[FNZ] Salem of Lies ToS - Christmas Special
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Literally only 2 townies were top 10 posters. When threadplay is so dominated by scum, it would take a miracle for town to win this game.
Also, I can't believe I surpassed Usopp as the top poster of the entire game. @Ekkologix
Also one other thing I want to mention. I have hosted/coached countless ToS games pretty much every single one since I became a coach back on OJ. I never really bother with frame like roles because they NEVER pay off, but @Don DaSlayer landed them back to back from the start 
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@AL sama I am confident that I could have lynched you with that case if I really wanted to. The case itself being weak is irrelevant. It's how you push it that matters. Push it right and you can get anybody lynched no matter how weak a case is. You ghosting the thread after a while and coming in late in the phase made things worse for you too.
Death Note -
The town's hoe here.
N1 - AL
N2 - Light
Cinera confirmed town, second blocker on AL who flipped Mafia so no Consort possibility
T-Pein & Enryu confirmed. Rej's probably town with his spite against T-pein
Odd's probably scum, the pirate wild-goose chase fits his scum meta of playing his own game. Pretty irrelevant thing to concentrate on, mostly just a way to navigate the game. Also tying down the transporters into his plan and wasting resources. He softed doc which I don't buy 'cause to reckless, might be just a setup for later claiming it.
Lhuzu scum I think. Just caught up on D1 and they had only few posts from my last check up. Still doesn't fit the tone of a newbie that's uninformed and actually lost. Seems more in control and aware of things, not playing loose or innocently enough me think. Might be the coaching
Light's definitely scum lol. He's just playing a clean game, with the facilitating and mostly bland questioning. Absolutely no real conviction or drive into his game, it's mostly trying to fit the mold and reach consensus like with Al's lynch and his pleading to get it rolling. Even his pushes are toothless, little bit shading but opening a dialogue trying to not really offend so that they don't "no u". (#1,127 & #1,394) Latter is always a scum post, book it
Update:
N3: Ratchet
- Kill Gambit: Alibaba flipping Arso makes it 6 confirmed Indies. If no double-action from a Pirate on N1, it's 7 confirmed. Kill Gambit, he's likely scum here and not survivor. Plus his post quoting Ryu's read on me being maybe Coven scum irked me, very weird pick amongst all the reads and from a survivor on top of that. Big chances of Coven here.
- Arso obviously doesn't get invested as guilty. However, if hexed, they'd show up as Guilty. Alibaba's outing Don and backing Lhuzu is weird. There is something missing since if he showed up guilty to her, he was hexed, and he should know who the hex master is. Unless it's Don but ehh. Same for claimed attacks on him attributed to Don, we already have Mafia/Coven x2/Juggernaut accounted for attacks + one on me. One interesting bit of his DN is that he mentions "Lhuzu being framed" which might a slip that no one else visited him, and he thinks she got the wrong results due to a interference on her part which isn't possible. There is a world here where she's Consig, got Arso results and doesn't know they show up as not guilty to sheriff. There is no dead chat in between night results and during day.
- I don't like the attention Midnight's claim got from Drago and a few others. They should know better, and it doesn't feel genuine. Lot of feigning ignorance, dude is a pretty big troll and Rej's DN attest to a 5-head plan coming from him. Plus the hypnotist thingy being him because he targeted TAC allegedly doesn't hold water as TAC was transed at least once, so it'd have went to the person he was bus driven with.
- I maintien the Ryu town lean. Second invest is very likely here, and the block fits a consort on his ass. Early claim and sus on Doc while dumb, seemed genuine.
- Still maintaining the Odd & Light scum reads, ISO me for that.
- For D3, if no Vig kill (or 1 vig kill but claimed by living player), round up the blocked players as potential Necromancer.
- Amongst the 15 "Rest" players, we have a Jailor and Retri that can confirm themselves. That leaves 13 players, and you'll probably find 8/9 scum there. If I get the energy this DN will receive another update with a rainbow after re-reading a bit, if not godspeed my fellow townies.
