Break Week If Kamazo gets a bigger bounty then Sanji for beating Lawkins

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#25
I used to think Killler's bounty would way overlap Sanji's during roof piece because he was the right hand man of one of the new leaders of the next generation. I thought everyone was going to get credit for roofpiece. At the time it made sense. Obviously things have since changed.

Man probably won't even get a billion, but he might be close to Jimbei if nothing else.
 
#26
He was Landing effective hits on Kaidou defeated a supernova and saved his captain. He deserves a bounty similar to Zoro's as he did just about as much. Though Zoro's bounty shouldn't be higher or much higher than Sanji's

If it was me I would say killer 1.250 billion Sanji and zoro 1.5 billion.
 
#27
Killer is superior to Sanji both on a fighting perspective and on a command perspective.
But even with this assumed, Sanji will get a higher bounty cause of the the difference in bounty between Luffy & Kidd, the Captains.

- Luffy will jump to 3,000,000,000 minimum, 4,000,000,000 at most. Zoro, his number 2, will surpass Luffy's last bounty (1,520,000,000 imo) as he always did. Sanji will stay below it, in the range between Queen's bounty and Marco's bounty. My bets are:
  • 1,330,000,000, which means a bump of 1,000,000,000 from his current bounty
  • 1,366,000,000, as a reminder that he accepted his origin with Germa 66
- Kidd will reach 2,000,000,000 minimum, but he also has the right cards to surpass Teach's current bounty a lil bit (2,490,000,000 at most). Killer, as his partner and second in command should get a bounty in the billion range at the very least. To be more precise something that doesn't surpass Katakuri's but that comes close to it:
  • 1,013,000,000, around half of Kidd's bounty, with the '13' number pun, a number associated to 'death' and 'bad luck'
So don't worry @stealthblack, Sanji will keep an higher bounty if that's what makes you sleep well. But not because of fighting-meritocracy or field-commanding skills, that's for sure.
:myman:
 
#28
inb4 sanji's bounty wont even reach 1bi
I was thinking about this too

In the past there were certain bounty milestones that Sanji didn't achieve timely while Luffy and Zoro did.

As an example:
  • Luffy is the first strawhat ever to get a bounty
  • Zoro is the second strawhat to get a bounty
  • While Sanji received his first bounty alongside all the other crewmembers. He hit this milestone with other crewmembers, not alone like Luffy and Zoro did.

Another example:
  • Luffy was the first strawhat to hit a 100+ milions bounty
  • Zoro was the second strawhat to hit a 100+ milions bounty
  • While Sanji hit this milestone with Nico Robin and Usop, again, not alone.


So I was thinking...what about the 1 billion bounty milepost?
  • Luffy was the first one to hit it
  • Zoro alone will be the second one to hit it
  • Sanji will hit it in the future after Zoro, accompanied by other crewmembers, e.g. Yamato, Jinbe and Robin.

  1. First landmark: getting first bounty
  2. Second landmark: getting a 100+ milions bounty
  3. Third landmark: getting a 1+ B bounty


Disclaimer: I am not saying that it will be certainly this way, I was just considering this possibility and how feasible it was.
Maybe Oda will not consider this pattern at all, or maybe to him the third landmark is a 1.5+ B bounty, and not a 1+ B bounty
 
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#29
Killer is superior to Sanji both on a fighting perspective and on a command perspective.
But even with this assumed, Sanji will get a higher bounty cause of the the difference in bounty between Luffy & Kidd, the Captains.

