[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 2 - Town of Salem Test Take 2

[Emil]

You tell me. I wouldn‘t say that any of this is stuff you wouldn‘t do as scum. Because what wouldn‘t you do as scum?

no please work with me here, answer the questions

like just clear ur mind for a bit and answer them without pre-biasing me as scum and just feeding off that

 

[Emil]

It's already on somebody.

who? will u stay on them?

 

[Emil]

Are you saying I have TMI? Or what exactly isn't townie about me?

not necessarily tmi but rather ur not worried about anything, or dont seem to be worried about scum or w.e. u give me that vibe

 

[Flower]

no please work with me here, answer the questions

like just clear ur mind for a bit and answer them without pre-biasing me as scum and just feeding off that

Again. What wouldn‘t you do as scum? I can see you do that as both alignments. It‘s NAI for you, so similar reads prove nothing. Give me a reason to Town read you without WIFOM, please.

 

[Dragomir]

I recommend to you all to tweak your approach to this specific game. It's not gonna operate like the same ToS where town will get a buttload of information and claiming becomes critical to town's victory. Zem and I redesigned ToS so it can take on a bit more similar to trad. This is made most obvious by the fact that this game start's with a D1 and not the usual evening to night phase. With that being said, don't ask for claims as if this is a normal ToS game. Vote the person up and they will claim on their own accordance.

 

[Dragomir]

who? will u stay on them?

Xlaw. You were there when I voted him.

Not sure. I think I need to reread this entire day phase. I want to especially make a stance on this You vs Everyone battle that's happening.

 

[Emil]

Ok so as you asked @Ekkologix here's why I lean Flower, Lind and Drago as town.

• For Flower it's purely a meta wise. Her tunnel on you and aggro over the joke puts her in a spotlight she wouldn't want to be in as scum. As if she doesn't get enough attention just holding her name lol.
• As for Lind he's serious from the get-go, questioning everyone. Just comparing his play to last ToS, where he was very fluffy and literally going ham with those "I'm mafia" jokes lmao.
• Drago has scum leans and he doesn't just sit on them, he tries to push those people - by people I mean me though, I have been semi-focused on his other reads. I understand his reasoning for thinking Fuji is town even though I don't agree with it. But I don't like that he's still reading him town after Fuji has done nothing once he stacked the votes on Flower.

i agree on flower, it was bad at the start because she was pretending too much to be the victim, but now shes took it too far shes more often than not just town than scum

lind started pretty fluffy and vague rn tho, isnt rly joking about being mafia but he isnt really contributing anything substantial. i dont see the usual original thoughts from him to give him a town lean, so hes null at best for me

idk about the drago one, he seems overly calculative to me and i find his defense of me weird

 

[Melontonin]

So after a quick iso you've been quoted multiple times by Al, Lind, Lanji, odd. Do you have any reads on any of them @Ekkologix ?

 

[Emil]

I recommend to you all to tweak your approach to this specific game. It's not gonna operate like the same ToS where town will get a buttload of information and claiming becomes critical to town's victory. Zem and I redesigned ToS so it can take on a bit more similar to trad. This is made most obvious by the fact that this game start's with a D1 and not the usual evening to night phase. With that being said, don't ask for claims as if this is a normal ToS game. Vote the person up and they will claim on their own accordance.

good post

 

[Emil]

So after a quick iso you've been quoted multiple times by Al, Lind, Lanji, odd. Do you have any reads on any of them @Ekkologix ?

i have been quoted by the whole game im sure i missed lots of them

AL and odd are scum of some sort, lind is null

 

[Emil]

im not even selective, i just have too many to answer, by the time i write one i get 2 more

 

[Flower]

Xlaw. You were there when I voted him.

Not sure. I think I need to reread this entire day phase. I want to especially make a stance on this You vs Everyone battle that's happening.

Who is everyone, though? He has 5 votes and we have 18 players. Can hardly call that everyone, fam.

 

[Emil]

flower rly thinks scum hands themselves on a golden plate

 

[AL sama]

YES BECAUSE U SAID U DIDNT LIKE 3 OF US
AND U AGREED WE CANT BE TOGETHER

dont make me repeat myself and answer me, do u think 3 of us are scum or only one or 2 of us are?

answer

I should be saying it was like a soft defense in disguise

as for my reads I m not liking quite a few
drago
law
uaopp

we havent interacted much this game but surely u dont think the 3 of us can be in a team together whatsoever right?
so atleast 2 of us have to indies in ur mind here is what i get from this

hold on hold hold on

I don't think all of you are a team but where did the at least 2 indies part came from???

say what again??

you assumed first I agreed later so my point is still valid

why'd you assume so without TMI??

 

[Dragomir]

Who is everyone, though? He has 5 votes and we have 18 players. Can hardly call that everyone, fam.

That was obviously a hyperbole, Flower.

 

[Fujishiro]

How is it a reaction test, though, when I'm not even here? I don't get that reasoning.

Bonjour, im reding up your posts now.

Lets see how you are holding up.

 

[Emil]

You are essentially saying that scum don't try to give a town pool, even though it should actually be easier since they have TMI. Furthermore, I think saying who you think is town is a great way to sneak some scum in there to cast doubt in the later day-phases, I don't see how scum wouldn't give their town reads in the game.

Also, I'm not sure if you're specifically sefl-meta'ing here, but you've been asking me and others what are our town reads. If we take the logic you have written here, wouldn't it make more sense to ask for our scum reads instead? To see if we're causing town confusion or not?

In any case, how would you know if we are causing confusion unless you know the setup of the scum team?

it should be easier to give town reads as scum yes, BUT it should never be done. no sane scum helps town solve the game. it being easier verus it being done are 2 different things.
if i got shot by an SK or vig or got lynched and flipped scum then town can iso my posts and gain huge info off it
i wont give that kinda town reads as scum, im not dumb.

no im more interested in town reads early game to see if we share any. the idea is a scum would know whose town or not so if i ask a scum his town reads he might give me couple names that i agree with, further solidifying my pool, but if i ask a scum his scum reads he will just throw everything amess and give me random names or wacky reads to add more confusion.

i rather start by taking the town reads then pushing scum ones

 

[AL sama]

This is not true at all. I am never lazy as town. Never.

what freaking lie drago

 

[Flower]

That was obviously a hyperbole, Flower.

Still weird, though, given it‘s just a few people pushing him. But whatever.

 

[Melontonin]

The Fuji dipping argument is whack. Fuji made his last post at 12:44am my time which would be 1:44am his time. Trying to paint him as bad for "dipping" when he very likely could have gone to sleep is a very unfair argument and bad reasoning.

It's been over 12 hours and let me tell you this man checks his phone morning day and evening ()