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And then a weaker version of Rayleigh made Teach shit his pants man. That is no joke man. You think Rayleigh is that much weaker than Fuji/Aramaki when not even old Sengoku made Teach this scared?
He had his crew with him and he thought he became the stronger man in world when he ate WB fruit just for later to be hit with reality.
We heard about SSG after Fishman Island, but it was most certainly a thing long before then. Unless you think Vegapunk spent the past two years making copies of Kuma but just came up with Lunarian mega babies in the past two weeks, lol
Jinbe nor public didn't know about SSG. Jinbe was only talking about Fuji and Aramaki replacing Akainu and Aokiji.

How would Jinbe know about SSG and say they got stronger without them even being released? Teach literally this chapter shat his pants when he saw new SSG meaning they only now became public knowledge.
 
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Shanks CoC was felt the whole island
It was targeted at GB who was in the forest...it hurt GB and had him shivering as hell
It's almost like there was a distance of entire island between them.

Proof it hurt GB? I see no such statement. And yeah, BB is shook and sweating a bunch (3 according to Eten), too.

And the difference is BB >> GB.

Rayleigh CoC did nothing this chapter lol
You van scratch his CoC from being Yonko level.
If his CoC was going to make BB scream like GB and collapse or something, or audibly say he's in pain, I think it'd be above Roger's even lol. BB isn't an Admiral.

And you keep ignoring the fact that Oda explicitly made Ray say that age is the only factor why he can't win.

Prime Ray > BB is practically a fact.

Odlbeard still had Yonko level COC
Rayleigh doesn't. Simple as that.
And which big guy did Oldbeard knock out and make feel pain with his CoC?
 
If Blackbeard brought Shiryu along to Amazon Lily, he probably would have acquired Hancock's DF successfully. Shiryu could take care of old Rayleigh while Blackbeard took care of Hancock.

Come to think of it, most of Blackbeard's career was carried by Shiryu.
He wouldn't survive against Magellan, he wouldn't recruit Impel Down prisoners, he wouldn't get Whitebeard's Gura Gura, he wouldn't become a Yonko like he is now, if Shiryu didn't save him.
Shirtu couldn't beat Moriah

You guys just over-estimate BBp
Devon and Vasco were never above Pero /WsW even
 

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Whitebeard, Sengoku, big mom, Roger and rocks doesn't matter now when it comes to Garp :risitameh:
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Garp portrayal as Roger rival and one of the two main forces that beat Rocks>Anything Ray did in his prime.
Whitebeard was said to be Roger's only equal, so no. And Rocks was said to be his greatest adversary.

Roger called Rayleigh his partner, and he's going he Dark King with concrete solo feats even in his old age.

Garp helping Roger defeat Rocks isn't that impressive when you consider that Coby helped Blackbeard defeat Wang Zhi (and was given ample credit by Blackbeard for his assistance). Are you claiming that Coby is on par with Blackbeard?

What solo accomplishments does Prime Garp have?
 
It's almost like there was a distance of entire island between them.

Proof it hurt GB? I see no such statement. And yeah, BB is shook and sweating a bunch (3 according to Eten), too.

And the difference is BB >> GB.


If his CoC was going to make BB scream like GB and collapse or something, or audibly say he's in pain, I think it'd be above Roger's even lol. BB isn't an Admiral.

And you keep ignoring the fact that Oda explicitly made Ray say that age is the only factor why he can't win.

Prime Ray > BB is practically a fact.


And which big guy did Oldbeard knock out and make feel pain with his CoC?
Split the sky with Shanks is probably what he’s referring to.
 
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