Break Week Kidd and Killer (and maybe even their entire crew) needed to team up to beat a Sweet Commander

#42
Again, not necessarily. Zoro isn't above Kid and Law because he has ACoC. Law and Kid's hax are too powerful.
or he is , cause acoc is portrayed above their hax . acoc is portrayed above anything in onigashima and zoro/ luffy were the ones who were given the PU among the novas instead of kid and law .
 
#43
or he is , cause acoc is portrayed above their hax . acoc is portrayed above anything in onigashima and zoro/ luffy were the ones who were given the PU among the novas instead of kid and law .
ACoC wasn't portrayed above hax...it was only necessary for Luffy and Zoro because they needed the extra AP to be able to penetrate Kaido's and King's durability respectively. Kid and Law were able to penetrate Big Meme's durability without ACoC but instead their hax.
 
#45
ACoC wasn't portrayed above hax...it was only necessary for Luffy and Zoro because they needed the extra AP to be able to penetrate Kaido's and King's durability respectively. Kid and Law were able to penetrate Big Meme's durability without ACoC but instead their hax.
acoc wasnt portrayed above hax ? are u now gonna say luffy's joyboy awakening is below kid's awakening ??
acoc as haki was portrayed above anything else , kid and law aint got the free pass just cause they got ' hax ' .
doffy himself said luffy has more potential than law cause luffy has conqueror's haki .
its been itself stated many times that haki counters law's hax .
haki surpasses all , thats what kaido said and the narrative is , u are just trying to twist it into ur agenda cause meh ' hax ' .
 
#46
acoc wasnt portrayed above hax ? are u now gonna say luffy's joyboy awakening is below kid's awakening ??
acoc as haki was portrayed above anything else , kid and law aint got the free pass just cause they got ' hax ' .
doffy himself said luffy has more potential than law cause luffy has conqueror's haki .
its been itself stated many times that haki counters law's hax .
haki surpasses all , thats what kaido said and the narrative is , u are just trying to twist it into ur agenda cause meh ' hax ' .
What are you babbling on about? ACoC isn't portrayed above DF abilities. DF abilities aren't necessary if you are a master of haki, like Shanks, Gold Roger and Mihawk, but that doesn't mean ACoC > DF hax. If ACoC > hax, then why did Luffy need his awakening to revive himself from death, and then defeat Kaido?
 
#47
What are you babbling on about? ACoC isn't portrayed above DF abilities. DF abilities aren't necessary if you are a master of haki, like Shanks, Gold Roger and Mihawk, but that doesn't mean ACoC > DF hax. If ACoC > hax, then why did Luffy need his awakening to revive himself from death, and then defeat Kaido?
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" haki surpasses all " - kaido
thats what the portrayal is , which includes devil fruits aswell which includes these ' hax ' .
luffy needed his awakening with acoc , like i said devil fruits arent useless but even in his awakening luffy was coating his attacks with acoc .
u are going against the obvious narrative here cause of agendas and bringing in ' meh hax ' which are a part of devil fruits .
acoc is portrayed above anything else used in onigashima .
 
#48
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" haki surpasses all " - kaido
thats what the portrayal is , which includes devil fruits aswell which includes these ' hax ' .
luffy needed his awakening with acoc , like i said devil fruits arent useless but even in his awakening luffy was coating his attacks with acoc .
u are going against the obvious narrative here cause of agendas and bringing in ' meh hax ' which are a part of devil fruits .
acoc is portrayed above anything else used in onigashima .
Nope. If it were, why were Law and Kid able to defeat Big Meme without ACoC?
 
#49
First of all we don't know when Kid fought that commander, Brulee only said "many of them have wandered into mama's domain these past two years". We know that Kid was already in the New World before Luffy properly began training with Rayleigh so it's possible that he fought the Sweet Commander few weeks/months after that which would be VERY impressive considering that Luffy needed his entire crew to defeat a Pacifista in Saboady.


now she might be listing them in a random order but she mentions Urouge last, and the last time we saw Urouge he was recovering from fighting Cracker and his fleet so Kid might have been the first WG rookie to enter her territory.

So it all depends on when exactly Kid fought the Sweet Commander
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Panel of Kid in the New World BEFORE the timeskip
 
#51
Ah, still blinded by your Zoro delusion? Who helped defeat Big Meme, versus who defeated a Yonko commander? Kid has better portrayal, has hax and could overwhelm Zoro with his DF.

Keep smoking that :pepecopium:
You are dumb as fuck
Big Mom can't even use advCoC
Zoro is 10 times faster than Big mom
Has 20 tomes superior attack power
Has far stronger CoC

What chance does Big Mom even stand against Zoro in 1v1 much less 1v2

Replace zoro with Law and bombs are not even needed
 
#53
woah kid has hax ??
he could overwhelm zoro's acoc with his devil fruit ?
even tho acoc is portrayed above anything in onigashima ?
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ACoC didn’t help big mom overcome damned punk
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Imo Zoro isn’t physically strong enough to overcome assign, given how much big mom struggled against it.

All Kid needs to do is assign a charge to the ground( doesn’t even involve touching zoro), and zoro won’t be able to use his swords properly.
 
#54
ACoC didn’t help big mom overcome damned punk
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Imo Zoro isn’t physically strong enough to overcome assign, given how much big mom struggled against it.

All Kid needs to do is assign a charge to the ground( doesn’t even involve touching zoro), and zoro won’t be able to use his swords properly.
while she was alrdy on the ground and kid had to launch that shit two times ?
dont even know if u can call that thing acoc .
+ this in no way counters my argument .
 
#58
Do believe they had to team up considering kids and his team proformance lol Kidd has zero speed feats along with haki his only thing is df an ID give him strength and endurance but damn he lacks alot likewise Killer and the rest of his crew is just trash , I the big mom fight law carry it and on the roof Kidd was most if the Time a spectator lol
 
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