I'm probably getting vigged by Necro tonight aren't I? :tiredpepe
The town's hoe here.
N1 - AL
N2 - Light
Cinera confirmed town, second blocker on AL who flipped Mafia so no Consort possibility
T-Pein & Enryu confirmed. Rej's probably town with his spite against T-pein
Odd's probably scum, the pirate wild-goose chase fits his scum meta of playing his own game. Pretty irrelevant thing to concentrate on, mostly just a way to navigate the game. Also tying down the transporters into his plan and wasting resources. He softed doc which I don't buy 'cause to reckless, might be just a setup for later claiming it.
Lhuzu scum I think. Just caught up on D1 and they had only few posts from my last check up. Still doesn't fit the tone of a newbie that's uninformed and actually lost. Seems more in control and aware of things, not playing loose or innocently enough me think. Might be the coaching
Light's definitely scum lol. He's just playing a clean game, with the facilitating and mostly bland questioning. Absolutely no real conviction or drive into his game, it's mostly trying to fit the mold and reach consensus like with Al's lynch and his pleading to get it rolling. Even his pushes are toothless, little bit shading but opening a dialogue trying to not really offend so that they don't "no u". (#1,127 & #1,394) Latter is always a scum post, book it
Update:
N3: Ratchet
Living Players: [26/35]
Notification Claims:
Night 1:
Alibaba --> Pirated + Transed
Al Sama --> Blocked x2
Wanji ---> Blocked
TAC ---> Transed + Blocked
Ekko ---> Transed
Enryu ---> Transed
Night 2:
Light ---> Transed + Blocked
Odd ---> Transed + Blocked
TAC ---> Transed x2
Drago ---> Blocked
Ryu ---> Blocked
Nova ---> Attacked*
1 Pirate target missing compared to N1** Coven 2 kills accounted for + Mafia & Juggernaut kills.
*No one claimed double action, so assuming scum had a double action. Could be either CL or Mafia 'cause CL's second target don't get controlled according to Zem
**Could be double action
Mech Confirmed:
RippedCal --- [Crusader]
Enryu --- [Transporter] --- N1: TAC/Alibaba ; N2: Light/Odd + Invest Cinera
Cinera --- [Escort]*--- N1: Al Sma ; N2: ?
*Blocked GF
Claimed:
Midnight --- [Escort / Transporter] --- N1: No Action ; N2: TAC/Light ---> 5head
Lhululuzao --- [Sheriff] --- N1: No Action / N2: Alibaba --> Guilty
Ryu Kishi --- [Investigator] --- N1: Professor ; N2: Failed Action - [Can't Be Potion Master]
TheAncientCenturion --- [Juggernaut] --- N1: Don ; N2: Grandmaster Zoro ---> Turned Town?
Don DaSlayer --- [Veteran] --- N1: Nothing ; N2: Alerted
krogothwolf --- [Pirate] ---
Gambit --- [Survivor] --- KILL THIS DUDE
Rest: 15 peeps --> 1 Jailor & 1 Retri that can confirm themselves. Probably 8/9 scum around distributed between Coven/Mafia
Solis - My Jailor pick. Think his D2 might be demotivation after misexecuting
Juliet - GTH town
Destroya - GTH town --> No u on peeps dropping his name frequently felt town, apathy probably due to the mech heaviness
Wanji - Fairly townie vibe in the rare thread appearances. Need much more, angle-shooting him as consort target of N1 'cause Al blocked twice and GF, if 2 escort/2 consorts.
Prince of Darkness - Early claim to clear themselves felt genuine with no pressure. RippedCarl can shed light on the slot
Ekkologix - Not associated with Light, that's for sure. One nitpick is that he seems very reactive to the thread flow, expecting more drive rather than half-baked theories that he doesn't seem to actually believe and push. Mentioned his EP earlier that I hated. Was alright D1 though.
