Current Events Is killing Kaido necessary to save Wano and be the PK?

[MarineHQ]

The obsession is coming from the fact that Kaido was introduced literally trying to kill himself, a suicidal man searching for a place to die, how obvious can it get?

Kaido is not a person that can be let to see another day. He'll always interfere in the PK race and he quite frankly brings nothing else to the table narrative wise. At least Big mom will be taken out through the amnesia plot, but there's no option like that for Kaido.

"Evil" antagonists don't get their wishes fulfilled, that's the only argument in favour of Kaido surviving since he wants to die, but even if, he'll never get the glorious death he always wanted. He'll get beheaded in a country that doesn't report to the outside world and the only news the people will get is that he died, that's it.

 

[spawn]

Just because the Marines are incompetent, that doesn't mean this should be something needs to be done. Their duty is to execute prisoners that sentenced to death, the Pirates doesn't have to do that, they can bitchslap anyone, and call it a day.

Convenient of you to try and make just the marines look incompetent when the narrator mentions both the Navy and the Emperors as having tortured him and failed to kill him.

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Oden could possibly kill Kaido, or he could spare his life, and he already told him to get away from Wano. What do you think Kaido was going to do if he didn't have the hostage to win? Oden would keep beating him even if Kaido still tried after he escaped from the prison, so it wouldn't matter if Kaido died against Oden or not, Oden failed not because Kaido was unkillable, he failed because of the hostage situation.

Oden would be in Wano constantly defending it from a threat like Kaido.
Wano doesn't have someone like Oden who would constantly be protecting it.
Which is why they ended up like this ever since he left the nation.

The important thing is, defeating Kaido, removing Kaido's forces from Wano, and making Wano great again.

The goal has always been to open Wano's borders by killing Kaido and Orochi.

Spoiler

Your argument seems to be that once Luffy has defeated Kaido. Wano will magically stay great again, despite the looming threat of Kaido returning.
What if Kaido returns? Does Luffy come back and defeat him again?
Sure, but if Luffy defeats him again, Kaido still comes back to Wano once Luffy is gone.
Does Luffy have to be in Wano for x amount of years until Momonosuke and co. are strong and/or old enough to defeat Kaido over and over again each time he comes back?
The reason why Kaido has to die is that Wano can't have this threat return, that's the reason why the Alliance will get rid of this threat now.
If Luffy simply defeats Kaido and decides to leave Wano.
Kaido will still be a threat to Wano, and the entire cycle will restart.
That's why a lot of people who aren't even fans of ZKK think that Blackbeard arrives in Wano and kills the defeated Kaido then steals his Devil Fruit.
You remove the threat of Kaido to Wano and you expand Blackbeard.

 

[zzShinichi]

Kaidou is too much of a wildcard. He's not like Doffy, Croco, Lucci, Moria, Enel, villians who current Luffy will 1 shot when he meets them again. Even EOS Luffy will probably lose to Kaidou 3 out of 10. He will always be a looming threat, to Wano, to everything Luffy holds dear. He won't be scared shitless when he sees Luffy's flag, and Luffy won't always be there to protect his territories.
So there's 2 option:
+ He will be locked up again. But in his introduction, Oda said that he has escaped prisions many times.
+ He has to be killed. Oda introduced him as someone who can not be killed. It's Shonen 101 that a hero will make the impossible, possible.

 

[KageFumi]

Of course it's necessary. Kaido himself already different than whoever Strawhats encounter before. All the build through Wano indicating to kill him. ZKK

 

[Shelby]

On one hand, Oda rarely kills people. On the other hand, there are so many hints that involve Kaido and dying. Not sure how this is gonna play out.

 

[Finalbeta]

"Only in death perfection can be found"

A very profound and specific inference.

Zoro admits he desires to cut Kaido's head, he really took Wano's matters at heart, he is willing to carry Oden's will, to say it elengantly.

