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“Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!”
― Donquixote Doflamingo

this quate shows me that Oda knows how world trully works, like you and me
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times were different and perception of world were so as well. but You still wouldnt have intercouse with a child you saved. as I said before Im Pagan. the only morals we have are to respect nature the most and one another.... times were different for sure, but aint allmighty hold justice for all times? if one thing was just than it should be law now too....
thats top 3 quotes material right here
 
SPOILERS' EXPLAINATION

Details of what Queen said:

- We cut to Sanji and Queen. Queen gets up after the attack from previous chapter. Sanji mentions that Queen is unharmed from hell's memories. "I put all I had into it!"
- Queen: My durability wouldn't let you win. There is only a few who are tougher than this cyborg body of mine! You have met one yourself earlier, right Vinsmoke? That idiot who was with me. Sanji is keenly interested.
- Queen tells Sanji that King is a survivor of the "Lunarian race ", that was wiped out long time ago. Queen adds that King is a monster that can survive in any environmental condition in the world. Back in time, the Lunarian race were called "Gods"!! Kaido-san was interested in the strength that rivalled to his own.
- Sanji: Why were they wiped out? Who did that?
- Queen: Ask him yourself!!
- Queen attacks and send sanji to a wall.
 

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thats top 3 quotes material right here
thats why I love doflamingo too, it shows that Oda understands how world works, like blackbeard who knows ther is no real evil or good... I was growing up in an environment that would be considered too harsh for civilised people too , I see world in different light, and I dont understand how man got so weak... so thats why I liked that story you told.... people right now are easy to give up
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Nah man I don't think so
That's a very bad outlook on life
no.... the only only good outlook is the one where you judge good and evil youself
 
times were different and perception of world were so as well. but You still wouldnt have intercouse with a child you saved. as I said before Im Pagan. the only morals we have are to respect nature the most and one another.... times were different for sure, but aint allmighty hold justice for all times? if one thing was just than it should be law now too.
he didn't have intercourse after directly comon he waited for her to hit Puberty and grow for couple of years till she coukd bear a child..

how can you call that lustful
whats is so unjust about waiting for someone to hit Puberty to have sex with them as your wife ofc.. comon now
 

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he didn't have intercourse after directly comon he waited for her to hit Puberty and grow for couple of years till she coukd bear a child..

how can you call that lustful
whats is so unjust about waiting for someone to hit Puberty to have sex with them as your wife ofc.. comon now
If your doughter was 12 you would let her go wild right?
 

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yea he sounds like an angle acts like a demon... heavily demon for a reason.

i agree that he had experience with cruelty of life but his actions are not morally justified
hes a villian though lol. but I agree he could of been better villian if he acted according to hes beliefs rather than pure sadistic brutallity
 
If your doughter was 12 you would let her go wild right?
the times are different AGAIN even if she huts Puberty i'd wait till she grows and studies..

i don't have to worry about wars and bearing children..

and again you have a very sexualized approach to it.. not a marital one.. he didn't force her to have sex anyway.. besides it was on her own accord with her parent knowing that fact.. i don't get whats unjust here.. if he was lustful he he would have done it استغفر الله but he wasn't.

again you're applying liberal morals to ancient norms and standards. they don't come hand in hand
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This doesn't justify his actions. He is scum through and through.
truly.. knowing the consequences and the pain inflicted he sought out to be king and be the sole reason why kids experience war.. and not peace... that was his justice.. demonic justice
 

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the times are different AGAIN even if she huts Puberty i'd wait till she grows and studies..

i don't have to worry about wars and bearing children..

and again you have a very sexualized approach to it.. not a marital one.. he didn't force her to have sex anyway.. besides it was on her own accord with her parent knowing that fact.. i don't get whats unjust here.. if he was lustful he he would have done it استغفر الله but he wasn't.

again you're applying liberal morals to ancient norms and standards. they don't come hand in hand
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truly.. knowing the consequences and the pain inflicted he sought out to be king and be the sole reason why kids experience war.. and not peace... that was his justice.. demonic justice
that means norms should be the same, as god knows better... or god changed the law or liberals did ? if liberals did than its allright to fuck 12 years old girl... we are not monkeys but we can allways live by monkey laws
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Bruh
Sometimes you cringe af
did god changed the laws ?
 
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