Questions & Mysteries Will Oda ever give us a direct answer for Zoro vs Law?

#1
So I am well aware that this site is something of an echochamber for the most fervent zoro fans, but outside this small community, Zoro vs Law is something that is debated on by a majority of the forum. A significant amount of reddit users believe that Law>Zoro as Law is Luffy's rival, has a higher bounty, and defeated an emperor whereas Zoro simply defeated King.

Regardless of what your opinions are on Zoro vs Law, in order for Zoro to be the WSSM, Oda needs to do one of these things:
  • directly and unequivocally show that Zoro> Law
    • by having Zoro either defeat Law outright, defeat a much stronger opponent than Law's, or have Law state his inferiority
    • This isn't just something like Zoro using asura and Law making a soy face. It has to be something so significant that even non-zoro fans accept Zoro is stronger. After all, Oda isn't writing One piece just for the sake of Zoroboys on worstgen.
  • portray that Zoro isn't in competition with DF users like Law
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if later down the road, Law switches sides and tries to steal Luffy's poneglyph maps and we get Zoro vs Law to give us a definitive answer. But overall, by the end of one piece, Zoro vs Law shouldn't be up for debate. Either Zoro>Law, Law isn't in competition for WSSM because of his DF, or Zoro's title isn't definite.
 
#6
Yeah Law and Kid being used as hype up tools for BB Titanic captains seems very possible. Or being taken down by the admirals seems very likely as well.

But for the time being, Law is simply stronger since he has better current feats and portrayal but Zoro will outgrow him soon.
 
#9
all about how the swordsman title is handled with zoro but atm the moment law has received a feat and portrayal superior to that of zoro. if current form continues ,
oda might leave it ambiguous and fans will argue this wss bs come end of the story.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#10
So I am well aware that this site is something of an echochamber for the most fervent zoro fans, but outside this small community, Zoro vs Law is something that is debated on by a majority of the forum. A significant amount of reddit users believe that Law>Zoro as Law is Luffy's rival, has a higher bounty, and defeated an emperor whereas Zoro simply defeated King.
Yeah, this is also a debate here. Especially after Law's awakening was fully fleshed out against Linlin.

I think it's bound to happen that Zoro (potentially Sanji too) surpass Law/Kidd. I'm not sure they'll retain the same level of relevance now in a hundred chapters. Hell, Law went from arguably the second most important character in two arcs to slumming it with Zoro/Sanji in terms of screen time in Wano.

So my opinion is, it's inevitable that they'll fall behind because they aren't the MCs crew. Currently Law is stronger than Zoro and I have zero doubt he'd beat him in a fight, but Zoro has many more opportunities to grow stronger as well.
 
#11
Yeah, this is also a debate here. Especially after Law's awakening was fully fleshed out against Linlin.

I think it's bound to happen that Zoro (potentially Sanji too) surpass Law/Kidd. I'm not sure they'll retain the same level of relevance now in a hundred chapters. Hell, Law went from arguably the second most important character in two arcs to slumming it with Zoro/Sanji in terms of screen time in Wano.

So my opinion is, it's inevitable that they'll fall behind because they aren't the MCs crew. Currently Law is stronger than Zoro and I have zero doubt he'd beat him in a fight, but Zoro has many more opportunities to grow stronger as well.
law should follow the crew tho given his goal certainly wont be accomplished if he is on his own
and current trend of fighting opponents stronger than zoro's
might remain
big mom
doffy
 
#13
Yeah, this is also a debate here. Especially after Law's awakening was fully fleshed out against Linlin.

I think it's bound to happen that Zoro (potentially Sanji too) surpass Law/Kidd. I'm not sure they'll retain the same level of relevance now in a hundred chapters. Hell, Law went from arguably the second most important character in two arcs to slumming it with Zoro/Sanji in terms of screen time in Wano.

So my opinion is, it's inevitable that they'll fall behind because they aren't the MCs crew. Currently Law is stronger than Zoro and I have zero doubt he'd beat him in a fight, but Zoro has many more opportunities to grow stronger as well.
Zoro? Sure, he is the deuteragonist
but Kid and Law are objectively more important than Sanji. I believe it was even said, either by Oda or sanji's voice actor that WCI was sanji's big moment and that he won't ever be as important as he was in WCI.

Law is a D, which means that along with the rest of the D clan, he will have major relevance in the final war. Kid is going to become an emperor. He is a conqueror and he is one of the strongest pirates in the new world. He's definitely going to make a stand against Luffy and shanks, and he will likely lead a massive army of pirates in the final war(with teach and the rest of the yonko, bar maybe shanks, overthrown, Kid will be the 2nd most powerful captain after Luffy).
 