- Luffy will jump to 3,000,000,000 minimum, 4,000,000,000 at most. Zoro, his number 2, will surpass Luffy's last bounty (1,520,000,000 imo) as he always did. Sanji will stay below it, in the range between Queen's bounty and Marco's bounty. My bets are:
  • 1,330,000,000, which means a bump of 1,000,000,000 from his current bounty
  • 1,366,000,000, as a reminder that he accepted his origin with Germa 66
- Kidd will reach 2,000,000,000 minimum, but he also has the right cards to surpass Teach's current bounty a lil bit (2,490,000,000 at most). Killer, as his partner and second in command should get a bounty in the billion range at the very least. To be more precise something that doesn't surpass Katakuri's but that comes close to it:
  • 1,013,000,000, around half of Kidd's bounty, with the '13' number pun, a number associated to 'death' and 'bad luck'
So don't worry @stealthblack, Sanji will keep an higher bounty if that's what makes you sleep well. But not because of fighting-meritocracy or field-commanding skills, that's for sure.
:myman:
Killer Kid strength and infamy dynamic seems like what you would expect from a standard yonko crew. The captain being way ahead of the rhm.
Don't confuse him with someone like Zoro.
As an example post Dressrosa, Luffy had 500 and Zoro had 320. Some gap but not as huge as the 470m and 200m gap.
I can legit see a situation where Kid is at 2B while Killer is below 1B.
Sanji and Zoro are hugely favored by the match ups they got. Defeating the calamities will net them bounties on a similar level + plus some captain inflation.
Killer, Drake and some of the strawhats got fucked hard when Oda decided to not include the big mom Kids chilling below the water falls lol. Defeating Hawkins a perennial loser is meh, would have been better of fought maybe Who's who while Jinbei defeated Sweet Commander Smoothie given the bitter history he has with Big mom pirates. Bepo too could have gotten some decent feats by fighting maybe Daifuku.
 

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#30
Killer is superior to Sanji both on a fighting perspective and on a command perspective.
But even with this assumed, Sanji will get a higher bounty cause of the the difference in bounty between Luffy & Kidd, the Captains.

- Luffy will jump to 3,000,000,000 minimum, 4,000,000,000 at most. Zoro, his number 2, will surpass Luffy's last bounty (1,520,000,000 imo) as he always did. Sanji will stay below it, in the range between Queen's bounty and Marco's bounty. My bets are:
  • 1,330,000,000, which means a bump of 1,000,000,000 from his current bounty
  • 1,366,000,000, as a reminder that he accepted his origin with Germa 66
- Kidd will reach 2,000,000,000 minimum, but he also has the right cards to surpass Teach's current bounty a lil bit (2,490,000,000 at most). Killer, as his partner and second in command should get a bounty in the billion range at the very least. To be more precise something that doesn't surpass Katakuri's but that comes close to it:
  • 1,013,000,000, around half of Kidd's bounty, with the '13' number pun, a number associated to 'death' and 'bad luck'
So don't worry @stealthblack, Sanji will keep an higher bounty if that's what makes you sleep well. But not because of fighting-meritocracy or field-commanding skills, that's for sure.
:myman:
sanji gets increases in bounty due to germa's name too plus some of judge's own money in there i dont think killer will top that even though he fought kaido
 
#31
Killer is superior to Sanji both on a fighting perspective and on a command perspective.
But even with this assumed, Sanji will get a higher bounty cause of the the difference in bounty between Luffy & Kidd, the Captains.

- Luffy will jump to 3,000,000,000 minimum, 4,000,000,000 at most. Zoro, his number 2, will surpass Luffy's last bounty (1,520,000,000 imo) as he always did. Sanji will stay below it, in the range between Queen's bounty and Marco's bounty. My bets are:
  • 1,330,000,000, which means a bump of 1,000,000,000 from his current bounty
  • 1,366,000,000, as a reminder that he accepted his origin with Germa 66
- Kidd will reach 2,000,000,000 minimum, but he also has the right cards to surpass Teach's current bounty a lil bit (2,490,000,000 at most). Killer, as his partner and second in command should get a bounty in the billion range at the very least. To be more precise something that doesn't surpass Katakuri's but that comes close to it:
  • 1,013,000,000, around half of Kidd's bounty, with the '13' number pun, a number associated to 'death' and 'bad luck'
So don't worry @stealthblack, Sanji will keep an higher bounty if that's what makes you sleep well. But not because of fighting-meritocracy or field-commanding skills, that's for sure.
:myman:
Killer aint superior to Sanji
 
#32
Killer is superior to Sanji both on a fighting perspective and on a command perspective.
But even with this assumed, Sanji will get a higher bounty cause of the the difference in bounty between Luffy & Kidd, the Captains.

