This community is lacking some common sense, they don't get that if whitebeard and his crew crew didn't get neg diffed during Marineford is because this was the one and last time the whitebeard crew would appear. The same can be said for VC, if we take vista for example, they will not say that he is a fraud who get folded by every yc and hold no relevance in the story obviously. Now for some character statement, the kaido statement hold obviously no value since it literally goes against the story, this manga is not about Luffy the hakiman that want to be the pirate king but Luffy the rubber boy. In the other hand, a statement that can't be discussed is the whitebeard one about shanks and Mihawk.