Questions & Mysteries Was Sanji "knocked" out when he was rammed through the building..by King?

Was sanji knocked out even after the evidence going against this notion?

  • yes

    Votes: 24 40.7%

  • No

    Votes: 35 59.3%
  • Total voters
    59
BleakAsh

BleakAsh

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#1
#1
I have been seeing a lot of comments claiming that sanji was knocked out by King for "a chapter" aka a pretty decent period of time etc in order to show him down (again what else can you expect).. which i doubt he really got knocked out..

So lets begin with where sanji gets rammed into a building..
http://imgur.com/a/4M7ylAx
after sanji gets rammed.. luffy orders yamato to look after momo and then BM comes in with Ikaku Sovereignty but luffy dodges and here comes franky freedom rider..and topples BM over.. (in a matter of couple of seconds)

http://imgur.com/a/p4mr8GO
after that luffy flings himself towards to roof (this part will be continued later after franky stuff is progressed first)
And franky is about to shoot a beam at BM
but the Numbers interfere has he has to divert his beam at the one who has ussop and Choppy in barachio bomber..
http://imgur.com/a/qcRn9K1
And around when this number gets shot the panels go back to progress luffy who flung himself towards queen and zoro simultaneously... so queen comes across then and luffy is about to fling zoro with him to the roof and we clearly see king isn't present since luffy in bottom right panel SEES THE SKY through the hole in the roof so he's down with sanji.. but queen stops the duo and then we see the number franky knocked out finally hits the ground and sanji is on his feet..

http://imgur.com/a/ZrN7qXX


SOOO:


This means that the moment around when franky shot the number after BM rose seconds after luffy left a moment ago when she was toppled, luffy had reached queen (with king not present meaning he was with sanji below after they crashed ) and was caught by him and then king appears... and sanji was on his legs and kicking already while Luffy and zoro got caught meaning sanji dusted the attack and wasn't even unconscious.


He wasn't even sounding like he got knocked out.. the text isn't jittery to show that sanji just got up after being unconscious and is in pain... just like how Ashura had jittery texts when he got stabbed by pseudo-oden.. which doesn't make sense that he was unconscious coz he got rammed seconds ago

in a matter of seconds not even a minute.
so the period of time between when sanji got shot through the building and franky shooting down a number.. is just couple of seconds with king still being with sanji after the number got shot but hadn't fallen..

one thing that doesn't make sense is that king took time bouncing back... its either that when franky shot the number and king was still ramming sanji through the building.. or he suffered collateral damage (DA BEak)


Either way ig i have proven my point that it took sanji just couple of seconds to bounce back and it was right after King did.. soo
he wasn't knocked out at all... from how he sounded

Logically if he was knocked out.. why would he be unscathed the next panel...


Summary :

-The period after SANJII got shot.. to when franky took down the number.... can be reduced to mere seconds..

for someone to be unconscious for couple of seconds without sustaining any injuries isn't logical

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Right hand man - @BangMi
Left hand man - @NotTommy
Advisor - @Hahasanji

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2nd Commander - @Arrow
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5th Commander - @Vinsmoke D. Zolo
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9th Commander - @Shepherd
10th Commander - @LordVinsmoke
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12th Commander - @Ishin
13th Commander - @Raiden7

and the guy who made me make this post.. credits to @matt245
 
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Warchief Sanji D Goat

Warchief Sanji D Goat

Mommy Fubuki!
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#5
#5
I've already debunked this.
Zoro D Goat said:
Not this again......


At the beginning of the chapter where Franky shot a beam at one of the numbers who's holding Ussop and Chopper.


Ever heard of multi-events? Yeah, this is it. Everything is happening in different frames but the timeline is still the same.

In literature, events are showed differently but the time are still the same.

This is the middle of the chapter.


The Number that got shot by the radical beam is still falling down. Now the Shogun that Chopper and Usopp are in barely came off the hands of the Number. Usopp and Chopper say it's docking time as they are falling out of the air.

Here is the end of the chapter where the Number who was shot still did not touch the ground but is still falling. Which means this whole chapter is literally happening in seconds and each event minutes are not passing by but actually just Oda telling the story from different peoples perspective in a single time frame.

