Chapter Discussion HAHAHAHAHAHA look at you now.

Naruto has faced ALL of the tailed beasts. That’s how I know you don’t watch or read Naruto cause you have no idea what you’re talking about

Yes it’s true Luffy advanced and developed the fruit due to creativity but Naruto also developed his own power. Ever heard of the Rasenshuriken?

Most devil fruits are NOT more superior to Luffy’s lol. Dude has the world government scared about his fruit awakening. Have you not read the latest chapter? Luffy has the power of 3 devil fruit abilities in one lol
1. His base is Paramecia
2. He can increase his strength and speed like a Zoan with his gears
3. With his awakening he has a Logia type melting power

Naruto faced more opponents than Luffy could ever dream of. Did you seriously make this comparison with a straight face? You don’t even want to go there bud and once again….naruto faced ALL tailed beasts

Yes Rasengan’s are Minato’s but Naruto created and improved on them with far greater potency. You act Like Luffy would have Gears is it wasn’t for CP9 giving him the idea’s. You also fail to understand if not for Rayleigh, Luffy would’ve not unlocked Gear 4th

Ace also inspired his red hawk attack btw. So much for his “creative fighting style”

Also this Sage mode argument is plain pathetic lol…you have characters like The first ho, Kabuto and Orochimaru who also use Sage Mode but you wanna pick on Naruto as a pitiful way to downplay….it’s not exclusive to them and uses Naruto’s own chakra supply, not Kurama’s

You saying Naruto is trash without Sage Mode or Kyubi applies to Luffy too lol. No devil fruit and he’s losing against any Yonko Commander Realistically

Like I said, even without Kyubis chakra Naruto has an immense supply of his own simply by being an uzumaki
Lol first there only 9 tailed beast the rest doesn't have it
Second Naruto has the strongest tailed beast Luffy ability till now without his own inventions it's a joke compared to other paramecia it doesn't even fit top 20

Nearly all of Luffys opponents had superior fruits while Naruto had the strongest inside him
See the difference it's slight but huge

You take the lastest chapter something you don't even know about till now from chapter 1 to 1043 it wasn't a sacred fruit but a normal fruit without any range or healing ability
Till now it's Luffys effort


The gears are his own freaking invention he increased the blood flow something he doesn't learn from CP he just learned Soru from them not gear something you obviously failed to understand like you failed to understand Luffy overall that's a shame till now you didn't understand Gears like you never understood one piece lol

Lol definitely no most of Narutos opponents weren't beat by himself
Haku
Kakuzu
Orochimaru
Deidara
Pain
3rd Raikage
Edo Nagato
Obito
Kaguya

He never won o one o one fight actually

Invention and improving are different things
Let me give you an example Luffy is like Minto he created the Gears Naruto just had to focus on controlling it
He didn't create anything others did the job for him

Gear 4 was not for Rayligh again his own invention

There is something called Haki it bypass DF do every hit he takes it with haki hits Luffy directly

Take away Luffys df and opponents DF
Luffy has all 3 adv haki
He would own most of them

Take away kyuubi
Naruto wouldn't he the hero of the 4th ninja war but a just strong fighter with sage mode and that's with sage without it he would be just a regular jonin
 
I gave an similar answer in another Post. I didn't read or watch alot of Manga / Anime in fact One Piece and Naruto are the only ones so far i guess thats why i am not bothered at all because non of this comes off as repetitive to me as for other people. while Anime/ Manga Veterans who probably have PTSD from all of this fate /chosen one/ destiny thing, i have no issues with it. Thats all i can say here
Bro the core narrative has changed. Panels about strawhat character development have been exponentially less than fate incestuous throne wars bullshit. Even this chapter was about momo yamato and zuneisha. The strawhats felt like filler
 
Bro the core narrative has changed. Panels about strawhat character development have been exponentially less than fate incestuous throne wars bullshit. Even this chapter was about momo yamato and zuneisha. The strawhats felt like filler
Yeah at this point i wonder if we will see the strawhats actually fullfill their dreams. We havnt seen Nami drawing maps in a while , Pretimeskip we saw her do that from time to time. The importance of the all blue or chopper curing all diseases ... hope Oda doesn't forget.

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Se reaction eustass had in Udon. They realise You cant compete with MC because author Does everything needed for mc to Be on top.
 
@Pooth is salty that One Piece is a more successful manga. :suresure:
Be it garbage or not, that "garbage" is doing much better than Naruto.
Pokemon is a more successful franchise monetarily than one piece.

