Break Week Yamato joining is a win-win for Sanji fans

[Fn Lucci]

Patiently Waiting For The Copium That will Be Overdosed When Yamato Fights The Fourth Strongest While Sanji Fights The Third Strongest.

Yamato shitstomps #4 and Sanji uses a miracle to beat #3

He could very well end up stronger, but the Germa boost wasn't really enough.

 

[Jailer]

Wut?

King and Queen are Kaido's strongest men, they aren't equal. Likewise for Zoro and Sanji. Rayleigh was stronger than Gaban, at best Oden and Ray were equal which totally could've been the case.

Never said King and Queen are equal, neither said Rayleigh and Gaban are equal, all I am saying is there's no reason for me to believe Rayleigh is stronger or equal to Oden, and one can easily make an argument that Oden=Rayleigh + Gaban combined.

 

[MarineHQ]

Never said King and Queen are equal, neither said Rayleigh and Gaban are equal, all I am saying is there's no reason for me to believe Rayleigh is stronger or equal to Oden, and one can easily make an argument that Oden=Rayleigh + Gaban combined.

How lol?

Only because Gaban and Rayleigh wanted to gang up on Oden?

Rayleigh and Gaban would be tough for even Roger so Oden was on that tier ?

Nah there's definitely not a case to be made for that. Best case Oden extreme diffs Rayleigh which i disagree with as well.

Oda is not giving Roger a member that's stronger than his right hand just like Yamato ain't stronger than Zoro if she joins.

 

[Fn Lucci]

We never saw Rayleigh in his prime, why do people drag him into shit like this lol

 

[BangOO🍅]

Oda would never change the Monster trio dynamic and since Sanji is number 3 he‘ll have to surpass Yamato. That means there are 2 options:

• Sanji will surpass acoc without having it

• Sanji will get it later

:cheers:

let people digging their own grave :cheers:

 

[Topi Jerami]

Yamato shitstomps #4 and Sanji uses a miracle to beat #3

He could very well end up stronger, but the Germa boost wasn't really enough.

That's what happened with Jinbe.
Jinbe shitstomps Whos Who without water around and Sanji uses miracle from daddy to beat Queen with geisha's distraction.

Jinbe > Sanji. Jinbe > Yamao too.

 

[Peroroncino]

Never said King and Queen are equal, neither said Rayleigh and Gaban are equal, all I am saying is there's no reason for me to believe Rayleigh is stronger or equal to Oden, and one can easily make an argument that Oden=Rayleigh + Gaban combined.

you're capping hard right now jailer just cause ray and gaban were ready to fight oden when he literally charged at them doesn't mean he's stronger than them.
Even the anime portrayed him fighting gaban alone.

 

[Kishido]

Yamato 3rd strongest after ZKK

 

[Hamlette]

So the argument here is that Yamato replaces Sanji since "there is no dynamic", but she won't replace Zoro because he's always going to be the second strongest because "right hand". Essentially making a self defeating argument, since you're admitting there is a dynamic in place that overrides anything Yamato may do that will always keep Zoro in his position, yet deny that same fact for Sanji who was placed as the other "Wing", which establishes him as the next in line after the right hand; the honorary "left hand".

The actual argument being made here is this " I like Yamato and think she's stronger than Sanji, so she's stronger than Sanji", if you people just said this straight up it would be far more respectable than these pathetic attempts you call arguments.

 

[Jailer]

How lol?

Only because Gaban and Rayleigh wanted to gang up on Oden?

Rayleigh and Gaban would be tough for even Roger so Oden was on that tier ?

Nah there's definitely not a case to be made for that. Best case Oden extreme diffs Rayleigh which i disagree with as well.

Oda is not giving Roger a member that's stronger than his right hand just like Yamato ain't stronger than Zoro if she joins.

Oda aint giving a member that's stronger than his top 2 then, samw shitty argument. Not saying my take is correct or anything but it's an easy argument to make for either way.

 

[MarineHQ]

Oda aint giving a member that's stronger than his top 2 then, samw shitty argument. Not saying my take is correct or anything but it's an easy argument to make for either way.

Oden being stronger than Ray is one thing, which i honestly heavily disagree with but the case could be made, but for Oden to suddenly be stronger than Rayleigh + Gaban is kind off extreme.

There's no implications for Oden to be that powerful especially not before learning Adv CoC.