Kagura - Neutral hell here. Above peeps look slightly better so with ratio in mind she's yellow-ish. Thought her response to prods and stubbornness on D1 was alright
Nick - Meh, no major pings here. Drago fixation seems slightly a bit too rigid. GTH bad on Conquistador's entry post. Edited image not followed by anything during the EP seemed odd to me, think a townie with that entrance has a little bit more energy and enthusiasm following it up.
Lind - Mixed feelings here. There is an uneasy vibe I'm getting of his handling of the game, has a bit of a formal tone and cold attitude that I think might fit a deep-wolfing scum here. Think the Nick handling, and the conclusion he reached on Light based on 2 pretty bland questions were meh + Soft Hinting Non-Visiting Role
Dragoban - Was townie throughout D1 but his handling of the claims during D2 rubbed me wrong. Think he should know better than what he did with Midnight, the latter is a pretty trolly player and he was basically feigning ignorance to reach some conclusions and keep acting confused. Same goes for his handling of the TAC early claims, having trouble buying all that doubt. + Can't be Potion Master
Sallucion - Allegedly has an invest shot, that should be helpful
Xlaw - Probably Al's teammate
Ratchet - Didn't really like the handling of Drago & Professor dude. Former felt like very nitpicky reason and gives the vibe of going after a vocal thread presence and derailing them. Don't care much for the having too many scum reads ping, and it didn't feel completely honest as there was a degree of certitude behind them, and it wasn't a player salad with Drago being ok with any lynch amongst them. Professor's back & forth about claiming was a big nothingburger
Light D Lamperouge - See my ISO + Soft Hinting Tracker + Can't be Potion Master*
oddoddfruit - See my ISO + Can't be Potion Master
*Escort has to confirm blocking Odd on N2 which transed to Light. My block hit Odd due to Enryu.
Notification Claims:
Night 1:
Alibaba --> Pirated + Transed
Al Sama --> Blocked x2
Wanji ---> Blocked
TAC ---> Transed + Blocked
Ekko ---> Transed
Enryu ---> Transed
Night 2:
Light ---> Transed + Blocked
Odd ---> Transed + Blocked
TAC ---> Transed x2
Drago ---> Blocked
Ryu ---> Blocked
Nova ---> Attacked*
1 Pirate target missing compared to N1** Coven 2 kills accounted for + Mafia & Juggernaut kills.
*No one claimed double action, so assuming scum had a double action. Could be either CL or Mafia 'cause CL's second target don't get controlled according to Zem
**Could be double action
Mech Confirmed:
RippedCal --- [Crusader]
Enryu --- [Transporter] --- N1: TAC/Alibaba ; N2: Light/Odd + Invest Cinera
Cinera --- [Escort]*--- N1: Al Sma ; N2: ?
*Blocked GF
Claimed:
Midnight --- [Escort / Transporter] --- N1: No Action ; N2: TAC/Light ---> 5head
Lhululuzao --- [Sheriff] --- N1: No Action / N2: Alibaba --> Guilty
Ryu Kishi --- [Investigator] --- N1: Professor ; N2: Failed Action - [Can't Be Potion Master]
TheAncientCenturion --- [Juggernaut] --- N1: Don ; N2: Grandmaster Zoro ---> Turned Town?
Don DaSlayer --- [Veteran] --- N1: Nothing ; N2: Alerted
krogothwolf --- [Pirate] ---
Gambit --- [Survivor] --- KILL THIS DUDE
Rest: 15 peeps --> 1 Jailor & 1 Retri that can confirm themselves. Probably 8/9 scum around distributed between Coven/Mafia
Solis - My Jailor pick. Think his D2 might be demotivation after misexecuting
Juliet - GTH town
Destroya - GTH town --> No u on peeps dropping his name frequently felt town, apathy probably due to the mech heaviness
Wanji - Fairly townie vibe in the rare thread appearances. Need much more, angle-shooting him as consort target of N1 'cause Al blocked twice and GF, if 2 escort/2 consorts.
