Future Events Contra Zoro vs King

[Human D Luffy]

That's really depend on how long Yamato can stall Kaido before Luffy and Zoro reaches the rooftop but I could see that.

I meant Yamato can do some decent damages onto Kaido before luffy shows up.
Whether she will be conscious or not before luffy finally shows up, i am not too sure.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Strawhat vs Oars 2.0?

Picking up where they lost two years ago on sabaody archipelago
:cheers:

 

[Human D Luffy]

By the time Luffy gets back up Yamato will probably be down for the count.

Luffy/Zoro/Sanji/Usopp/Nami/Chopper/Franky/Brook/Robin vs Kaido to end the night.

Nine shadows will take down Kaido and show him a new dawn

Jinbe will hold of CP0 or Big Mom imo.

Doubt 9 of them would show up to beat Kaido. It's simply unnecessary.
It also doesn't make sense to exclude jinbei considering he has just joined the crew.
Surely Oda doesn't want to exclude him....

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Doubt 9 of them would show up to beat Kaido. It's simply unnecessary.
It also doesn't make sense to exclude jinbei considering he has just joined the crew.
Surely Oda doesn't want to exclude him....

We’ll see, but I feel Oda may use him to further the big mom or CP plot line. It would definitely fit with how CP0 was just talking. We’ll have to see more of what Odas plan is.

And how is it unnecessary? Kaido is too strong on his own

 

[Human D Luffy]

We’ll see, but I feel Oda may use him to further the big mom or CP plot line. It would definitely fit with how CP0 was just talking. We’ll have to see more of what Odas plan is.

And how is it unnecessary? Kaido is too strong on his own

1) nami, usopp and chopper add nothing to beat kaido. they are irrelevant. we all know that.
2) excluding jinbei (10th member) just to fit the narrative of 9 shadows doesnt make any sense. the 9 shadows might not even refer to 9 people, so trying to find 9 people to fit the puzzle is highly questionable.
3) this arc is not just about the SH, its about wano and the samauri. Oda has made it very clear with the amount of time he spent on depicting each of the 9 scabbards and even Oden's backstory. Having nami, usopp, choppers as 3 shadows are an insult to Toki's prophecy and to the 9 scabbard's resolution.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

I'm confident Luffy will solo a somewhat handicapped Kaido (not nearly to the extent Doflamingo was). I can't see Luffy emerging from Wano still way behind the Yonkou when the end game is next. Luffy's second L to Kaido only happened because he didn't have a better grip on weaponized COC.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Luffy's second L to Kaido only happened because he didn't have a better grip on weaponized COC.

Luffy's loss is that he is nowhere as strong as Kaido. it's that simple.
That is like saying if Zoro didn't have 30 broken bones he would have killed kaido with ashura.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Luffy's loss is that he is nowhere as strong as Kaido. it's that simple.

Reread this scene. Kaido outright comments on his weaponized COC as subpar.

Spoiler

That is like saying if Zoro didn't have 30 broken bones he would have killed kaido with ashura.

I'm not sure how this is even the same thing. Zoro is crippled because of two Yonkou. Oda is plotting for Luffy to have mastery of weaponized COC to beat Kaido because that's where the plot is heading.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Reread this scene. Kaido outright comments on his weaponized COC as subpar.

Spoiler

I'm not sure how this is even the same thing. Zoro is crippled because of two Yonkou. Oda is plotting for Luffy to have mastery of weaponized COC to beat Kaido because that's where the plot is heading.

The thing is kaido hasn't used any range attack like his own version of hakai or ringing arrow yet........these kind of moves are the strongest......lets see how luffy deals with them.........

 

[Human D Luffy]

Reread this scene. Kaido outright comments on his weaponized COC as subpar.

Spoiler

I'm not sure how this is even the same thing. Zoro is crippled because of two Yonkou. Oda is plotting for Luffy to have mastery of weaponized COC to beat Kaido because that's where the plot is heading.

This is stupid... so kaido said luffy is not joyboy, luffy is not joyboy then... LOL.
Literally all Kaido said is luffy is too weak and his adv coc sucks.
And now you are making the conclusion that luffy will get coc stronger next fight and beat Kaido 1 v 1....

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Everything but Zoro vs Ling

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

This is stupid... so kaido said luffy is not joyboy, luffy is not joyboy then... LOL.

I'm not sure what this relates to.

Literally all Kaido said is luffy is too weak and his adv coc sucks.

Luffy's "too weak" because his weaponized COC "sucks."

And now you are making the conclusion that luffy will get coc stronger next fight and beat Kaido....

I'm saying Luffy will have better mastery over his COC next time.

 

[Human D Luffy]

I'm not sure what this relates to.



Luffy's "too weak" because his weaponized COC "sucks."

And he will stay weak because he aint beating kaido 1 v 1 and because he aint joyboy because "Kaido said it".
LOL

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

And he will stay weak because he aint beating kaido 1 v 1

We'll see about that.

 

[Human D Luffy]

We'll see about that.

we have seen it 3 times already

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

we have seen it 3 times already

And we'll see it a fourth time when Luffy has better mastery of weaponized COC.

 

[Human D Luffy]

And we'll see it a fourth time when Luffy has better mastery of weaponized COC.

I don't disagree with this part

 

[Finalbeta]

Strawhat vs Oars 2.0?

This time it would probably be too spitey in Kaido's disfavour

 

[Kuruka]

Asura was able to overpower Kaido.
fighting King will not give Zoro anything anymore. no growth, no nothing.

Kaido it is.

overpower is a bit of an overstatement. he scared kaido thats it...
if his attack beat out one of kaidos that would be different

 

[matt245]

In the last 30 Chapters, a certain Scene provided very Strong Proof that ZKK will happen
But till this day, not a single Reader has figured it out, gonna share it soon

So i agree with this Thread, Zoro vs King is Pointless & have no Argument to support it aside from King's Design
But Zoro vs Kaido again have risen to 99% Chance for me

Wait what? I think that almost all the scenes that hinted ZKK were alr pointed out. Anyways, if it is true, I am rlly looking forward to it. Don't disappoint me lol. Tag me if you are going to reveal it.