[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 2 - Town of Salem Test Take 2

[Flower]

Aight, this is Town Ratchet.

 

[Flower]

It‘s a Death Note Dub reference.

 

[AL sama]

Plot twist: Al and Fuji are scum and Fuji just exposed each other.

wanna bet lemon??

if I m scum you pick my avy for 5 months

 

[Zemmi]

Just so you guys are aware I don't know all y'alls nicknames

 

[Flower]

Just so you guys are aware I don't know all y'alls nicknames

Scumperouge and Lamperoni are both Light.

 

[Fujishiro]

Just so you guys are aware I don't know all y'alls nicknames

Which one you're having trouble with ?

 

[AL sama]

Al scuma

shut up sussopp

 

[Fujishiro]

Vote Lynch Lamppanini

@Zem

 

[Lindltaylor]

lind are you even serious??

Al all I remember from you is tunneling Usopp. Some Xlaw and Drago interaction and then back to Usopp again. What else am I gonna conclude from that tunnel? There's no townie points for tunneling.

 

[Emil]

Yes, but you're not seeing my point. While you may not actually be solving the game for the Town, as scum, you'd want to maintain at least the appearance of doing so. So using your established Town meta as a point in your favour doesn't really work, because by mentioning it you demonstrate that you are aware of it, and by being aware of it, you then possess the ability to appear to be following said meta, without actually following said meta. While solving the game itself is hard to do as scum (not impossible, especially with multiple scum factions present), presenting yourself as solving the game while not actually solving the game isn't just possible, it's intrinsic to playing as scum. It's er, it's kinda the point lol.
But I don't agree that I'm throwing shade, nor do I feel like I've given an activity excuse. I feel like my reasoning here is sound - your read was weak and poorly founded, and ultimately didn't even really serve as a read, because it boiled down to "well he could be town, but he may be scum too". It tells us nothing, and is exactly the kind of faux-contribution I'm looking for when hunting for scum, especially active scum. Your defence of it was "well it was page 1, so of course it was weak and poorly-founded". But here lies the rub. I don't see why, as town, you would feel any reason to make that read. As scum, I could see it being you trying to find town reads to latch onto, but town have next to no motivation to invest reasons to give town reads,as opposed to them coming naturally.

It's one of the biggest difference in how a townie approaches the game and how scum approach the game. And so, even if you may not agree to my point in terms of it being scummy, dismissing and downplaying my argument as "shade" is both disingenuous and sloppy, and it's within this defence that my impression of you in this game goes from "awkward early posts, potentially scum" to "rambling, waffley defence of behaviour that is pretty cut and dry". And that, Usopp, is a more developed scum read.

Vote: Ekkologix

do u actually read my posts?

like seriously do u?

all u said is not happening this game

 

[Emil]

wanna bet lemon??

if I m scum you pick my avy for 5 months

these r famous last words for scum

 

[Emil]

Aight, this is Town Ratchet.

thats too fast of a read to someone who clearly only read 3 posts the entire game

 

[Lindltaylor]

Yes, but you're not seeing my point. While you may not actually be solving the game for the Town, as scum, you'd want to maintain at least the appearance of doing so. So using your established Town meta as a point in your favour doesn't really work, because by mentioning it you demonstrate that you are aware of it, and by being aware of it, you then possess the ability to appear to be following said meta, without actually following said meta. While solving the game itself is hard to do as scum (not impossible, especially with multiple scum factions present), presenting yourself as solving the game while not actually solving the game isn't just possible, it's intrinsic to playing as scum. It's er, it's kinda the point lol.
But I don't agree that I'm throwing shade, nor do I feel like I've given an activity excuse. I feel like my reasoning here is sound - your read was weak and poorly founded, and ultimately didn't even really serve as a read, because it boiled down to "well he could be town, but he may be scum too". It tells us nothing, and is exactly the kind of faux-contribution I'm looking for when hunting for scum, especially active scum. Your defence of it was "well it was page 1, so of course it was weak and poorly-founded". But here lies the rub. I don't see why, as town, you would feel any reason to make that read. As scum, I could see it being you trying to find town reads to latch onto, but town have next to no motivation to invest reasons to give town reads,as opposed to them coming naturally.

It's one of the biggest difference in how a townie approaches the game and how scum approach the game. And so, even if you may not agree to my point in terms of it being scummy, dismissing and downplaying my argument as "shade" is both disingenuous and sloppy, and it's within this defence that my impression of you in this game goes from "awkward early posts, potentially scum" to "rambling, waffley defence of behaviour that is pretty cut and dry". And that, Usopp, is a more developed scum read.

Vote: Ekkologix

Hard hard hard town read for Ratchet. This is the only guy I'll follow for the rest of the game.

Aight, this is Town Ratchet.

Exactly! You read him well.

 

[Fujishiro]

@Lindltaylor on our bond, you wouldn't lie to me would you?

Are you town this game?

If so who do you wanna vote, let's get this shit started.

 

[Flower]

thats too fast of a read to someone who clearly only read 3 posts the entire game

Have you ever seen him post Text walls as scum?

 

[Ratchet]

do u actually read my posts?

like seriously do u?

all u said is not happening this game

How is this a defence? I haven't taken anything out of context, in fact quite the opposite is true - the context is right there, quoted directly within the posts themselves. You can't just tell me it's not happening. Like what do you expect me to say here? "Oh sorry Usopp, disregard what I just said, you're right, no you don't need to establish what you're saying at all". I can understand not wanting to go mano-a-mano with me, I wouldn't want to go back and forth with me in Mafia either, but if you aren't going to defend my points then I can only assume that you're conceding them, in which case, I'm pretty happy to push on with your lynch. So you know, for your next post, either refute what I'm saying or explain it with the appropriate context.

 

[Zemmi]

Vote Count
(correct me if wrong)

@oddoddfruit - @Ekkologix
@Fruitji - @Light D Lamperouge
@Ekkologix - @oddoddfruit
@Wris - Unvote
@Van - @Flower
@Melontonin - @AL sama
@Rhea - @AL sama
@Dragomir - @Xlaw
@AL sama - @Ekkologix
@Flower - @Light D Lamperouge
@T-Pein™ - @Xlaw
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE - @Ekkologix
@Light D Lamperouge - @Rhea
@Ratchet - @Ekkologix

@Ekkologix - 4
@AL sama -2
@Xlaw -2
@Light D Lamperouge -2
@oddoddfruit -1
@Flower -1
@Rhea - 1

It takes 10 to lynch
Approx: 6 hours remaining​

 

[Fujishiro]

Have you ever seen him post Text walls as scum?

Kinda, Rej's game near the end.

 

[Emil]

Have you ever seen him post Text walls as scum?

yea wasnt he in rej's game?

its not about the text wall, every1 can text wall
its about its content

this man only read 3 of my posts and makes up the whole rest of the story then drops the vote
wuda been better if he just voted without this fabrication and slander

 

[Flower]

yea wasnt he in rej's game?

its not about the text wall, every1 can text wall
its about its content

this man only read 3 of my posts and makes up the whole rest of the story then drops the vote
wuda been better if he just voted without this fabrication and slander

You just scum read him because he scum reads you.