Questions & Mysteries Explain Luffy powerscale by Luffytads

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Herrera95

#41
Doflamingo: Surpassed by Luffy in the next major arc (Whole Cake Island).

Cracker: See Doflamingo above.

Katakuri: Surpassed by Luffy in the next major arc (Wano Country).

Big Mom: See Kaido below.

Kaido: Surpassed by Luffy in the next major arc.
What? I agree about Katakuri and Cracker but Luffy was already stronger than Doflamingo since timeskip.

Maybe Luffy surpasses Kaido in the next major arc.
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There is a big difference between bajrung gun and every other thing luffy did using G5

G5 isn't above Kaido. Bajrung gun still can be dodged
Is so thrash how Kaido was slowly overcoming Luffy's ultimate and unleashed Luffy's hidden power by thrash talking to him. He went to slowly winning the clash to insta lost by a huge advantage.
 
#42
What? I agree about Katakuri and Cracker but Luffy was already stronger than Doflamingo since timeskip.
Doflamingo and Cracker are about the same. Trouble for Base Luffy. Pushovers when Luffy enters Gear 4. Can only combat Gear 4 by stalling.

Doflamingo clearly has better durability, but Cracker's Haki has more hype and stalls Gear 4 better than Doflamingo.
 
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Herrera95

#44
Doflamingo and Cracker are about the same. Trouble for Base Luffy. Pushovers when Luffy enters Gear 4. Can only combat Gear 4 by stalling.

Doflamingo clearly has better durability, but Cracker's Haki has more hype and stalls Gear 4 better than Doflamingo.
Doflamingo did nothing against G4. Even his awakening was useless.
 
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Herrera95

#46
Where anything stated this ?

I just found he say he can fight a bit longer when he coming back from almost dead (or dead state). After he awakening his devil fruit.



How who can fight a bit longer = 100 % ?



And where anything stated Gear 5 Luffy was defeated by Kaido ? What panel stating this ?
Where that panel came from? I can't find it.

"I can do everything I wanted to do" but he only wants to fight a bit longer...
 
#48
G5 > any Great Pirate alive or dead
Yonko >~ G4 Luffy

Overall : Luffy ~ Kaido >~ BM >~ Shanks >= current Teach

1000 : Low top tier
1010 : Solid top tier
1026 : Upper-mid top tier
1044 : High top tier
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#49
He is probably on low yonko level right now. He wasn't there before G5 power up I feel, unless he was already Big Mom level. Prior to his post Base stats inflation he was much weaker and I'm referring to rooftoop round 1
 
#50
No one said 1010 Luffy was Younko level
The general consensus was that he is Low top Tier in 1010
Younko level (heavy portrayal and feats) After 1026
Younko+ After G5 (unmastered)
 
#51
This isn't DBZ when someone gets a Power Up they become untouchable. Luffy vs Kaido in ACT 1 is enough proof that Luffy is capable of knocking Kaido around due to his fruit that allows him to increase the weight behind his punches but that didn't even affect Kaido.

- Physicality = Endurance + Durability + Toughness + Strong Body "Weight etc"

- Luffy using AdvCoA doesn't change anything about his Physicality. He only added more AP to his attacks.
- Luffy using AdvCoC doesn't change anything about his Physicality. He only added more AP to his attacks.
- Luffy using Gear 5 doesn't change anything about his Physicality. He only acquired a new ability to his fruit that allowed him to increase his AP even more easier than his other forms.

That is why his fight with Kaido had the same dynamic during all of the fight phases. Kaido always seemed to have the upper hand in every way but Luffy fought better because he used haki better. Luffy withstanding Kaido's Bagua's is enough proof that he coats his haki better because what changed from him getting knocked out by Rangaraku on the rooftop? AdvCoC!
 
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Herrera95

#52
He say "I can fight a bit longer" not "I want to fight a bit longer".

Then "he only wants to fight a bit longer" is just your headcanon.

