General & Others 9 Legit Reasons Why Sanji IS Fighting Queen.

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1. "Contact Queen Have Him send a Heavy "
The literal first chapter Sanji gets a moment in Wano, Queen is mentioned. He's the one who sent the Tobi Roppo after Sanji. Queen is the facilitator of the Soba Mask Plot point. Sanji's 1st plot point in the Wano arc.

2. Quirky Nature of Sanjis Opponents in One Piece.

Characters Defeated by Sanji in One Piece typically have a very quirky/gagish Personality/Appearance. Usually Pretty ugly as well.

Queen honestly fits right in with these characters. This is not a bad thing I'm just pointing out consistencies/patterns throughout the series.

Ironically Queen and Sanji cried over Komurasaki as well. Makes you wonder if there may be some future plot point between the 2. involving Hiyori.

3. Vinsmoke Judge...

Another instance of Oda connecting Queen to Sanji, this time in the form of Vinsmoke Judge. Not only did queen start the soba mask plot line that involved sanji using his raid suit from his vinsmoke family now Oda is implying Queen knows Vinsmoke Judge in some way.

4. Enies Lobby 2.0
Onigashima is playing out like Enies Lobby for Sanji
Sanji in Enies Lobby lost to Khalifa and had to have Nami bail him out afterwords he went on to defeat Jabra 3rd strongest in CP9 Mid Diff, and opened the gates of justice.
Similarly Sanji lost to Black Maria and had to have Robin bail him out, he's likely going to defeat the 3rd strongest in Kaidos Crew, Queen Mid Diff and do some clutch save afterwards.

And just like how Usopp was fighting Jabra before he had to get saved
Chopper will also Get saved

5. The Difference in Speed

Historically theres always been a disgusting difference in Speed between Sanji and opponents he defeats. Why? Because Speed it how Sanji operates, its probably Sanjis biggest attribute as a combatant. If Sanji doesn't have the speed advantage he usually does not win. Dont see Sanji being able to out speed King enough for it to matter in a fight and Jack is already taken, that leaves Queen.......

6. Big Mom....

This is one may be controversial but there is some truth to it.......hear me out.
Queen and Sanji both had to subdue Big Mom in order to save their comrades. It almost mirrors Sanjis situation, where they had to briefly knock out Big Mom and take her else where to prevent her from destroying everyone.
Ironically Both Queen and Sanji mention a ship.....

We see Queens Ship and what does it say? "Q 03".....

7. X Drake

Sanji and Queen have connections to X Drake.

X Drake is the one Queen sent after Sanji and has pursued Sanji on multiple Occasions .

Ironically Drake also has a connection to Queen as well.

also Ironically both Drake and Queen know about The Vinsmokes which leads me to my next point.


8. The North Remembers

Out of the 4 people who have mentioned Sanji and the Germa in the Wano Arc. 2 of them are currently allies being X Drake and Law, Hawkins being an unknown entity who could change sides any time, So Queen is really the only one who has mentioned the Vinsmokes thats an actual threat to the alliance.

I think Law, X Drake and potentially Hawkins, will witness Sanji fight against Queen.
And Comment on his Stealth Black abilities. Yes I think Sanjis fight will have an audience of some sort....

This may have been foreshadowed In Sanjis Soba Mask chapter. When Law says everyone from the north blue knows.

9. History
Finally The most obvious one that people hate , but its just fact. Queen is 3rd strongest in the Beast Pirates, Sanji is 3rd strongest in the Strawhats. Its likely going to happen just because of that fact. Theres no need to complicate that shit.......We know how this shit works in arcs like these. Wano has the long Build up Alabasta had and the 2 island structure Water7/Enies Lobby had. Both arcs in which our Cook fought the 3rd. And theres nothing wrong with that.

 

[HA001]

Looooool @Prince Kronos rebuttal ?

 

[NotTommy]

Strong agree. Sanji vs Queen seems the most likely though there are reasons for Sanji vs King as well. 3rd strongest of the Beast Pirates vs the 3rd strongest of the Straw Hats. Queen outright said that he wanted to take down either Zoro or Sanji and that Judge connection is there. The King clash was cool but I prefer the idea of Sanji vs Queen and it seems more likely as well.

 

[jack1]

I don't even think there is really much need for this analysis, you could argue that he could fight King because of the small momonosuke plot line but yeah I see him fighting Queen as well

 

[Doggo]

1- King wants to kill Momo. Sanji wants to protect Momo. PLot point as well.

2- Zoro fought "quirky" enemies as well, actually. the monocycle dude from buggy crew, the cat brothers from kuro crew, Hacchi, Kaku (the goofy squared nose giraffe was the quirky one, not Jabura), Pica. Sanji fought more serious enemies as well. Pearl (looks stupid, but is not "quirky"), Gin, Kuroobi, Jabura. There's no "pattern" here. Satori was a team fight. Sanji didn't fight alone. Luffy and Usopp were there.