Prince of Darkness - Early claim to clear themselves felt genuine with no pressure. RippedCarl can shed light on the slot
Ekkologix - Not associated with Light, that's for sure. One nitpick is that he seems very reactive to the thread flow, expecting more drive rather than half-baked theories that he doesn't seem to actually believe and push. Mentioned his EP earlier that I hated. Was alright D1 though.
Kagura - Neutral hell here. Above peeps look slightly better so with ratio in mind she's yellow-ish. Thought her response to prods and stubbornness on D1 was alright
Nick - Meh, no major pings here. Drago fixation seems slightly a bit too rigid. GTH bad on Conquistador's entry post. Edited image not followed by anything during the EP seemed odd to me, think a townie with that entrance has a little bit more energy and enthusiasm following it up.
Lind - Mixed feelings here. There is an uneasy vibe I'm getting of his handling of the game, has a bit of a formal tone and cold attitude that I think might fit a deep-wolfing scum here. Think the Nick handling, and the conclusion he reached on Light based on 2 pretty bland questions were meh + Soft Hinting Non-Visiting Role
Dragoban - Was townie throughout D1 but his handling of the claims during D2 rubbed me wrong. Think he should know better than what he did with Midnight, the latter is a pretty trolly player and he was basically feigning ignorance to reach some conclusions and keep acting confused. Same goes for his handling of the TAC early claims, having trouble buying all that doubt. + Can't be Potion Master
Sallucion - Allegedly has an invest shot, that should be helpful
Xlaw - Probably Al's teammate
Ratchet - Didn't really like the handling of Drago & Professor dude. Former felt like very nitpicky reason and gives the vibe of going after a vocal thread presence and derailing them. Don't care much for the having too many scum reads ping, and it didn't feel completely honest as there was a degree of certitude behind them, and it wasn't a player salad with Drago being ok with any lynch amongst them. Professor's back & forth about claiming was a big nothingburger
Light D Lamperouge - See my ISO + Soft Hinting Tracker + Can't be Potion Master*
oddoddfruit - See my ISO + Can't be Potion Master
*Escort has to confirm blocking Odd on N2 which transed to Light. My block hit Odd due to Enryu.
- Kill Gambit: Alibaba flipping Arso makes it 6 confirmed Indies. If no double-action from a Pirate on N1, it's 7 confirmed. Kill Gambit, he's likely scum here and not survivor. Plus his post quoting Ryu's read on me being maybe Coven scum irked me, very weird pick amongst all the reads and from a survivor on top of that. Big chances of Coven here.
- Arso obviously doesn't get invested as guilty. However, if hexed, they'd show up as Guilty. Alibaba's outing Don and backing Lhuzu is weird. There is something missing since if he showed up guilty to her, he was hexed, and he should know who the hex master is. Unless it's Don but ehh. Same for claimed attacks on him attributed to Don, we already have Mafia/Coven x2/Juggernaut accounted for attacks + one on me. One interesting bit of his DN is that he mentions "Lhuzu being framed" which might a slip that no one else visited him, and he thinks she got the wrong results due to a interference on her part which isn't possible. There is a world here where she's Consig, got Arso results and doesn't know they show up as not guilty to sheriff. There is no dead chat in between night results and during day.
- I don't like the attention Midnight's claim got from Drago and a few others. They should know better, and it doesn't feel genuine. Lot of feigning ignorance, dude is a pretty big troll and Rej's DN attest to a 5-head plan coming from him. Plus the hypnotist thingy being him because he targeted TAC allegedly doesn't hold water as TAC was transed at least once, so it'd have went to the person he was bus driven with.
- I maintien the Ryu town lean. Second invest is very likely here, and the block fits a consort on his ass. Early claim and sus on Doc while dumb, seemed genuine.
- Still maintaining the Odd & Light scum reads, ISO me for that.