 

[NotTommy]

Marines could swoop in at the end, taking care of the issue of what happens to Kaido's crew. I wouldn't say it's a must that Kaido dies just because the Scabbards want him to, his defeat is the primary objective and that takes care of his tyrannical reign over Wano. Wano's borders open and Momo takes charge, with help from the Scabbards. There is an issue with Kaido constantly escaping from the Marines but we'll see how everything plays out. Oda might change things up due to the nature of this arc but I don't expect Kaido to die. Luffy surpassing him this arc seems most important. Kaido may want a glorious death but Oda preventing him from obtaining that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[uyuu]

Luffy can kill Kaidou or he can defeat him without killing. Kaidou being dead a few steps after withstanding Luffy's ultimate attack seems poetic, and Luffy defeating Kaidou to eternal near-death status, Kaidou's regenerative abilities being destroyed, is quite fine as well. Luffy's attack causing Kaidou's death may serve as Luffy's char development and maturing, a point which is really exciting imo.

 

[Doggo]

Kaido coming back to Wano after Luffy beats him is as likely as Lucci "chasing Nico Robin until the ends of the Earth" after defeated.
He will get thrown out of there, Wano will go back to being a strong country with strong warriors, and there wont be a Shogun to casually invite Kaido inside. That also with Luffy protecting it.

Kaido wont be killed by the SH's.

 

[Captain Luffy]

What if Imu kills kaido after luffy defeats him...it will be best hype for Eos villain

 

[Finalbeta]

What if Imu kills kaido after luffy defeats him...it will be best hype for Eos villain

There should most likely not be this causality of events intertwining either way since Luffy will more likely not be the man truly defeating Kaido depending on the acceptation of the definition however. ZKK most likely to occur, Luffy to provide the best contribution against Kaido less improbable but still improbable.

 

[HA001]

Kaido coming back to Wano after Luffy beats him is as likely as Lucci "chasing Nico Robin until the ends of the Earth" after defeated.
He will get thrown out of there, Wano will go back to being a strong country with strong warriors, and there wont be a Shogun to casually invite Kaido inside. That also with Luffy protecting it.

Kaido wont be killed by the SH's.

kaido can fly
he doesnt need anyone to invite him in

luffy could beat lucci 1 vs 1
not to mention after el the cp9 were hunted
luffy cant beat kaido alone

 

[Doggo]

kaido can fly
he doesnt need anyone to invite him in

luffy could beat lucci 1 vs 1
not to mention after el the cp9 were hunted
luffy cant beat kaido alone

Yeah, but we will get this "Wano is gonna have its dawn again and become a strong country bla bla bla".
kaido had Orochi's help to solidify his hold in Wano.
Oda makes it so that no pirate can conquer a peak Wano, because Wano built different.

 

[HA001]

Yeah, but we will get this "Wano is gonna have its dawn again and become a strong country bla bla bla".
kaido had Orochi's help to solidify his hold in Wano.
Oda makes it so that no pirate can conquer a peak Wano, because Wano built different.

who the fuck on wano can stop kaido

beating kaido with a gangbang (the man has fought 14 people so far) means nothing he will recover. Fast. Then what. Wano had oden then
wano dont have oden now

 

[zzShinichi]

Yeah, but we will get this "Wano is gonna have its dawn again and become a strong country bla bla bla".
kaido had Orochi's help to solidify his hold in Wano.
Oda makes it so that no pirate can conquer a peak Wano, because Wano built different.

Kaidou lol-diffed the current 9 strongest warriors on Wano, in a gangbang.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oda makes it so that no pirate can conquer a peak Wano, because Wano built different.

There's one man who can allegedly mostly by himself conquer a peak person in Wano. I'm still content if that occurs.

 

[zzShinichi]

Man people be like "bro Kaidou will be scared of Luffy, Kaidou won't dare try invading Wano again" like he didn't invade the country of the ex second commander of the WB pirate, former crew member of the Pirate King Crews, both of whom could have come banging at Wano Door and rofl-diff the like of Kaidou.

 

[Doggo]

who the fuck on wano can stop kaido

beating kaido with a gangbang (the man has fought 14 people so far) means nothing he will recover. Fast. Then what. Wano had oden then
wano dont have oden now

You forget Oda's trump card.

"Plot".

 

[HA001]

You forget Oda's trump card.

"Plot".

irrelevant look at wci they didnt beat big mom and she chased after them
if she doesnt lose here i guarantee she chases them to elbaf
these are top tiers they need to be dealt with permanently

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Bow down to him? What are you even talking about. WB, Shiki never bowed down to Roger. Lol 😆🤣😂😹 what are you reading

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So he escapes like he always does

He won't escape this time
Even if he does... he lost everything already