#17
I don't think we will ever get a Zoro vs. Law fight

But I really hate the way people's arguments are too simple: it's either they say Zoro is stronger because Law is a fellow swordsman or they say Law is stronger because he helped defeat a Yonko...both of those arguments have heavy flaws

1. Law's main skill isn't swordsmanship, his sword is just a tool through which to amplify his devil fruit abilities. Law is someone who really blurs the line of what it means to be a swordsman and who is included under the title of WSS

2. Even though Law had a hand in defeating BM, he has no real 1v1 feats outside of Vergo to actually give him credit for things he did entirely by himself. Every time I see someone bringing up the rooftop fight as a way to praise Zoro, one of the FIRST things you hear in rebuttal is that it was a group fight. Well, guess what? Law and Kid vs. BM was a group fight. Ya can't change the goal-posts like that and try to pick and choose what counts and what doesn't count. 'Cuz all I'm saying is, we saw how things went down when Zoro and Law got their chances against the same opponent for the first time.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#18
I said this before Wano started. This arc is a microchosm of EOS WG standings. There is no better time for Oda to cement WG pecking orders than in the arc that includes like 80% of them up against the highest stakes we've ever seen. There is no better time to cement Zoro > Law than in this arc, both carry named/cursed blades in a swordsman's arc, if Zoro and Law are debatable now in such a Zoro centric sword focused arc nothing is gonna change in the future as the opportunity to make that comparison doesn't get better than this. Law will slowly drift away to a lesser role and the chance for a direct comparison is gone. This was pretty much it.


And I think Zoro > Law is a legit claim, but the truth is Oda still didn't do enough to cement it, pre Big Mom vs Kidd and Law I thought he was on his way to doing so with the rooftop and all.

All this means is that this debate will never end, this is mostly due to the fact that we're dealing with hax vs strength here. And no Law is not bound to the WSS title, King already killed that debate. Oda does everything in his power to not give Law any swordsman related lore. Dude's fighting style is surgery before it's swordsmanship, so I need to see a canon verbal confirmation coming from Law before I box him into that category, especially now that we know it doesn't matter if you fight with a sword or not. You'd think in a sword focused arc we'd get something for Law, but the silence on that front and the complete focus on his df tells me Oda's not tryna box Law into it.
 
#19
So I am well aware that this site is something of an echochamber for the most fervent zoro fans, but outside this small community, Zoro vs Law is something that is debated on by a majority of the forum. A significant amount of reddit users believe that Law>Zoro as Law is Luffy's rival, has a higher bounty, and defeated an emperor whereas Zoro simply defeated King.

Regardless of what your opinions are on Zoro vs Law, in order for Zoro to be the WSSM, Oda needs to do one of these things:
  • directly and unequivocally show that Zoro> Law
    • by having Zoro either defeat Law outright, defeat a much stronger opponent than Law's, or have Law state his inferiority
    • This isn't just something like Zoro using asura and Law making a soy face. It has to be something so significant that even non-zoro fans accept Zoro is stronger. After all, Oda isn't writing One piece just for the sake of Zoroboys on worstgen.
  • portray that Zoro isn't in competition with DF users like Law
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if later down the road, Law switches sides and tries to steal Luffy's poneglyph maps and we get Zoro vs Law to give us a definitive answer. But overall, by the end of one piece, Zoro vs Law shouldn't be up for debate. Either Zoro>Law, Law isn't in competition for WSSM because of his DF, or Zoro's title isn't definite.
He wont give a definite answer, since WSS is a vague title as well. Nothing stops Law, currently a weaker swordsman than Zoro, to be a stronger fighter overall like it was shown right now, due to his mastery of Devil Fruit.
 
#20
With law's reaction when zoro used Ashura against kaido we know which one is the strongest of the two.
After the roof law showed awakening and zoro adv CoC which means that zoro grow even stronger and law showed a crazy unbelievable ap boost.
Zoro is definitely stronger than law but he could definitely loose against law in a fight.
I am leaning towards zoro to be the victor.
Don't worry zoro fans, haters only had two strong arguments about swordsmen and zoro.
First one was the king haki argument, that zoro completely destroyed after the fight with king.
Second one is the DF ability which is either going to be destroyed as well when Mihawk shows a df ability or we have to argue until zoro beat's Fuji or someone similar.
 
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