Spoiler One Piece Chapter 973 Spoilers Discussion

[HA001]

I guarantee you Katakuri would not go out in 10 seconds against Big Mom, and would not have Mogura destroyed by Ashura Doji.

Lata would be put down by meme in no time.
What mr powder puff 54 hit couldnt do is crack memes skull and put her out.

 

[HA001]

Captain can't be weaker than his subordinate.....you proved Jack shit....
You showed buggy example to prove captain can be weaker than subordinate and same buggy example can be used to say tank or title doesn't matter......

Theres no rule the captain being weaker than the subordinate. There never has been.

Not the same as you saying there are stronger swordsmen than the worlds strongest swordsman. If there were he wouldn't be the wss would he.

 

[DarkWitch]

You know I kind of feel a bit bad for King, seeing how the only reason why some people are overhyping him is so that they can indirectly hype up Zoro.

Poor King is just being used.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

This is the wildest case of mental gymnastics I've seen since Oro Jackson. You want 2 guys to be equal when it suits your argument, and you want one of them to be stronger when it suits another.

If you didn't understand from my earlier explanation, there's no point in debating on this point with you any further.

Yes, it does, because this is a position that you have to back with strength.

I get the point you're trying to get across with regards to a Yakuza boss, I do, but it doesn't explain why Kyoushiro/Denjiro has to be as strong a Hyougoro, not one bit. What exactly does a Yakuza boss do that requires him to have that much strength? threaten shop owners for business tax?:ROFLMAO:

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

You know I kind of feel a bit bad for King, seeing how the only reason why some people are overhyping him is so that they can indirectly hype up Zoro.

Poor King is just being used.

King's true fans don't care about Zoro, so none of that matters.

 

[HA001]

King's true fans don't care about Zoro, so none of that matters.

King has like 2 fans you and topi

 

[BangOO🍅]

Im still wondering how katakuri can use advanced observation haki while big mom didnt?
But i hope Oda did that on purpose though, Oda might hiding bigmom advanced observation haki in the story.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

King has like 2 fans you and topi

@Topi Jerami and I are all that's needed.

 

[sanjikun]

Im still wondering how katakuri can use advanced observation haki while big mom didnt?
But i hope Oda did that on purpose though, Oda might hiding bigmom advanced observation haki in the story.

Because she doesn't have it. Katakuri has Top Tier DF mastery and Top Tier Haki.

 

[Topi Jerami]

You know I kind of feel a bit bad for King, seeing how the only reason why some people are overhyping him is so that they can indirectly hype up Zoro.

Poor King is just being used.

This is wrong

You expect a YC hiding in his bedroom swallowing donuts in secret to have a huge fanbase behind him

But another YC, last survivor of unknown race, a history maker (almost slaying a Yonko in mere minutes if not seconds without any named attack, and dealt more damage to the Yonko in mere minutes if not seconds than how his Captain did in 3 whole days) to not have any fans behind him?
Just wanking Zoro? Nope

 

[HA001]

This is wrong

You expect a YC hiding in his bedroom swallowing donuts in secret to have a huge fanbase behind him

But another YC, last survivor of unknown race, a history maker (almost slaying a Yonko in mere minutes if not seconds without any named attack, and dealt more damage to the Yonko in mere minutes if not seconds than how his Captain did in 3 whole days) to not have any fans behind him?
Just wanking Zoro? Nope

@TheAncientCenturion point proven.

 

[sanjikun]

Katakuri was the center of a Yonko arc. King is a side character in a Yonko arc.

Katakuri was not written to be a normal YC. Anyone who's not biased/blind can see that.

 

[Topi Jerami]

@Topi Jerami and I are all that's needed.

Don't worry we have whole Temple led by High Priest Guan Yu and his legendary warrior nik87 when the time comes to defend the King

 

[HA001]

Katakuri was the center of a Yonko arc. King is a side character in a Yonko arc.

Katakuri was not written to be a normal YC. Anyone who's not biased/blind can see that.

20 years older bounty .57 mil only above jack whose 28.

Kaidos 2nd commander has a far greater bounty we not even gonna get into king.

 

[DarkWitch]

King's true fans don't care about Zoro, so none of that matters.

Well some of the people I see that are hyping up King are the Zoro wankers, the only exception to this is you and maybe a very few other people who aren't Zoro wankers.

Katakuri was the center of a Yonko arc. King is a side character in a Yonko arc.

Katakuri was not written to be a normal YC. Anyone who's not biased/blind can see that.

This.(y)

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Don't worry we have whole Temple led by High Priest Guan Yu and his legendary warrior nik87 when the time comes to defend the King

They'll make good Gifters for the Katakuri vs King threads bound to pop up in 20 chapters (if we're out of the flashback by then).

 

[Winsmoke Sanji]

Katakuri was the center of a Yonko arc. King is a side character in a Yonko arc.

Katakuri was not written to be a normal YC. Anyone who's not biased/blind can see that.

Anyone who reads Kat vs Luffy intently knows that Kat had as much characterization as Luffy. You can say he was the main character of the fight

 

[HA001]

Kata is the weakest first commander.