"Luffy is smiling, jumping, laughing like nothing happened" didn't mean he is 100%.

He can smiling, jumping, laughing because his heartbeat sound funny.
I found the panel. Okay, headcannon of me and you too. I can fight a bit longer is figure of speech, doesn't mean you can only fight for a few limited time but you can keep fighting.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#53
Luffy is likely not Roger level, that would just be insane if he reached that so soon. Laugh Tale still feels so astonishingly far.
 
#54
Don't hide yourself Luffytard. Is time to explain your unrealistic power scale towards your boy King of hundred defeats Luffy.

How came Luffy being Yonko Level on pair with Kaido on 1010 then again at 1026 then again at 1044 with all those power ups and food supply.
Or if he was Kaido level at 1010 how you explain him getting defeated at 1013 and coming back stronger than Kaido( by your narrative) then losing again on 1043 and coming back even stronger just to have a extreme diff fight against Kaido?
Exactly! Kaido clearly never went all out or he wouldn’t have been able to keep up with all of Luffy’s powerups. If he does not get back up, I call BS.
 
#55
I dont think Kaido wanted to dodge the attack in case if anyone has not forgotten he turned himself to magma or flame torch(which should have been the nail in the coffin for muh kaido awakening moment any time now) to probably think he could over power G5 which apparently wasnt the case so he got the Doflamingo ending. Also funny enough like Kaido people on 4chan used the same arguments that Luffy got help from Law or he would not beat Doflamingo so I am wondering if the Kaido fans havent gotten PTSD flashbacks by bringing up kaidos battle being comparable to Doflamingos assuming they were Doflamingo fans before switching to being a kaido fan.

I am not that disappointed but i will be more disappointed if Cracker somehow jobs to Germa in the cover story
because it would sort of imply that their exoskeletons overpowered the hardened armament biscuit soldiers that G2/G3 Luffy could not break meaning you would have to be G4 or G5 to cause any harm to Sanji and that luffy wouldn't be able to dent Yonjis face like Sanji because exoskeleton > biscuit soldier.
 
#56
This isn't DBZ when someone gets a Power Up they become untouchable. Luffy vs Kaido in ACT 1 is enough proof that Luffy is capable of knocking Kaido around due to his fruit that allows him to increase the weight behind his punches but that didn't even affect Kaido.

- Physicality = Endurance + Durability + Toughness + Strong Body "Weight etc"

- Luffy using AdvCoA doesn't change anything about his Physicality. He only added more AP to his attacks.
- Luffy using AdvCoC doesn't change anything about his Physicality. He only added more AP to his attacks.
- Luffy using Gear 5 doesn't change anything about his Physicality. He only acquired a new ability to his fruit that allowed him to increase his AP even more easier than his other forms.

That is why his fight with Kaido had the same dynamic during all of the fight phases. Kaido always seemed to have the upper hand in every way but Luffy fought better because he used haki better. Luffy withstanding Kaido's Bagua's is enough proof that he coats his haki better because what changed from him getting knocked out by Rangaraku on the rooftop? AdvCoC!
Gear 5 actually increases his physical strength. Read chapter 1044 before saying BS. Read what the Goresei say.

Gears increase his physical strength.
 
#59
Gear 5 actually increases his physical strength. Read chapter 1044 before saying BS. Read what the Goresei say.

Gears increase his physical strength.
I am sorry but they do not say Physical Strength at all. They said "Strengthens their Rubbery Body". Strengthens their >> Rubbery << body. Which means that his Rubber Ability has upgraded. It could imply that his Physical Strength has upgraded but their wording is >> Rubbery Body <<. And lastly for Luffy it doesn't matter how if he gains Physical Strength because his ability allows him to bypass that anyways which is why Zoro trains with weights and Luffy does not.

If you have actually read my reply carefully you would have actually seen that i was saying Luffy's ability ignores Physical Strength entirely. But meh lol.
 
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