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Some might be exceptions, but I’m talking about these endgame characters. Only makes sense that the mc’s the one beating everyone, Zoro included if they really fought seriously. Zoro himself will never bend his knee to follow someone weaker than him (he said these at least a number of times) so I don’t get how Zorostans can honestly believe he’s above Luffy.
This argument is foolish.

Luyffy in all of One Piece has never been a tier above Zoro the people Luffy & Zoro has beaten comes down to either matchup or PIS.

We can break down each fight and see that there are characters Zoro has beaten in certain arcs that Luffy can't beat. i.e. Mr.1.

You thinking Luffy is going to be on some GodTier and Zoro is going to be below is stupid, this arc literally put that to bed.

Luffy Fans : Zoro will never get AdvCoC maybe EOS but not now

Oda : literally 5 mins time span in the OP world Zoro unlocks AdvCoC.

Luffy and Zoro are relative to each other its a shame we have to go through this every single time.
 
After 100 chapters of getting neg diffed

Zoro awakened the same powerup as luffy
And before he got the powerups he scarred Kaido

Zoro has always had an easier time in his fights then Luffy throughout the story. Zoro has always gotten significant feats throughout arcs. Zoro is a clear parallel to shanks and Rogers crews where the right hands are partners. Zoro has the same level of mythic figure as his shadow as Luffy. Zoro and Luffy share several similar antagonistic threats throughout the story.

If by this point you don’t get it then oh well. Suit urself. I’m not gonna fight you anymore. You srsly believe in Luffy supremacy clear above all in the crew.
I never said luffy is superior I just said he’s the strongest? Captains are THE STRONGEST IN THEIR CREW. That’s a fact?

and luffy didn’t get negged diffed the last time they fought.

if I had to level luffy it would be luffy 95 Zoro 90 / 93

yes Zoro unlocked the same thing as luffy.
Luffy split the skies with kaido a feat only yonkos done. But y’all downplay that too the moon Tho? If Zoro did that tho y’all would eat it up
 
I never said luffy is superior I just said he’s the strongest? Captains are THE STRONGEST IN THEIR CREW. That’s a fact?

and luffy didn’t get negged diffed the last time they fought.

if I had to level luffy it would be luffy 95 Zoro 90 / 93

yes Zoro unlocked the same thing as luffy.
Luffy split the skies with kaido a feat only yonkos done. But y’all downplay that too the moon Tho? If Zoro did that tho y’all would eat it up
Aight thats fair
My fault for calling u stupid
 
A pretty much fresh King vs an exhausted Zoro fight ended in 3/4/5 minutes after Zoro learned AdCoC? It's impossible to compare with Kaido vs Luffy because
a) Kaido is stronger
b) Kaido is exhausted
c) Luffy is fresh
d) Luffy is on his 2nd AdCoC boost
These fights have completely different rotations, but if you damage King you can hurt Kaido, damaging Kaido doesn't mean you can hurt King. :endthis:
 
That's the obsession I am talking about
Why does Luffy fans want Luffy to be above Zoro?
Why does he have to be 95? Why can't he be 100?
As I said, my friend. There's a narrative barrier that Oda can't surpass. And that's not bad and for sure this is not my opinion. The main story is about Luffy. Zoro being the second strongest is a great thing.

It's not about Luffy fans wanting something or not. It's a matter of fact of the story. The main character will ever be the main character, and there's nothing wrong with it. Zoro is still being cool, a great swordman :goyea:
 
Shaking? He wasn’t shaking. He swept that attack off like everything else. Was laughing the next page.
All I’m saying is Zoro won’t fight bb or Imu.
He's doesn't need to fight them to be relative, especially if Zoro is above the likes of Shanks & Mihawk doesn't get anymore OP than that.

Kaido is shaking pay attention to the lines around him.
 
4 Jack level characters could stop an admiral and at least stall them

Don't forget that there's still the leader who's likely Admiral level
Mother Caramel implied Admirals > CP0 when discussing Big Mom’s potential:

And Robin, who knows about CP0, heavily implied that the admirals are the strongest fighters in the entire world government structure when they encountered Aokiji.
 
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