- Luffy will jump to 3,000,000,000 minimum, 4,000,000,000 at most. Zoro, his number 2, will surpass Luffy's last bounty (1,520,000,000 imo) as he always did. Sanji will stay below it, in the range between Queen's bounty and Marco's bounty. My bets are:
  • 1,330,000,000, which means a bump of 1,000,000,000 from his current bounty
  • 1,366,000,000, as a reminder that he accepted his origin with Germa 66
- Kidd will reach 2,000,000,000 minimum, but he also has the right cards to surpass Teach's current bounty a lil bit (2,490,000,000 at most). Killer, as his partner and second in command should get a bounty in the billion range at the very least. To be more precise something that doesn't surpass Katakuri's but that comes close to it:
  • 1,013,000,000, around half of Kidd's bounty, with the '13' number pun, a number associated to 'death' and 'bad luck'
So don't worry @stealthblack, Sanji will keep an higher bounty if that's what makes you sleep well. But not because of fighting-meritocracy or field-commanding skills, that's for sure.
:myman:
Despite all the evidence against it, it’s honestly admirable how you wank Killer… I can’t disagree more about Killer being on par with let alone superior to Sanji but keep this up until Killer finally gets his moment.
 
#33
Killer Kid strength and infamy dynamic seems like what you would expect from a standard yonko crew. The captain being way ahead of the rhm.
Don't confuse him with someone like Zoro.
As an example post Dressrosa, Luffy had 500 and Zoro had 320. Some gap but not as huge as the 470m and 200m gap.
I can legit see a situation where Kid is at 2B while Killer is below 1B.
Sanji and Zoro are hugely favored by the match ups they got. Defeating the calamities will net them bounties on a similar level + plus some captain inflation.
Killer, Drake and some of the strawhats got fucked hard when Oda decided to not include the big mom Kids chilling below the water falls lol. Defeating Hawkins a perennial loser is meh, would have been better of fought maybe Who's who while Jinbei defeated Sweet Commander Smoothie given the bitter history he has with Big mom pirates. Bepo too could have gotten some decent feats by fighting maybe Daifuku.
Wrong, Killer is one of those 2nd men who have been with the captain since the very start.
You are talking about 1st Commanders like Marco, Arbel and Katakuri.
- Marco ---> An apprentice who grew up on Newgate's ship, becoming one of his sons
- Arbel ---> A prisoner who was freed and recluted by Kaido, who saw potential in him
- Katakuri ---> A son of Linlin who grew up to be the strongest of his siblings

All these are much younger than their captains, the gap in strenght with them is proportionally huge and are never refered with terms like 'partner'.

Killer is actually the only one refered with this title, meaning that he fought the same battle Kidd fought (i.e Kaido) and both started from the same point.
Only characters with a similar status, even tho not stated explicitely, are people like Zoro, Rayleigh back in the day and maybe Beckman.

I don't blame Oda for making Killer fight Hawkins, it was the most logical thing narrative-wise (I made a really detailed thread about it).
- Putting him in the Linlin fight would've been overkill
- King and Queen were already picked for Zoro and Sanji
- Jack would have been a good matchup, I would've liked to see it, but there was no emotional background for it
- F5 would have been destroyed even worse than Hawkins
So, at the end of the day, Oda needed a character able to hold Killer for some time (blackmailing doll) and with some emotional background (alliance betrayal). Hawkins was perfect for the role and seeing Killer utterly destroying him physically and mentally was a real treat for me.

sanji gets increases in bounty due to germa's name too plus some of judge's own money in there i dont think killer will top that even though he fought kaido
Vinsmoke name already gifted him a bump, I doubt it will happen again.
It's just that Sanji defeated an enemy with higher value on paper and showed off in front of the armies.
Killer, on the other hand, worked behind the enemy lines (no spectators on the Rooftop, isolated in his 1v1 against Hawkins).
That's why I think his bounty will be chosen by Marines in proportion to Kidd's.

Killer aint superior to Sanji
Okaaaaaay

Despite all the evidence against it, it’s honestly admirable how you wank Killer… I can’t disagree more about Killer being on par with let alone superior to Sanji but keep this up until Killer finally gets his moment.
Don't worry I'm keepin' it up
 
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