This is another proof of that it got shifted to Luffy and Zoro and the Number is still falling down from Franky's radical beam at the beginning of the chapter and the smoke cloud didn't even fade yet from the attack. So the argument that the scene shifting between everyone is "minutes or hours" passing by just doesn't make any sense. In manga and comics, only seconds have passed by of all these events that is currently occurring. King left to Luffy and Zoro before the Number even fell down. And that was at the beginning of the chapter where he was shot at.


So now here is the end where Ussop and Chopper are still in the Shogun were in is still floating in the air from the time the Number let go of them. Now the Shogun is transforming and Ussop and Chopper got out and they were still floating in the air. Then the Number finally goes down. This is happening in matter of seconds.

Usopp and Chopper were talking about docking time in a few panels before. And then they were still falling from the air. It's not like they were falling from skyscraper or anything.



And then the Numbers were hitting the floor and Sanji was standing up the whole time. ^^

Sanji was like:


So in the end this whole event this chapter is happening in seconds within each other and Oda just changes to different characters but the time frames are all in the same timeline.

Sanji was never knocked out in the first place. If he was indeed knocked out then there would be panel of this.


By your guys logic, you guys said that Sanji didn't beat Page One because he was not defeated on panel but apparently Sanji got knocked out by King even though Sanji didn't even got knocked out?:memehm:


Sanji was standing up here just fine.


Let's say if you get hit by a baseball bat to the face, what would happen to your body? Exactly, you would get knocked out.


But Sanji wasn't.

Another examples would be Luffy knocking Doffy down through multiple buildings in Dressrosa.

And then we switched to Cavendish and Law.

And then we saw Viola climbing down the spider net.


And then Leo's group.


And then bunch of panels later, Doffy was still in the castle.

And then we switched to Doffy after getting sent flying and he's still conscious.

Want more examples?
This is Luffy on Page 2, before all of the Big Mom/Numbers stuff

There's a hole in the wall. That hole caused by Yamato's handcuffs exploding.

This explosion happened right below the execution platform. (You can see the same trees on the stone just like the Luffy's panel).

So Luffy on Page 2 is seconds away from the Luffy we see on Page 12.

The Usopp and Chopper's scene was happening simultaneously and the same goes for every scenes. You can't see everything happening at the same time so you have the sectional panels parts.

Even more examples?

You guys were saying Zoro blocked Kaido's and Big Mom's attack for more than a second. But according to Viz, it was just 1 second.

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bennbeckman

bennbeckman

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#14
#14
BleakAsh said:
Reason >>> majority's bias

sometimes
a dozen can believe a fallacy and a handful can be realistic..

don't generalize the majority... it not always right... plus if you will make a poll.. tag mine and @Zoro D Goat's post in it...
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People that resort to "fallacy" when they lose poll because majority opinion doesnt agree LOLOLOL That is just a load of a crap. and I say this to everyone who believes that not just you
 
BleakAsh

BleakAsh

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#17
#17
bennbeckman said:
People that resort to "fallacy" when they lose poll
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yea it is a logical fallacy to believe that the majority is always right... especially in this forum which is epitome of shallowness and bias..

i gave you factual proof and you're suggesting to let the bias of the majority to take the helm... thats as shallow as one can get..

its an axiom... a lion would prefer a deer over a human coz of personal preference.


what is a loada crap is your mentality of vast subjectiveness....

the odds of people in this forum look at this topic from an objective angle is hitting rock bottom except a scarce few..
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Finalbeta said:
Who claimed he was knocked out?
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i mentioned the person who propelled me into making this at the end of the post
 
bennbeckman

bennbeckman

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#20
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BleakAsh said:
yea it is a logical fallacy to believe that the majority is always right... especially in this forum which is epitome of shallowness and bias..

i gave you factual proof and you're suggesting to let the bias of the majority to take the helm... thats as shallow as one can get..

its an axiom... a lion would prefer a dear over a human coz of personal preference.


what is a loada crap is your mentality of vast subjectiveness....

the odds of people in this forum look at this topic from an objective angle is hitting rock bottom except a scarce few..
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i mentioned the person who propelled me into making this
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No it's just a sad excuse when people lose polls and can't convince people. Most likely you're presenting narrative and a tunnel visions depiction of manga panels and not actual manga facts

If you present actual manga facts without spinning it, there should be no problem convincing people to vote on your side but it's never the case and people come up with the load of crap called ad no populum to make themselves feel better at the end of the day. Because they will say that everytime they lose

To answer this question, gonna say no he didnt there's no proof of him with blank eyes like Luffy vs Apoo
 
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