One Piece Chapter 1003 : The Night Reflected on A Go Board

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Is this a serious question? Marineford Whitebeard negs him without even using his Devil Fruit.

Marineford Whitebeard is one of the most underrated characters in the entire series. I’m 100% confident that he defeats base Kaido and dragon Kaido at a high diff at worst.

Hybrid Kaido remains to be seen.
:seriously:
Kaido first tanks all of Whitebeard's offense
Then he one shots
 
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WB with bullet lvl durability
Oden is bullet level prime oden
MF whitebeard durablity>oden
Kaido first tanks all of Whitebeard's offense
Then he one shots
the narrator once again calling, Marine ford Whitbeard>Kaido the "All Powerful" Whitebeard kaido is not that

The WG is legit sweating from the mere fact of Whitebeard names
Theres a scan I have of the WG knowing kaidos and big mom alliance but not caring lol
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lightspeed>Future Sight
whitebeard could react to him but not touch him and thats without CoO
he high diffs kaido
 
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Just how durable is Usopp?
Just how many abilities is Oda gna keep giving Kaido?

I am starting to think Kaido might actually fall here. Act 4 would probably be a battle between the alliance and the CP. I also have this sneaky feeling Big Mom would betray Kaido.
Everyone in the community is waiting for Big Mom betraying Kaido moment

While

I'm alone waiting for the opposite, for Kaido to betray Big Mom Lmao
 
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Everyone in the community is waiting for Big Mom betraying Kaido moment

While

I'm alone waiting for the opposite, for Kaido to betray Big Mom Lmao
"Prometheus!? Napoleon!? We are supposed to..assasinate Kaidou...when the fight goes awry...so why did you...stab my neck!!"

"Because i told them to, Linlin."

"You!"

"...We can't do anything, Mama. He will eat us otherwise. His Awakening feeds on all elements, even souls."

"So this is...the end...hey Kaidou. Lil Bro...it's been fun..."

Something like that?
 
Kaido is CONSISTENTLY mentioning enma the blade and not zoro at all. And mentions oden in it
Kaido has been asking himself about ryou and remembering Oden ever since the start of the raid when the scabbards jumped him.

He sees Oden everywhere that's what PTSD does to people, lol. And he also doesn't know jack shit about inherited will and how enma works. But us, the readers, we do we have been told by Tenguyama Hitetsu and by Oden himself the fact that he wanted to pass on this will.
 
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If you know me and why I'm saying it or the pure fact that I'm a Zoro fan way more than I am a Sanji one, you'd know that is not the case.




Its very easy to get stuck in this assumption that the battle is *only* staying on the rooftop or that King will *only* be stuck under the dome with Marco.

Once you realize that characters can move and plotlines can potentially shift, then you'll understand what I'm talking about.

As a reader, I'm seeing signs that only the Strawhats will take on the beast pirates. Also as a reader, some people have started to understand that Marco vs King virtually does nothing for the growth of the crew or series. There is nothing meaningful about that fight when it comes to progress in the story. Like you might as well have had neither exist in the arc then, because there is no plot motivation for one defeating the other, nor is there any growth. Again, these are just my personal observations and are not at all right.

If you guys actually read my comments without the Zoro bias and thinking I'm attacking the character by "taking him away" from a Yonko fight, you'd understand what I'm actually trying to say.

Edit: I also literally gave another option that had nothing to do with Zoro vs King, and you guys still get offended if I even remotely mention it lmao
Some Zoro fans want Zoro vs King, so my contention with it has zero to do with which character they fight.

Zoro vs King does nothing for Zoro/Crew's growth. Zoro's main fight is Kaido. Zoro vs King would be an afterthought if it happens.
 
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"Prometheus!? Napoleon!? We are supposed to..assasinate Kaidou...when the fight goes awry...so why did you...stab my neck!!"

"Because i told them to, Linlin."

"You!"

"...We can't do anything, Mama. He will eat us otherwise. His Awakening feeds on all elements, even souls."

"So this is...the end...hey Kaidou. Lil Bro...it's been fun..."

