[FNZ] Super Role Madness GimmeMy10McMuffins mafia Hurt and Heal

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Burning super powerful scum abilities counts as assistance to the town, for the record.
Tho tbf this is not something you would do with the intent to help town lol. So it’s unintentional help vs letting you win here which would be intentional and possibly anti town wincon lol.
 

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We can’t talk about the main thread, only things that pertain to Hurt N Heal, but I’m aware of things that could change how I play Hurt n Heal lol.
So to be clear, I'm not suggesting I be let win. I'm suggesting it's kept as an option, if you think I'm going to just roll over and pretend to be Town, sorry but it's not going to happen. I really shouldn't need to address the anti town wincon part - scum say it's massively protown, some are saying it's anti town, I'm wondering when someone will pick up a dictionary and look up the word "neutral".
 
So to be clear, I'm not suggesting I be let win. I'm suggesting it's kept as an option, if you think I'm going to just roll over and pretend to be Town, sorry but it's not going to happen. I really shouldn't need to address the anti town wincon part - scum say it's massively protown, some are saying it's anti town, I'm wondering when someone will pick up a dictionary and look up the word "neutral".
I wouldn’t expect you to become an additional town. But if there are things at minimal cost to your wincon that could be of significant help to town wincon I think it’s fair to ask.
 

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I wouldn’t expect you to become an additional town. But if there are things at minimal cost to your wincon that could be of significant help to town wincon I think it’s fair to ask.
Uh, you realise in terms of wincon mine is always going to be more swingy with boons such as this than town's, yes? Which is to say, it's neither minimal cost to me, nor significant to town, potentially of course.
 
Anyway. It’s probably silly. “Giving you a chance to win” means lessening my or Flower’s chances to win.

I don’t see where giving you a chance plays to my wincon rn which is all I should be worried about. Even if you say yes to anything I’m not guaranteed to see reward for it.

I just have a very bad habit of wanting to cooperate and play nice bc I’m a people person lol.

Ensuring me/Flower’s victory isn’t even doing anything wrong to you guys.
 
Anyway. It’s probably silly. “Giving you a chance to win” means lessening my or Flower’s chances to win.

I don’t see where giving you a chance plays to my wincon rn which is all I should be worried about. Even if you say yes to anything I’m not guaranteed to see reward for it.

I just have a very bad habit of wanting to cooperate and play nice bc I’m a people person lol.

Ensuring me/Flower’s victory isn’t even doing anything wrong to you guys.
And by not see reward I mean what I asked for might not even be significantly helpful lol. Nor do you have to be truthful if you said yes if you didn’t want to be and I’d have no way to hold you accountable.
 

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I just have a very bad habit of wanting to cooperate and play nice bc I’m a people person lol.
... You think you've been remotely in favour of co-operation here? Or is your idea of co-operation anything that benefits you, and only your interests? Because erm, if so, let's say we disagree strongly on the term.
 
... You think you've been remotely in favour of co-operation here? Or is your idea of co-operation anything that benefits you, and only your interests? Because erm, if so, let's say we disagree strongly on the term.
Lol compared to most townspeople yes. I’m happy to leave you be, not bother you, speak against you, etc to the point some would say I’m your “pet”.

In a vacuum I don’t think I’ve been cooperative or uncooperative this game. Which is think is fair.

Currently as pertains to this Hurt n Heal game I was definitely thinking about being cooperative but it’s irresponsible of me not to make sure what I get back is more valuable to me than what I give up.

But that’s not to say you can’t also come out of an exchange with more value than you give up lol. Anytime there’s cooperation to be had that sweet spot where we both come out with a “steal” is really the only place we can afford to make deals.

Unfortunately you have to give more bc town has a majority over you and can lynch you. So sometimes your deal is “be claimed indie and be allowed to live/un-interfered with ” in exchange for not hurting town to a degree that you need be dealt with.
 
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