Powers & Abilities A lot of "Haki" can now "counter devil fruits" sigh....

[lee33]

No we did not know Sugar abilities could have been nullified by Hakii. We do not know that Hancock abilities could be nullified by BB haki which apparently can't because BB is weak as fuck. We did not know Pudding devil fruit can be nullified.

 

[Jailer]

We have already known that haki is used to combat df users since Rayleigh explained it, but people usually disregarded that when brought up because they want to be spoonfed.

 

[lee33]

We have already known that haki is used to combat df users since Rayleigh explained it, but people usually disregarded that when brought up because they want to be spoonfed.

So you knew that Sugar and Pudding's devil fruit can be countered by Haki? You knew BB can counter Hancock devil fruit powers four chapters ago when BB said he couldn't?

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

this manga makes no sense , i stopped arguing about things not making sense when the protagonist instantly revived from the dead and recharged 100% of his haki and stamina with 0 explanation , it just happened.
Let's be real this motherfucker leaves the ambiguity on his power system so he has the freedom to make shit up as he goes.
Absolutely fucking retarded

 

[ZenZu]

Disgusting work from Oda

 

[lee33]

this manga makes no sense , i stopped arguing about things not making sense when the protagonist instantly revived from the dead and recharged 100% of his haki and stamina with 0 explanation , it just happened.
Let's be real this motherfucker leaves the ambiguity on his power system so he has the freedom to make shit up as he goes.
Absolutely fucking retarded

Make shit as vague as possible so that Oda angels can defend it.

 

[ZenZu]

Anyone trying to defend this shit doesn't even understand the problem with it to begin with. Haki is heavily flawed and no it was never explained, it is purposefully left vague because Oda himself didn't even put a thought into it, only when it is convenient for him will he pull specific counters out of his ass.

 

[Best_Biscuits_5]

I bet you prefer the old days of logias being invincible.
Law struggled to do this and he's huffing by the end of the chapter, haki > all will only apply to the real haki monsters.

If anything, this proves admirals are fodders

(Zoro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Law btw)

 

[Peenix]

No we did not know Sugar abilities could have been nullified by Hakii. We do not know that Hancock abilities could be nullified by BB haki which apparently can't because BB is weak as fuck. We did not know Pudding devil fruit can be nullified.

What if all of those characters have strong Haki though?

 

[Lion of Olympus]

The fact that Haki got introduced 500 chapters ago and Oda is still introducing new abilities for it kinda says a lot to how poorly executed Haki is as a power system

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

This is a manga where the Guy that can coat himself in Magma will die if submerged in magma
Make it make sense

 

[Jailer]

So you knew that Sugar and Pudding's devil fruit can be countered by Haki? You knew BB can counter Hancock devil fruit powers four chapters ago when BB said he couldn't?

Yes.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

So you knew that Sugar and Pudding's devil fruit can be countered by Haki? You knew BB can counter Hancock devil fruit powers four chapters ago when BB said he couldn't?

People were saying this back in Dressrosa when people made the garbage argument that *Sugar can one shot Kaido. "

It's literally been discussed to death for over 10 years, ever since Rayleigh brought it up on Sabaody.

 

[Franosuke]

This is a manga where the Guy that can coat himself in Magma will die if submerged in magma
Make it make sense

 

[Nikuzi]

brainlets getting mad because they cant read is max lmao

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

This is a manga where the Guy that can coat himself in Magma will die if submerged in magma
Make it make sense

Maybe Oda has too much faith in his audience that they could put 2 and 2 together, and reach the conclusion that the guy who can coat himself in magma, didn't die by being submerged in magma?

 

[kurwa]

This opens up the worst kind of discussions and braindead takes.

Funny how only Law's teleportation and slicing in half doesn't work on people but somehow he can still silence them, use awakening, injection shot and all other crap

 

[Seth]

Why do you guys always leave it to me to create a thread on how terrible Oda's writing is? You guys need to pick up the slack for once gahh. Oda creating nonsense out his ass again. Looks like Law was powering up his super saiyan transformation.

No we did not know this from Punk Hazard. A vague line by Doffy about "cutting powers" doesn't mean you can counter all devil fruits especially when we came across many scenarios of devil fruit powers being used against people with greater haki.

Oda writes things that continue making us question preestablished events because he keeps putting himself in difficult scenarios so he has to create shit out his ass. "Law devil fruit is hax so let me nerf it and say "Big Mom and Kaido haki is too strong"".

• Why did Sugar need to be knocked out?
• Why did Sugar abilities work on all those people with greater haki?
• If you need top tier haki then why did Doffy say Vergo can block Law's devil fruit power when clearly Vergo doesn't have top tier haki?
• Why does Pudding power work against people with greater haki?
• Why did Blackbeard say Hancock devil fruit will work on him? Is Oda implying BB is weak as heck?
• So now every top tier haki user has BB Yami yami devil fruit where they can negate devil fruit powers? So why did BB spend so much time getting the Yami yami when he could have just developed his haki?
• Etc.

I like the concept but I hate the delivery.

I hate the delivery because Oda autists will tell that it's incredible writing when in reality Oda is just retconning whatever he fucked up in the past so it fits his ego now and can do whatever he pleases since he will just retcon a fuck up.

That's not how you recover your blasphemous writing.

 

[lee33]

People were saying this back in Dressrosa when people made the garbage argument that *Sugar can one shot Kaido. "

It's literally been discussed to death for over 10 years, ever since Rayleigh brought it up on Sabaody.

So you knew Sugar powers won't work? So why did Oda write the plot of Law and Luffy being the ones that needed rescuing from Sugar? And why did Sugar powers work on all those haki users?

So you knew Hancock abilties wouldn't work on BB? So why did BB literally say her powers will work on him?

So you knew Law awakening wouldn't work on Big Mom? So why did Law's awakening work on Big Mom?

So you knew Puddings abilities wouldn't work on Sanji? So why did it work on Sanji?

So you knew Tama abilities wouldn't work on the beast pirates that had haki? So why did it work on the beast pirates that had Haki?

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

Maybe Oda has too much faith in his audience that they could put 2 and 2 together, and reach the conclusion that the guy who can coat himself in magma, didn't die by being submerged in magma?

if Kaido is alive then he's just gonna go back to the surface and get Wano back.
Oda forced it