 

[Arara]

Well.. Full Summary

Full Summary @PuckTheGreat @EtenBoby

973話 『光月の一族』
扉絵: ゴッティが軍艦に砲撃して反撃

場面はおでんがロジャー海賊団と空島から青海へ降りる頃。
タコバルーン上でモモの助を高い高いするおでん。
こんな高い空から見ても見渡せないのが世界というものだと
モモの助や日和に告げる。好みの女のタイプを聞いたり、
人間をちくわだと思って斬れとモモの助に教育する。
そんな姿にレイリーやシャンクスがツッコミを入れるｗ

ワノ国に帰還したおでん。ゾウとワノ国は歴史的に
固い絆で結ばれており、いざという時はゾウを目指せと家臣に語る。
日和が琵琶を弾いていると、おでんはその曲が好きだと笑顔を見せる。
日和によると曲の名は「つきひめ」。おれの葬式で弾いてくれと
笑いながら頼むおでんだが、日和はショックを受けて
ずっと泣き続ける。冗談だったと慌てて弁解するおでん

おでん処刑後、オロチやカイドウの配下から必死に
逃走する赤鞘たち。丸腰だったが、シノブのおかげで
武器を手に取ることができた。シノブは錦えもんに、
自分も光月の家臣でいいのだろうかと問いかける。
錦えもんは、我ら全員押しかけ家臣、お前の心ひとつだと答え、
シノブは感涙する

イヌアラシとネコマムシは喧嘩中。イヌアラシは
「お前がおでん様を殺したようなものだ、単細胞ネコ！」と罵り、
ネコマムシは「敵を思いやる不忠者が！カイドウのいう
スパイはお前じゃないか」と罵り合う。
背後からナンバーズがシルエットで出現し、
イヌネコの巨体が片手でつまみあげられてしまう。
「何だありゃ…！」と焦る河松。追手が多すぎるので、
傅ジローとアシュラが足止めを買って出ることに

カイドウがおでん城に到着し、モモの助を掴んで
城の天守閣から投げ落とそうとする。
「お前の父はバカ殿だ…光月家はお前が死んで終わりだな」と
言い放つカイドウ。モモの助はトキの言葉を思い出しながら、
「父上は偉大な武士で、拙者はいつかこの国を背負って立つ男でござる!!」
と涙を堪えながら強がる

「言わされた夢…ここまで幼いとは…」と呆れるカイドウ。
「父上〜!!」と涙腺が崩壊して泣き叫ぶモモの助を見て、
カイドウはモモの助を投げ落とすことを止め、畳に放り投げる。
興が削がれた様子のカイドウは、「あれがおでんの息子とは…
城とともに燃えてしまえ」と、ため息をつきながら龍形態で城を立ち去る

城へ到着した赤鞘たちへ、トキは「みんなここへ来て。
話があるの」と呼びかける。未来へ飛ばすつもりだというトキ。

日和を抱えて水路から脱出する河松。顔を隠し、
城から単騎で脱出するトキ。炎上するおでん城を遠目に見て、
「夜が来る…いつもの夜と違う」と恐怖する町民。
「光月家を、おでん様を信じ抜けなかった我々に天罰が下るのさ。
明けることのない永遠の夜が始まるんだ…」と古老がつぶやく

トキはおでんとの会話を回想。
「お前『も』800年の昔から探しに来たんじゃないのか？
世界がひっくり返る日を…ならば20年先の未来へ飛べ!!お前の望む…」
と言いかけるおでんの口を手で塞ぐトキ。
ひどいこと言われたから夕飯なしだと怒るトキ

現在軸のトキへ。(おでんさん…私は過去から逃げてきた…
未来へ飛べば誰かがやってくれるって思ってた…!!)と思いつつ、
博羅町の鳥居から、炎上するおでん城へ向けて不思議な言葉を紡ぎはじめる

「月は夜明けを知らぬ君　叶わばその一念は
二十年(はたとせ)を編む月夜に九つの影を落とし
まばゆき夜明けを知る君と成る」

途中でカイドウの手下に銃撃されて倒れるトキ

場面は都のオロチへ。既にグラグラに沸騰している風呂に
入っているのに、寒くて震えが止まらないと怯えるオロチ。
光月の侍たちの骨を持ってこい、なぜ見つからねェんだと青ざめてる

閻魔堂に籠もって言葉にならない叫び声をあげつづける傅ジロー。
もはや形相が変わってきている。季節が冬になり堂を出る頃には、
傅ジローはその艷やかな黒髪の色を失い、
別人のような人相に変わり果てていた…

都で傅ジローの汚い姿を見てチョッカイをかけるチンピラだが、
瞬殺され、子分にしてくれと頼み込む。名前を聞かれ
「そうだな…狂死郎」と答える傅ジロー

オロチに士官し、金、女、兵、貴方に必要なものは
全て動かせますと頭を下げる狂四郎だが、その顔は屈辱に震えていた。
オロチの部下たちは狂四郎のあまりの才覚と腕っぷしに驚嘆

居眠り狂四郎という二つ名は、いつも眠そうな様子からだという。
夜遊びが過ぎるのだろうと冗談めかす町民。
だが実は狂四郎は、丑三つ小僧として夜な夜な蔵の金を盗んでは
町民にばらまくという顔も持っていた

河松が日和を見失って途方に暮れていた頃、日和が
みなし子として狂四郎の遊郭の女達に保護される。
仰天する狂四郎。自分の正体は傅ジローだと告白する狂四郎。

怒りという妖怪に取り憑かれたこの顔では、
さしもの錦えもん達も気づきますまい、それが好都合。
いつか来る決戦の瞬間まで自分のことは味方にも
他言無用に願いますと日和に頼み込む。そして、
河松に代わって今日から拙者がお守りいたす!!
名を小紫とお名乗りください!!と告げる

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Nothing supports that the Headliners are pirate captains serving under Kaido's flag.

There's an abundance of them, three of them are confirmed pirate captains, and they're outside the deck of cards unlike the Disasters and the actual Numbers.

Are Holdem, Page One, Ginrummy, Speed, Dobon... captains affiliated to the Beast Pirates too?

Yes, just like what Tamago, Pekoms, and Bobbin are for the Big Mom Pirates.

And I'm not saying that the Flying Six and only them must represent the cards under the Jack but that X Drake fits the 10 card way too well for someone else in the crew to take that spot.

X. Drake's "ten" is irrelevant to the Beasts Pirates structure.