3- Oda has abandoned shit before. Even in this arc. Where's Nidai Kitetsu again?

4- Zoro didnt use Ashura on Lucci. The comparison ends here.

5- He didn't "outspeed" mr2. Jabura is a "Soru" user. Sanji had to bait him into attacking him and getting close, so he could finish Jabura. Again, imprecise point.

6- Kidd is fighting Big Mom. Is he gonna lose and go down to help Sanji against Queen as well? Extremely poor reasoning.

7- That's actually a good point. I'll give you that. Nothing to complain about it.

8- I understand this "he talked about Vinsmoke". There's are ways to showcasing it without making him fight Sanji. I understand the argument, but I just find this "plot" unnecessary.

9- Was Mr2 the third strongest? Because there are two other people who could be "stronger" than him. Mrs Doublefinger and Nico Robin. Is there an SBS for this or something?

 

[HA001]

1- King wants to kill Momo. Sanji wants to protect Momo. PLot point as well.

2- Zoro fought "quirky" enemies as well, actually. the monocycle dude from buggy crew, the cat brothers from kuro crew, Hacchi, Kaku (the goofy squared nose giraffe was the quirky one, not Jabura), Pica. Sanji fought more serious enemies as well. Pearl (looks stupid, but is not "quirky"), Gin, Kuroobi, Jabura. There's no "pattern" here. Satori was a team fight. Sanji didn't fight alone. Luffy and Usopp were there.

3- Oda has abandoned shit before. Even in this arc. Where's Nidai Kitetsu again?

4- Zoro didnt use Ashura on Lucci. The comparison ends here.

5- He didn't "outspeed" mr2. Jabura is a "Soru" user. Sanji had to bait him into attacking him and getting close, so he could finish Jabura. Again, imprecise point.

6- Kidd is fighting Big Mom. Is he gonna lose and go down to help Sanji against Queen as well? Extremely poor reasoning.

7- That's actually a good point. I'll give you that. Nothing to complain about it.

8- I understand this "he talked about Vinsmoke". There's are ways to showcasing it without making him fight Sanji. I understand the argument, but I just find this "plot" unnecessary.

9- Was Mr2 the third strongest? Because there are two other people who could be "stronger" than him. Mrs Doublefinger and Nico Robin. Is there an SBS for this or something?

Robin snaps Bentham.

 

[zzShinichi]

Civil war between the Sanji fans?

 

[Lukegranders]

The recent color spread also had queens bounty on sanjis arm.

Like I said I can see zoro being healed by hiyori then he tries to go to the roof but is stopped by king and queen.

Sanji then pulls up and the fight ensues

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Incredibly good thread. Two things in here that I missed that makes me believe it even more is Queen instigating the Raid Suit even being used & both blonds stopping Linlin.

There's a good bit of commonality between them. Both lusting after Hiyori too.

 

[Doggo]

Robin snaps Bentham.

Then the "3rd strongest enemy" point is dead as well.

 

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1- King wants to kill Momo. Sanji wants to protect Momo. PLot point as well.

2- Zoro fought "quirky" enemies as well, actually. the monocycle dude from buggy crew, the cat brothers from kuro crew, Hacchi, Kaku (the goofy squared nose giraffe was the quirky one, not Jabura), Pica. Sanji fought more serious enemies as well. Pearl (looks stupid, but is not "quirky"), Gin, Kuroobi, Jabura. There's no "pattern" here. Satori was a team fight. Sanji didn't fight alone. Luffy and Usopp were there.

3- Oda has abandoned shit before. Even in this arc. Where's Nidai Kitetsu again?

4- Zoro didnt use Ashura on Lucci. The comparison ends here.

5- He didn't "outspeed" mr2. Jabura is a "Soru" user. Sanji had to bait him into attacking him and getting close, so he could finish Jabura. Again, imprecise point.

6- Kidd is fighting Big Mom. Is he gonna lose and go down to help Sanji against Queen as well? Extremely poor reasoning.

7- That's actually a good point. I'll give you that. Nothing to complain about it.

8- I understand this "he talked about Vinsmoke". There's are ways to showcasing it without making him fight Sanji. I understand the argument, but I just find this "plot" unnecessary.

9- Was Mr2 the third strongest? Because there are two other people who could be "stronger" than him. Mrs Doublefinger and Nico Robin. Is there an SBS for this or something?

1. A lot of character want to protect Momonuske bruh.....its not a plot point unique to Sanji.
2. Again Im referring to characters Defeated by Sanji....... meaning regardless if it was 1v2, or 1v3 the character was defeated by Sanji.
3.This arc isn't over you can't say abandon anything.
4. Zoro used a new attack against the 2nd strongest in enies lobby that can still happen.......

