Powers & Abilities Swordsman and haki user two different things.

[Thabeast]

What kinda mental gymnatics is this lmao

As long as Shanks is fighting with a sword, Mihawk is winning against him. Now it's up to you if you think Shanks is a stronger martial artist than a swordsman.

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

lol if zoro needed this ability to not only beat king but now this makes him a master swordsman and he is still not ready for mihawk, you mean to tell me u don't think its possible that the wss has that same ability,on top of that oda told us that zoro dream has kingly ambitions and mihwak is at the top of that same kingly ambition its not rocket science. Yea bounties come from strength and threat to the wg which mihawk got a massive bounty and he has no underlings lol.

I'm not saying Mihawk doesn't have CoC, but pointing out that assumptions about Mihawk's abilities also shouldn't be made.

Again, bounties aren't measures of strength, but what threat the WG believes a character poses. That's why Buggy has a massive bounty.

 

[wys]

zoro is the best haki user :

• he has all three types of haki
• he used armament and observation haki unconsciously without any training
• he can use fullbody armament haki
• he can use barrier haki
• he can unleash air slashes infused with haki
• the only one in the verse that can summon demons and create Illusions with his spirit
• he can coat his attacks with conqueror's haki
• and soon he will make his swords permanent black blades with haki
  
  

 

[[No Name]]

Dude can you understand what a fact is or not ?

Just because CoO and CoC is Shanks hype where is it stated that it has anything to do in terms of him being stronger than Mihawk ? Nowhere thats why i said this is your headcannon. I never doubt that he has monstrous haki.

On the contrary we have more than enough evidence that Mihawk is superior to him.

Nope, you don't have a single proof about Mihawk COO and CoC being above Shanks, so you can't Say Mihawk surpasses Shanks in all stats or overall.

 

[ConquistadoR]

COO thing was confirmed in Canon Red material.

What was confirmed was that Shanks' CoC is so good that it can affect opponent's CoO and not allow them to use FS.
The very need for Shanks to develop that ability implies that he ain't all that in CoO & Mihawk, who he was fighting at that time, is superior at CoO (and probably has FS but that's speculation).

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

zoro is the best haki user :

• he has all three types of haki
• he used armament and observation haki unconsciously without any training (against mr 1)
• he can use fullbody armament haki (against king's explosion)
• he can use barrier haki
• he can unleash air slashes infused with haki
• the only one in the verse that can summon demons and create Illusions with his spirit
• he can coat his attacks with conqueror's haki
• and soon he will make his swords permanent black blades with haki
  
  

Zoro doesn't even have FS, and you boldly claim he's the best haki user?

Luffy's haki > Zoro's haki.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Zoro doesn't even have FS, and you boldly claim he's the best haki user?

Luffy's haki > Zoro's haki.

Are you really that insecure to bring Luffy up as a response to @wys 's post? When that post was obviously meant to sarcastically comment on the OP distinguishing Haki users & Swordsman?

Relax bro.

 

[CbShadow]

They went full circle. We are back to hakiman BS.

Haki is a power that can be used with anything. If a swordsmaster uses it then it is part of there swordsmanship or sword skill.

At this time nobody knows Mihawk's full strength so to claim his haki is below Shanks is headcannon.

 

[wys]

Zoro doesn't even have FS, and you boldly claim he's the best haki user?

Luffy's haki > Zoro's haki.

can luffy do something like ashura ?

 

[gz89]

Nope, you don't have a single proof about Mihawk COO and CoC being above Shanks, so you can't Say Mihawk surpasses Shanks in all stats or overall.

Dude wake up and stop playing with words.

Shanks hype about CoC & CoO never stated to make him stronger than Mihawk. Its just hype Shanks thats all.

I never said that Mihawk has better CoO or CoC because we DONT KNOW. But what we know and we have evidence and FACTS, not headcannon theories, is that Mihawk > Shanks.

 

[Abysmal]

Mihawk's CoC or COO hasn't ben hyped yet, while Shanks yes, so for now Shanks has 2 points in favor.

How does he have 2 points in favor? that's literal headcanon if Oda didn't state it.