Naruto has influenced almost all the top mangas now. Kishimotos work has been repeated while the elements of one piece are easily nowhere to be seen
 
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Naruto has influenced almost all the top mangas now. Kishimotos work has been repeated while the elements of one piece are easily nowhere to be seen
That.s bc they are too advanced for simple brains to replicate.
Keep crying
 
@Pooth is salty that One Piece is a more successful manga. :suresure:
Be it garbage or not, that "garbage" is doing much better than Naruto.
naruto was good before the shinobi WW2 style problem bullshit, i remember thinking naruto as greatest anime back in the day. the peak of naruto greatness was at pain saga. after that the manga became trash.
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Pokemon is a more successful franchise monetarily than one piece.
its because pokemon was made for kids age 12 below, you do know the highest paid youtuber was a kid who just made videos about toys right?
 
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Lol first there only 9 tailed beast the rest doesn't have it
Second Naruto has the strongest tailed beast Luffy ability till now without his own inventions it's a joke compared to other paramecia it doesn't even fit top 20
Wrong….the 10 tails is the strongest tailed beast bud

and once again what other Paramecia gives you ALL 3 DF ABILITIES??? What are you not comprehending dude? Why do you think the WG is scared of the fruit??? You’re not doing a very good job at defending Luffy here even I could do better
Nearly all of Luffys opponents had superior fruits while Naruto had the strongest inside him
See the difference it's slight but hug
Even with the “strongest” as you keep crying about Naruto still couldn’t control or tame the beast and even when he did, he still couldn’t win majority battles 1v1
Not against Orochimaru
Not against Pain
Not against Itachi and Nagato
Not against Obito
Not against Madara
Not against Kaguya
Not against Kinshiki and Momoshiki
Hell Sasuke doesn’t even have a tailed beast yet he could match him lol and if Naruto can’t win vs any of them 1v1 then how is he the “strongest”?

Also I’m tired of explaining this DF thing. Everyone Luffy faced prior has a weaker DF than Luffy’s since he can use Logia and Zoan abilities+Paramecia. I won’t repeat myself a 3rd time




You take the lastest chapter something you don't even know about till now from chapter 1 to 1043 it wasn't a sacred fruit but a normal fruit without any range or healing ability
Till now it's Luffys effort
So basically getting your ass whooped=great effort to you?

The gears are his own freaking invention he increased the blood flow something he doesn't learn from CP he just learned Soru from them not gear something you obviously failed to understand like you failed to understand Luffy overall that's a shame till now you didn't understand Gears like you never understood one piece lol
That’s literally what I just said though….i think you need rest or something cause once again
Luffy wouldn’t have his Gears if not for CP9. Luffy increased his blood flow in order to move faster like Soru. If he never fought a Soru user would he have thought to do that on his own?

He also developed Gear 3rd because his punches were simply too weak to bypass CP9’s Tekkai defense. Would he have thought to unlock Gear 3rd if he hadn’t faced CP9 membs with such strong defense???

I think it’s you who failed to understand Luffy and the overall story bud

Lol definitely no most of Narutos opponents weren't beat by himself
Haku
Kakuzu
Orochimaru
Deidara
Pain
3rd Raikage
Edo Nagato
Obito
Kaguya

He never won o one o one fight actually
Andddd you just proved my point and contradicted yourself, congrats!!!
“NaRut0 iS tH3 stR0ng3$t” yet majority of thise fights he couldn’t win on his own….so do you know what that means bud? He’s not the STRONGEST
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Glad you finally realized how stupid you sound

Invention and improving are different things
Let me give you an example Luffy is like Minto he created the Gears Naruto just had to focus on controlling it
He didn't create anything others did the job for him
“Others did the job for him”
Guess you ignored my point on Naruto creating the Rasenshuriken……this just tells me you don’t read Naruto, you’re just saying shit

Oh let’s also not forget Naruto is the creator of the Sexy Jutsu as well. You gonna ignore this technique too bud?
Gear 4 was not for Rayligh again his own invention
I was using your own dumb logic against you “Oh mY g0D NaRuT0 C0pi3D S4g3 MoD3” is like saying Luffy copied haki
Sage mode allows you to channel natural chakra and you mostly use your own chakra like how Luffy uses his own haki

Sure Gear 4th is Luffy’s own invention but without rayleigh, he couldn’t invent it lmao

But naruto invented the Rasenshuriken on his own


Take away Luffys df and opponents DF
Luffy has all 3 adv haki
He would own most of them
Take away Luffy’s devil fruit and Awakening= 1. Luffy can’t take half the damage he took with the devil fruit+can’t attack from far range thus leaving him vulnerable to be pumbled by Katakuri+Mochi Awakening
2. Parasite from Doffy and Ggs
3. Luffy can’t break through a biscuit soider without Boundman…in fact he’ll need boundman vs all commanders seeing as he almost used it vs Ulti…..
4. Smoothie would juice him
5. Queen snake chokes him
6. His punches would tickle Jack

Take away kyuubi
Naruto wouldn't he the hero of the 4th ninja war but a just strong fighter with sage mode and that's with sage without it he would be just a regular jonin
“Regular jonnin” when Kakashi said Naruto had even more potential than himself+3 times the chakra…yeah ok bud keep coping
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You all need to remove your Naruto coloured glasses and enjoy the story for what it is. Criticisms are fine but haha I told you so attitude is weird, get a life.
Shut up Zorotard
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That.s bc they are too advanced for simple brains to replicate.
Keep crying
Shut up zorotard
 
