen in years. Mind if I make a thread about it?
 
#19
Dr.Kureha , Kozaborou , Zeff , Shakky , Nyon Grandma , Robin's Father , Ussop Grandpa , and finally The Mysterious Samurai that met Corocus in a Cover Page are all in Rocks Crew.

And Garp fisted them so hard they shattered.

:finally::finally::finally::finally:

Joking ofc
 
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