 

[Jailer]

Oden being stronger than Ray is one thing, which i honestly heavily disagree with but the case could be made, but for Oden to suddenly be stronger than Rayleigh + Gaban is kind off extreme.

There's no implications for Oden to be that powerful especially not before learning Adv CoC.

It doesn't matter how you and I see it, he can be stronger than both or weaker than both or as strong as both combined even, arguments can be made for all three cases.

In Sanji's case he might not even need ACoC, science based power ups or whatever his mutation allows him in the future.

 

[Fn Lucci]

So the argument here is that Yamato replaces Sanji since "there is no dynamic", but she won't replace Zoro because he's always going to be the second strongest because "right hand". Essentially making a self defeating argument, since you're admitting there is a dynamic in place that overrides anything Yamato may do that will always keep Zoro in his position, yet deny that same fact for Sanji who was placed as the other "Wing", which establishes him as the next in line after the right hand; the honorary "left hand".

The actual argument being made here is this " I like Yamato and think she's stronger than Sanji, so she's stronger than Sanji", if you people just said this straight up it would be far more respectable than these pathetic attempts you call arguments.

Context over "rank." Zoro has CoC, the highest durability for a regular human, the physical strength to overpower Zoans, and a BLADED weapon that provides range and defensive boosts.

Yamato is a super tough Zoan with unique defensive and offensive abilities, but that's not necessarily more than King. Yamato also has CoC, but has yet to actually finish a strong opponent so we can't rate it. A blunt weapon too, which means less likely to finish on contact.

Sanji has involuntary mutant powers. Decent Haki, great speed, and a lot of skill, but without control of the Germa boost it's not really good enough to beat the other two. Maybe Jinbe if he ever gets careless.

 

[Jailer]

Context over "rank." Zoro has CoC, the highest durability for a regular human, the physical strength to overpower Zoans, and a BLADED weapon that provides range and defensive boosts.

Yamato is a super tough Zoan with unique defensive and offensive abilities, but that's not necessarily more than King. Yamato also has CoC, but has yet to actually finish a strong opponent so we can't rate it. A blunt weapon too, which means less likely to finish on contact.

Sanji has involuntary mutant powers. Decent Haki, great speed, and a lot of skill, but without control of the Germa boost it's not really good enough to beat the other two. Maybe Jinbe if he ever gets careless.

"Maybe Jinbei" Lol, back to square 1

 

[DonWick]

N

Oda would never change the Monster trio dynamic and since Sanji is number 3 he‘ll have to surpass Yamato. That means there are 2 options:

• Sanji will surpass acoc without having it

• Sanji will get it later

:cheers:

Sanji won’t get ACoC. I’ve been thinking about rather Sanji would surpass Yamato or not a decent amount recently. Based on what happened with Jinbei you’d think he would. But I think Scopper was weaker than Oden then entire time so I don’t know. But that’s my headcannon.

Right now Zoro>Yamato>Sanji

 

[Fn Lucci]

"Maybe Jinbei" Lol, back to square 1

Jinbe has incredible defense and not by accident. Tolerated Akainu and Big Mom, broke Who's Who into pieces by blocking.

Sanji will explicitly die from shit without a boost, and told King not to kill him even with a boost. So yeah, back to square one

 

[Biotorex]

When will Sanji stop simping?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

N

Sanji won’t get ACoC. I’ve been thinking about rather Sanji would surpass Yamato or not a decent amount recently. Based on what happened with Jinbei you’d think he would. But I think Scopper was weaker than Oden then entire time so I don’t know. But that’s my headcannon.

Right now Zoro>Yamato>Sanji

The straw hats aren’t the roger pirates.

The straw hats are lead by the monster trio, Luffy and his wings. No one joining will be beyond Sanji. As soon as Yamato steps foot onto the Sunny it means that Sanjis stronger than her.

 

[Peroroncino]

Oden being stronger than Ray is one thing, which i honestly heavily disagree with but the case could be made, but for Oden to suddenly be stronger than Rayleigh + Gaban is kind off extreme.

There's no implications for Oden to be that powerful especially not before learning Adv CoC.

dont think even roger could beat those 2

 

[MarineHQ]

dont think even roger could beat those 2

Roger is high diffing Prime Ray and Gaban is not enough to tip the scales for me. I think he can. Gaban is not low top tier imo.