Something like that?
LOL, nah
it will be something like:

- After Kaido and Big Mom demolish the supernova in this round
- While Big Mom is lowering her guard completely and maybe that will be around the time he shows her some of her poneglyphs LOL
- Kaido backstabs Big Mom

Big Mom: You bastard, we agreed we would do that after we take over the world!
Kaido: I have no need for you...your road poneglyph copy was in the posession of those kids (Strawhats)
Big Mom: I considered you as my little brother
Kaido: you were the only one with that thought

Blood splattered with him finishing his thrust and cutting her down

Few notes:
1- Oda showed Kaido having the personality of betraying his words too before when he broke his promise with Oden with the 5 years and leaving Wano... And also betrayed Orochi... and LASTLY, he's the big major bad guy of this arc, while Big Mom is secondary, so the logical action is making Kaido betray Big Mom and take her out of equation in logical way... while Big Mom betraying Kaido and weakening him will TAKE AWAY from Luffy/Zoro/and other supernova win over him... the credit will all go away to waste.... Anyway, just like Big Mom betray others, Kaido ALSO betray others, so it's not out of his character

2- Kaido already neglected to tell Big Mom about the secret entrance to Wano/Onigashima... and he STILL didn't do it which is why Smoothie and co still fighting waterfall LMAO.... if they are allies, he would have told her about the entrance

3- Big Mom is the only one calls him "brother" while Kaido never hinted he feels the same about her.... in fact, Big Mom looked OFFENDED for real when Kaido suggested that she is thinking about betraying him this soon, which tells me Kaido is preparing something of that shit against her ALREADY

4- Lastly, everyone in community as I stated seems to be so sure of Big Mom betraying Kaido.... and for me, that's a big sign that Oda MAY FLIP the script around... and make Kaido betray her especially because Kaido has all the above reasons above I mentioned already and because Oda set it up in a way that it can go BOTH WAYS... and Oda will only choose the route that will give MORE IMPACT on viewers....
 

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Right now, you have Marco taking on King and Queen at the same time. No matter how strong he is, he can't defeat two other Yonko Commanders on his own.
Isn't Sanji eventually going to face Queen.

This isn't even to mention that Jack is recovering at the moment, and will be back into this fight soon.
Yamato is fighting someone currently, and it's not one of the Tobi Roppo.

What about Luffy's proclamation about punching Jack in the face one day? Did Oda forget about that?
Luffy doesn't keep all his proclamations. He ran away from Mama after declaring he wouldn't run away again. Luffy punching an already beaten Jack is pointless for the story.
 
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LOL, nah
it will be something like:

- After Kaido and Big Mom demolish the supernova in this round
- While Big Mom is lowering her guard completely and maybe that will be around the time he shows her some of her poneglyphs LOL
- Kaido backstabs Big Mom

Big Mom: You bastard, we agreed we would do that after we take over the world!
Kaido: I have no need for you...your road poneglyph copy was in the posession of those kids (Strawhats)
Big Mom: I considered you as my little brother
Kaido: you were the only one with that thought

Blood splattered with him finishing his thrust and cutting her down

Few notes:
1- Oda showed Kaido having the personality of betraying his words too before when he broke his promise with Oden with the 5 years and leaving Wano... And also betrayed Orochi... and LASTLY, he's the big major bad guy of this arc, while Big Mom is secondary, so the logical action is making Kaido betray Big Mom and take her out of equation in logical way... while Big Mom betraying Kaido and weakening him will TAKE AWAY from Luffy/Zoro/and other supernova win over him... the credit will all go away to waste.... Anyway, just like Big Mom betray others, Kaido ALSO betray others, so it's not out of his character

2- Kaido already neglected to tell Big Mom about the secret entrance to Wano/Onigashima... and he STILL didn't do it which is why Smoothie and co still fighting waterfall LMAO.... if they are allies, he would have told her about the entrance

3- Big Mom is the only one calls him "brother" while Kaido never hinted he feels the same about her.... in fact, Big Mom looked OFFENDED for real when Kaido suggested that she is thinking about betraying him this soon, which tells me Kaido is preparing something of that shit against her ALREADY