- For D3, if no Vig kill (or 1 vig kill but claimed by living player), round up the blocked players as potential Necromancer.
- Amongst the 15 "Rest" players, we have a Jailor and Retri that can confirm themselves. That leaves 13 players, and you'll probably find 8/9 scum there. If I get the energy this DN will receive another update with a rainbow after re-reading a bit, if not godspeed my fellow townies.
I'm probably getting vigged by Necro tonight aren't I? :tiredpepe
Here is a list of all the words I used. If something was forced to be said by the host by a pr, it didn't count.
Good Night
Phone
Funny
Protect
Roll
Trust
Pizza
Santa
Stocking
Elves
Grinch
eggnog
duel
bestie
Challenge
Past
Music
Josad emoji
Muugen
False
Bloody
Home
Shottie
MVP
Peaky Blinders
Towniest
bb
Aggressive
Sheep
cfd
oops
fire
burn
random
Betrayed
thank you
Survivor
dreamworks
knowledge
fuuk linda
wagon
calm
scum buddies
engaging
reaction
hesitate
luck
deathnote
quite
give up
holidays
Angel
jack frost
naughty
popcorn
scrooge
vacation
detrimental
sad
angry
confused
jolly
jingle
tree
peace
christmas
ToS
Holy
Snow
Winter
Warm
Evening
Morning
Chimney
jacket
boots
Present
Ribbom
dream
Phone
Funny
Protect
Roll
Trust
Pizza
Santa
Stocking
Elves
Grinch
eggnog
duel
bestie
Challenge
Past
Music
Josad emoji
Muugen
False
Bloody
Home
Shottie
MVP
Peaky Blinders
Towniest
bb
Aggressive
Sheep
cfd
oops
fire
burn
random
Betrayed
thank you
Survivor
dreamworks
knowledge
fuuk linda
wagon
calm
scum buddies
engaging
reaction
hesitate
luck
deathnote
quite
give up
holidays
Angel
jack frost
naughty
popcorn
scrooge
vacation
detrimental
sad
angry
confused
jolly
jingle
tree
peace
christmas
ToS
Holy
Snow
Winter
Warm
Evening
Morning
Chimney
jacket
boots
Present
Ribbom
dream
Game throwing
lunch
pages
wait
scum hunt
ptsd
plan
weebs
cooking
second
posts a meme
fuck
stupid
hosts
mates
bet
ban
never
love
waiting
school
town core
drunk
bruh
bro
quit
retire
off topic
unfair
boring
block
watch me
???
garbage
goat
sub
rip
wiki
indies
defensive
summary
flavor
example
angle shooting
bait
modkill
catching up
skeptic
sus
context
begging
obviously
yeet
stop
epiphany
fruit cake
magic
nice
xmas
embaressed
fail
disaster
shame
hot
gift
carols
cookie
decoration
evil
cold
frozen
hate
ice
bad
summer
killer
lunch
pages
wait
scum hunt
ptsd
plan
weebs
cooking
second
posts a meme
fuck
stupid
hosts
mates
bet
ban
never
love
waiting
school
town core
drunk
bruh
bro
quit
retire
off topic
unfair
boring
block
watch me
???
garbage
goat
sub
rip
wiki
indies
defensive
summary
flavor
example
angle shooting
bait
modkill
catching up
skeptic
sus
context
begging
obviously
yeet
stop
epiphany
fruit cake
magic
nice
xmas
embaressed
fail
disaster
shame
hot
gift
carols
cookie
decoration
evil
cold
frozen
hate
ice
bad
summer
killer
hohoho
oro jackson
god (mom, mommie mother ect)
Mentioning only one host
Santa's workshop
deck the halls
North Pole
Candy Cane
Reference to flower being scum
coffee
oro jackson
god (mom, mommie mother ect)
Mentioning only one host
Santa's workshop
deck the halls
North Pole
Candy Cane
Reference to flower being scum
coffee
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