Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

[Luslec]

I always believed in Chaden


Laido

 

[SHIHI]

No, Moria was simply delusional and stupid for thinking a bunch of undeads could defeat Kaido. Doesn't mean his "weaker' crew is weak at all.

But he said something along the lines of “ If I had this crew I would have not lost to Kaido”

Even if he had lost with the Zombie crew. “HE” implies that Crew that was defeated by the straw hats at thriller bark are > his original crew.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

So kaido admitted that Oden was superior
LOLOL

No
He admitted Oden would have won 5 years ago since his crew was way weaker

 

[Blackbeard]

Title: Oden vs Kaidou Oden & the 9 scabbards head towards Orochi's castle to take down Kaidou. We see both Kaidou & a scared Orochi "I'll defeat this one alone" Oden says as he challenges Kaidou. The 9 scabbards battle against both Kaidou's and Orochi's armies. The majority of Kaidou's forces were lost in his battle against Moria but King and the others are okay and they overwhelm the red scabbards. Oden and Kaidou are evenly matched with both covered in wounds. Kaidou's underling captures momonouske and attempts to kill him right before Oden's eyes. Oden tries to save momo and thus lets his guard down, which results in him taking the full brunt of Kaidou's Raimei Hakke. "If it was 5 years ago, you'd have won this battle", says Kaidou Kaidou and Orochi both realized that they were at a disadvantage against Oden 5 years ago, so in order to avoid that, they tricked Oden into a dodgy contract.

So it's canonically confirmed Oden > FB Kaido

 

[Chrono]

So kaido admitted that Oden was superior
LOLOL

No that his forces were more superior. Not Oden himself being stronger.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

See the Fight was Even lol


Oden wasn't dominating

 

[King7]

Let that Moria part be true .... stop the nonsense that Kaido soloed him and his crew

 

[Patryipe]

No
He admitted Oden would have won 5 years ago since his crew was way weaker

ROTFL nothing to do about the crew. Oden fought Kaido directly LOL.

 

[Chrono]

See the Fight was Even lol


Oden wasn't dominating

Purriidiet.

Swallowers swallowing dumb facts as usual

 

[Dark Admiral]

5 years ago, meaning when Roger was still alive and kicking...so they feared maybe Roger would take on the stage himself if anything is to happen to his Nakama Oden..!!

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Damn, it's much worse than I thought.


Fraudo indeed.

@Admiral Lee Hung, @Light D Lamperouge I hereby renounce my remaining Yonkou wank and wholly pledge myself to the Sword & Admiral alliance.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Wow surprise, a Crewmember of Roger, the Pirate King himself, which was also called brother by Whitebeard, seems to be stronger then kaido. That really is your Problem? Even tho it is not even clear Oden would have easy or mid diffed won, because they didnt even go all out both, so far we know.

Fight about life and death whiteout going all out? Ok, let's end this we both don't understand each other. I hope you really enjoy this and I hope that you right about one piece but for me it was dead since the beginning of Wano arc. Big Mom's amnesia, Queen not throwing Big mom into the woter despite the fact that Bog mom is their enemy and Kaido was ready to kill her, and now this shit. I hoped that things will change, I hoped that Wano still can be great during the war etc. But this is the lost thing I can bear I can't wach a story in which things and actions of characters have no logical sense.

 

[Reign]

I think theres no shaming in Kaido admitting that Oden would've defeated him 5 years ago. In fact this shows Kaido really is growing in strength in those 5 years.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

So it's canonically confirmed Oden > FB Kaido

Kaido admitted Oden was Superior....


5 years ago lol

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Oden was strong enough to solo both Kaido and Orochi 5 years ago?

This is getting ridiculous

 

[Shura]

Title: Oden vs Kaidou Oden & the 9 scabbards head towards Orochi's castle to take down Kaidou. We see both Kaidou & a scared Orochi "I'll defeat this one alone" Oden says as he challenges Kaidou. The 9 scabbards battle against both Kaidou's and Orochi's armies. The majority of Kaidou's forces were lost in his battle against Moria but King and the others are okay and they overwhelm the red scabbards. Oden and Kaidou are evenly matched with both covered in wounds. Kaidou's underling captures momonouske and attempts to kill him right before Oden's eyes. Oden tries to save momo and thus lets his guard down, which results in him taking the full brunt of Kaidou's Raimei Hakke. "If it was 5 years ago, you'd have won this battle", says Kaidou Kaidou and Orochi both realized that they were at a disadvantage against Oden 5 years ago, so in order to avoid that, they tricked Oden into a dodgy contract.

Okay this is interesting.....

few things...

Kaido was way weaker 5 years before Oden....
Oden signed some dodgy contract (wondering what it is).....

Anyways finally getting some character moments for Kaido....guess he is not one dimensional muscle head like many thought....he also plays dirty...good to know....

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

See the Fight was Even lol


Oden wasn't dominating

Nah the translation part with the old hag still stands, if she wouldn´t be their Kaido und his troup would have big trouble with even Kaido admire.

 

[Blackbeard]

People who said Kaido's going to beat Oden fairly are finally eating their own words at last

 

[Shura]

Oden was strong enough to solo both Kaido and Orochi 5 years ago?

This is getting ridiculous

why though??...Kaidou should not be weaker than someone and grow to the point he is where now??.....

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Do people even read the damn thing?

Oden and Kaido fought evenly
It wasn't a stomp!

Retainers got beaten by Kaido crew.

Kaido admitted Oden would have if it was 5 yeardls ago
We know Kaido is weak 20 years ago, so 25 yeats ago he is even weaker.

Oden was foolish indeed, the dude could have saved wano long ago if he didnt fall for the trap.

Also Beating this verison of retainers isnt impressive. Only Ashura and Denjiro were low high tiers at best.
Current top 4 retainers (Dukes Denjiro ashura ) are able to tag calamities 1vs 1.


Anyway
Kaido didnt get dehype that much except the distraction W