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It ruins the character of the core series. luffy is a pirate who wants freedom and ends up being a hero foing piracy. Koby is the hero Luffy is the villain
Yeah come back when Luffy defeats Imu/the CDs and brings the dawn, and then say 'LufFy wAs tHe VilLaiN AlL aLoNg'.
You just a WG agent confirned :zorothink:
 
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and once again what other Paramecia gives you ALL 3 DF ABILITIES??? What are you not comprehending dude? Why do you think the WG is scared of the fruit??? You’re not doing a very good job at defending Luffy here even I could do better
LMAO from chapter 1 to chapter 1043 nobody was afraid of his df who was awakening is something else
Everybody knew he had the gum gum no mi nobody did care you are not doing a very good job by ignore the past 1043 chapters where nobody did care and what counts it is the performance

It doesn't increase your ability like zoan
We dont the awaking yet also Luffy never used his "logia" powers in the previous 1043 chapters how can you count that lol that's not very smart that's just empty you are counting an ability he never used learn to make arguments
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Also I’m tired of explaining this DF thing. Everyone Luffy faced prior has a weaker DF than Luffy’s since he can use Logia and Zoan abilities+Paramecia. I won’t repeat myself a 3rd time
When the hell did he use logia powers let's take look
Against Crocodile ? Where he badly lost or against Smoker where he run away mhhhhhh or was his fruit superior to Katakuris who owned him only against Enel he had superiority also Kizarus was superior in which encounter was his DF superior ? In one its just you are empty and can't compare things that's all
1 there is not a single past battle where he used his so called logia powers owned and 3 pointer from me from the middle right into your face also Kuzan owned him twice Kaido owned 3 times for Crackers DF he needed water even though his DF was superior funny how you define superior 10 tails is combined of all 9 its the strongest out of the nine and strongest power that none of his enemies had





So basically getting your ass whooped=great effort to you?
I own you show me the chapter he used his logia powers against previous opponents wait there is no one whooped right badly whooped but it's not hard whoop you headcanon is headcanon

Andddd you just proved my point and contradicted yourself, congrats!!!
“NaRut0 iS tH3 stR0ng3$t” yet majority of thise fights he couldn’t win on his own….so do you know what that means bud? He’s not the STRONGEST
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Glad you finally realized how stupid you sound
Because he is trash without Kurama he would be just garbage
“Others did the job for him”
Guess you ignored my point on Naruto creating the Rasenshuriken……this just tells me you don’t read Naruto, you’re just saying shit

Oh let’s also not forget Naruto is the creator of the Sexy Jutsu as well. You gonna ignore this technique too bud?
Creating is something you create your own he didn't create the techniques if you would read Naruto you would realize Rasenshuriken is a technique Minato couldn't do but Naruto it's literally what Kakashi wanted to teach him something Minato couldn't you know it was right before Kakazu this shows you don't read but just create headcanon with again empty words you don't know what's creation is you didn't read the manga the kakuzu plot was around the technique but Naruto created it lol How dare you with your lil brain go up against me it's an insult
I was using your own dumb logic against you “Oh mY g0D NaRuT0 C0pi3D S4g3 MoD3” is like saying Luffy copied haki
Sage mode allows you to channel natural chakra and you mostly use your own chakra like how Luffy uses his own haki

Sure Gear 4th is Luffy’s own invention but without rayleigh, he couldn’t invent it lmao

But naruto invented the Rasenshuriken on his own
rayeligh had nothing to do with gear 4 he just teached him to use haki gear 4 was his own thing unlike Naruto who learned Rasenshuriken from Kakashi Luffy didn't needed Rayleigh for Gear 4
Take away Luffy’s devil fruit and Awakening= 1. Luffy can’t take half the damage he took with the devil fruit+can’t attack from far range thus leaving him vulnerable to be pumbled by Katakuri+Mochi Awakening
2. Parasite from Doffy and Ggs
3. Luffy can’t break through a biscuit soider without Boundman…in fact he’ll need boundman vs all commanders seeing as he almost used it vs Ulti…..
4. Smoothie would juice him
5. Queen snake chokes him
6. His punches would tickle Jack
Lol haki nullifies DF defense you would read rather than using your imaginary arguments you would understand that all attacks he got hit hit his real body
If you take away his take away also the enemies most of Narutos opponents didn't have a bjuu inside them

Luffy till now is fighting with his own strength
Naruto didn't just because Joyboy comes into the action doesn't make the past accomplishments zero
“Regular jonnin” when Kakashi said Naruto had even more potential than himself+3 times the chakra…yeah ok bud keep coping
Lol Kakashi without Sharingan is trash too
 
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