4- Lastly, everyone in community as I stated seems to be so sure of Big Mom betraying Kaido.... and for me, that's a big sign that Oda MAY FLIP the script around... and make Kaido betray her especially because Kaido has all the above reasons above I mentioned already and because Oda set it up in a way that it can go BOTH WAYS... and Oda will only choose the route that will give MORE IMPACT on viewers....
Wow. The foundation is solid. But its way too good to be true lol, will Oda really reveal that thick plot this late in the arc where what left is just to show case powerups, badass poses and powerlevel feat competition?itll be cool if it happens though.
 

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1. Tatsumaki is a mid-high effort attack, g4 gattling is a near max effort attack, to compare them to one another is zoro wank. Dozens and dozens of ryuo enhanced G4 kong guns should do several multiples of the amounts of damage that tatsumaki.
Sorry, I don't subscribe to the belief that the effort Zoro and Luffy put behind their attacks should correspond to the damage.

Hiryuu Kaen was hyped to do by far the most damage of all SN attacks, and if was moderate effort.

2. Kaido instantly regenerated the slash and countered it with a superior attack while laughing.
  • Kaido didn't counter the attack, we see that it has already ended when Kaido recovers.
  • Kaido was laughing in joy that Zoro successfully neutralised his Tatsumaki

3. Kaido may or may not have had residual damage from the G4 gattling.
There's zero indication that Kaido found Luffy's damage harder to recover from than Zoro's. Coughing up blood is the main indicator of internal damage, and Zoro had Kaido coughing up far more blood.
 

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Please explain me what suggests that
Here you go:
It had a very impressive performance:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overpowered and destroyed Kaido's 3 tornadoes:

    • Kaido acknowledged that Zoro successfully countered his Tatsumaki:
    • Kaido directly deployed "Tatsumaki: Gale of Destruction" in response to Zoro:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki cut Kaido up with blood spurting from his body.
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up blood.
    • Kaido coughed up much more blood from Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki than after Luffy hit him with his Kong Gatling.
      • Luffy's Kong Gatling:
      • Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki (Kaido was coughing up blood for 3 panels):


  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki briefly knocked Kaido down:
  • Killer expresses surprise that Zoro cut Kaido:
  • Mama is surprised at Zoro cutting Kaido:
    • This suggests that Zoro's Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki dealt significant damage, as she made no reaction to several other attacks of the Supernova:
      • She did not comment that Killer's, Law's, Kidd's or Luffy's other attacks (Kong Gun, Kong Rifle, Rhino Schneider) damaged Kaido.
      • Based on Mama's reaction, it should be much more damage than any other attack (with the potential exception of Kong Gatling).
      • The only other attack, she commented hurt Kaido was Red Roc.
  • Kaido treated the attack with more regard than the other Supernova's attacks:
    • Kaido previously called Law's Gamma Knife, Kidd's Slam Gibson, and Luffy's Kong Rifle "tricks":
    • He called Killer's Scyther Sonic "vexing":
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is the only successful attack to receive special recognition/treatment from the Yonkou
    • The other was Luffy's Red Roc.

Kong Gatling probably dealt more damage than Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki, but the difference may be overstated:
  • Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki made Kaido cough up much more blood than Kong Gatling
    • It also cut Kaido up and drew a lot of blood from him directly
  • It overwhelmed and completely destroyed Kaido's named tornado attack

If you want to contend this, then answer me why:
  • Kaido called all the other attacks "tricks" (with the exception of Killer's which he called "vexing").
  • Mama didn't comment in surprise at any of the other attacks
  • Killer was himself surprised at Zoro's attack
  • Kaido bled a lot and coughed up a fuckton of blood after Zoro's attack.
    • Killer's attack also did internal damage, and only faint traces of blood where shown on Kaido's mouth.

Damage output of Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki >> (Scyther Sonic + Gamma Knife + Kong Rifle + Rhino Schneider + Slam Gibson + Takt + Rengoku Oni Giri + Beheading Claw + Punk Vise + Kong Gun).




 
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