5.Mr.2 is all you got, Sanji was factually speed blitzing Jabra, Jabra had Soru but was nowhere near as fast as Kaku or Lucci.

6. Sanji and Queens situations were unique bruh, Kidds not doing what they were doing nor does he relate at all.

9. Mr. 2 was the 3rd strongest male individual im pretty sure.

 

[Doggo]

I said it in another thread but I will say it here.
Sanji is a side character.
This is not a Sanji centered arc or something.
There's 0 "need" for his opponent to have some sort of "connection" to him.

There are arguments to be made for Sanji to fight multiple people during the raid. he's been gone for several chapters. It's more likely Oda is just teasing the readers with the possibilities than actually stating anything.

What I also said, and still believe, is that the "Vinsmoke" plot is completely unnecessary at this point, since it had enough "closure" with Sanji accepting to use the Raid Suit to get enough power to protect his friends.
While I do believe there are ways to extend this plotline and actually make it interesting, I find Oda's storytelling during Wano arc mediocre AT BEST (only because of the Yasuie execution and Roger's adventure on Oden's flashback). If not for these 2 things, I would consider Wano EXTREMELY poor and not compelling at all. So pardon me if I don't have high hopes for Oda introducing yet another plot in the middle of an already dragged raid.

 

[MonsterZoro]

X drake fight queen he is connected to world governement ( vega punk / pacifista / queen's history with judge etc..) Oda made drake stay right next to queen for a reason.

Don't forget X drake devil fruit used to hunt queens devil fruit ( in real life) so oda can be basing off this too

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

I prefer Sanji vs King but Queen's cool too.

 

[Law-sama]

The true question is: Can Sanji give Queen a good fight?

 

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I said it in another thread but I will say it here.
Sanji is a side character.
This is not a Sanji centered arc or something.
There's 0 "need" for his opponent to have some sort of "connection" to him.

There are arguments to be made for Sanji to fight multiple people during the raid. he's been gone for several chapters. It's more likely Oda is just teasing the readers with the possibilities than actually stating anything.

What I also said, and still believe, is that the "Vinsmoke" plot is completely unnecessary at this point, since it had enough "closure" with Sanji accepting to use the Raid Suit to get enough power to protect his friends.
While I do believe there are ways to extend this plotline and actually make it interesting, I find Oda's storytelling during Wano arc mediocre AT BEST (only because of the Yasuie execution and Roger's adventure on Oden's flashback). If not for these 2 things, I would consider Wano EXTREMELY poor and not compelling at all. So pardon me if I don't have high hopes for Oda introducing yet another plot in the middle of an already dragged raid.

Thats not a good argument... were 1000 plus chapters into the story, One Piece is ABOUT TO END in 5-7 years.....Almost Nothing is going to happen without purpose from here on out. Fights included....... Their going to tie in with these characters somehow. Almost every fight in this arc has had a purpose beyond just defeating an opponent.

 

[Doggo]

Thats not a good argument... were 1000 plus chapters into the story, One Piece is ABOUT TO END in 5-7 years.....Almost Nothing is going to happen without purpose from here on out. Fights included....... Their going to tie in with these characters somehow. Almost every fight in this arc has had a purpose beyond just defeating an opponent.

It's PRECISELY because it is ending, that some plots don't need to be extended if they had closure already.

 

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It's PRECISELY because it is ending, that some plots don't need to be extended if they had closure already.

When the get those 1011 spoilers, you'll be grateful I made this thread, Because Sanjis gonna fight perospero first and then fight queen after.

 

[Doggo]

When the get those 1011 spoilers, you'll be grateful I made this thread, Because Sanjis gonna fight perospero first and then fight queen after.

Sanji can solo Both Jack, Queen and Perospero in a 1v3 that I wouldn't like it at this point.
If no Sanji vs King, just for how cool it would look, might as well just offscreen his fight so this arc can end quicker.

I was hyped for him soloing any Calamity and the SH's fighting the Flying 6 quite a few chapters ago.
But now? Meh. Don't care anymore.

 

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Sanji can solo Both Jack, Queen and Perospero in a 1v3 that I wouldn't like it at this point.
If no Sanji vs King, just for how cool it would look, might as well just offscreen his fight so this arc can end quicker.

I was hyped for him soloing any Calamity and the SH's fighting the Flying 6 quite a few chapters ago.
But now? Meh. Don't care anymore.

You didn't go into this arc expecting Sanji vs King........or any 1st commander. So idk why you gonna act all disappointed if he doesnt fight one now......When we saw King and Queen we expected Sanji to fight Queen. But then the Anime adds some stuff and Sanji and King clash now all of sudden things have changed.