 

[[No Name]]

The point is:
Mihawk surpassing Shanks in swordsmaship/skill with the sword doesn't mean he's overall stronger than Red Hair since swordsmaship Is not even the thing most hyped or emphasized about Shanks, but his CoC, even though Shanks Is still ricognized as a formidable and top class level swordsman, his swordsmaship Is the #2 thing about him, while Haki being the #1 emphasized about him as seen several times, so Mihawk surpasses him in his 2nd best thing but not on the thing most emphasized and hyped about him.
That's simple and easy logic guys, please get It.
It was never stated that Mihawk surpasses Shanks in his forte, the thing most emphasized about It by other characters when he showed up on screen, by Jozu, Greenbull and his crew, his insane haki.

 

[zzShinichi]

Love how Shanks bros keep dodging this simple question: What exactly is Zoro again?

 

[gz89]

OP tried to act smart with headcannon theories and now he says to us about logic.

 

[Abysmal]

The point is:
Mihawk surpassing Shanks in swordsmaship/skill with the sword doesn't mean he's overall stronger than Red Hair since swordsmaship Is not even the thing most hyped or emphasized about Shanks, but his CoC, even though Shanks Is still ricognized as a formidable and top class level swordsman, his swordsmaship Is the #2 thing about him, while Haki being the #1 emphasized about him as seen several times, so Mihawk surpasses him in his 2nd best thing but not on the thing most emphasized and hyped about him.
That's simple and easy logic guys, please get It.

Mihawk not only surpasses in swordsmanship, but is actually the strongest to wield a swords
aren't you a Sanjitard? why don't you just drop this subject and start focusing on Sanji vs Jinbe before they ragdoll your ass

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I'm not saying Mihawk doesn't have CoC, but pointing out that assumptions about Mihawk's abilities also shouldn't be made.

Again, bounties aren't measures of strength, but what threat the WG believes a character poses. That's why Buggy has a massive bounty.

lol strength is a factor what do you mean is chapter 320 viz translation wrong or something ???Its strength+wg threat level

 

[HA001]

The point is:
Mihawk surpassing Shanks in swordsmaship/skill with the sword doesn't mean he's overall stronger than Red Hair since swordsmaship Is not even the thing most hyped or emphasized about Shanks, but his CoC, even though Shanks Is still ricognized as a formidable and top class level swordsman, his swordsmaship Is the #2 thing about him, while Haki being the #1 emphasized about him as seen several times, so Mihawk surpasses him in his 2nd best thing but not on the thing most emphasized and hyped about him.
That's simple and easy logic guys, please get It.
It was never stated that Mihawk surpasses Shanks in his forte, the thing most emphasized about It by other characters when he showed up on screen, by Jozu, Greenbull and his crew, his insane haki.

Skill with the sword is haki on your sword

Koshiro taught zoro swordsmanship
He taught him concepts of ryou which is haki


Mihawk taught him the way of the sword
He taught him haki

Santoryu is unique to zoro
Mihawk taught him 0 sword techniques


Zoros latest swordsmanship power up was acoc

You have no argument

 

[[No Name]]

Love how Shanks bros keep dodging this simple question: What exactly is Zoro again?

A swordsman with insane haki, but haki Is not the main thing about Zoro.
If you think about Zoro First things that comes to people mind are his swords, his Santoryuu.
When you think about Shanks what Is the First thing that comes to your mind? His swordsmaship? Nah, his Haki since Jozu emphasized It when he walked on Whitebeard ship, or again emphasized by his crew when he stopped Greenbull with his Haki and just haki.
The First thing that comes to your mind with Shanks Is haki.
The First thing that comes to your mind with Mihawk Is sword, swordsmaship.

 

[zzShinichi]

 

[CbShadow]

The point is:
Mihawk surpassing Shanks in swordsmaship/skill with the sword doesn't mean he's overall stronger than Red Hair since swordsmaship Is not even the thing most hyped or emphasized about Shanks, but his CoC, even though Shanks Is still ricognized as a formidable and top class level swordsman, his swordsmaship Is the #2 thing about him, while Haki being the #1 emphasized about him as seen several times, so Mihawk surpasses him in his 2nd best thing but not on the thing most emphasized and hyped about him.
That's simple and easy logic guys, please get It.
It was never stated that Mihawk surpasses Shanks in his forte, the thing most emphasized about It by other characters when he showed up on screen, by Jozu, Greenbull and his crew, his insane haki.

Quit the BS. Shanks is a swordsman/swordsmaster. Mihawk is stronger than him. Get over it. You are not Oda so stop trying to change his manga.