Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1071 Spoilers Discussion

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Luffy and zoro surpassed lucci and kaku in enies lobby
While growing stronger and stronger even before they started their 2 years of training

Lucci and kaku don't have a faster growth rate than the main characters they already got defeated by

Lucci was an urban legends amongst the CP9, strongest in history. Certified genius.
Kaku was quite young and was pretty strong as well.

These guys are similar to the Supernova. There is no reason why they shouldn't have a high growth rate as well, similar to supernova.
Especially given how they literally did nothing for 5+ years in W7 and possibly rusted, still was so powerful.

Don't get me wrong.
Logically, I get your point. Luffy/Zoro should have a higher growth rate. But we know Oda's powerscaling.
But.........we see that Law literally went from getting mid diff'd by Doflamingo (at worst), to giving Yonkos some trouble. With........no on screen growth at all !! He just got awakening, and all it does is improve attack power and versatility, not dura, CQC, speed etc.
Similar story applies to Kid...... and even characters like mid trio, nobody would argue that their Dresrossa versions deserve to even clash with Tobiroppo level alone be on their level.

Thing is if those characters knock him out and see him trying to get back up soon after, they are not gonna just sit around like Luffy and Sentomaru did. They're gonna keep spamming attacks on him to keep him down.
And stuff like Marco's shockwave ball ( that he hit Queen with in the neck ) would fuck Lucci up and probably make him spit blood a bit.

Maybe, but Lucci was implied to be got up a few seconds later.
This is same stuff as in EL arc. Lost consciousness momentarily, landed on ship and immediately got back up.

This kinda stuff happens all the time in OP. Heck, even Kaido was knocked down for some time by scabbards
So we can't say that a barrage would keep him down for good, because after a charged attack characters aren't likely to immediately follow up with a barrage. A barrage of attacks isn't something that comes out of nowhere.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Enma wasn't repeated mention everytime oden did something. Enma was mentioned repeatedly throughout zoro's fights
That's the difference

The problem isn't zoro getting stronger its how much focus oda put onto a sword. Especially if anything if he done the same with wado instead of a completely new sword it wouldn't be nearly as annoying

Wado has emotional significance to zoro and the readers it being the sword he started his journey on and made his promise to both kuina and luffy with. If wado ended up being more special than we originally thought it would feel a lot more natural

Oda giving zoro a whole new sword having its previous user and the weapon itself mentioned and highlighted repeatedly mid fights is annoying. It being more special than wado is annoying. It making zoro stronger than he was with ryumas black blade is eh. Zoro basing his new new forms on enma is lame
The amount oda chose to wank a sword is lame

Enma functions the same way in the hands of anyone whether it's mentioned or not. It's the intention that matters. Again, all these are nothing more than excuses you wanna use to take credit from Zoro. You're not paying attention if you people can't see through those lies.

 

[Azurion]

So garp going to die by BB/his crew.
Fuck you all man :(

 

[Wuuuke]

Am in Vegas rn!

 

[Midnight Delight]

So garp going to die by BB/his crew.
Fuck you all man :(

Fuck me

 

[Cozy Sofa]

I think the same way. Zoro fights cool and epic against enemies, but as a character he is extremely boring. It's probably better to some extent than to degrade to an annoying pervert, but I don't care, Zoro is boring

One of the greatest aspects of One Piece is the wealth of characters.

Some like the over the top Franky, Usopp, Giolla type of characters. Others prefer more no nonsense Zoro, Wiper, Whitebeard types. But I agree a bit more of a sparkle in the eye like Rayleigh or Shanks, fairly serious characters overall, would do Zoro good. For example I like Kid for this reason, he is serious but also has a certain sparkle.

But Zoro definitely has the most iconic moments in the entire series, perhaps only second to Luffy or Shanks so it's understandable why he is consistently #2 in rankings.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Maybe, but Lucci was implied to be got up a few seconds later.
This is same stuff as in EL arc. Lost consciousness momentarily, landed on ship and immediately got back up.

This kinda stuff happens all the time in OP. Heck, even Kaido was knocked down for some time by scabbards
So we can't say that a barrage would keep him down for good, because after a charged attack characters aren't likely to immediately follow up with a barrage. A barrage of attacks isn't something that comes out of nowhere.

Sanji follows up charged attacks and barrages. Luffy follows up charged attacks and barrages. Etc.
It's not that hard to do.

 

[Hako Sama]

I will say however, One Piece's quality isn't consistent throughout its run. Some arcs are significantly better than others. Recent One Piece honestly hasn't been the best. The entire VS Yonko saga was really mid.

And so I get why other manga have been surpassing OP's yearly sales as of recent. Demon Slayer as a whole>>WCI or wano imo.

Big Mom and Kaido are pretty disappointing as characters tbh.
And I remember that both Big Mom and Kaido were very much hyped in their introductions, but after all they turned to be very boring.

In the end, the old top tiers still the most interesting characters.
Even the new admirals are boring as fuck.

 

[centurion]

Hibari’s first appearance was in a gag One Piece high school manga (like Koby going to high school) where she is LITERALLY Akainu’s daughter lol.

@AkainuTheGrimReaper

If Oda put her in the canon story and is having her be the only other character that talks like Akainu it can only mean one thing

 

[Midhawk]

Big Mom and Kaido are pretty disappointing as characters tbh.
And I remember that both Big Mom and Kaido were very much hyped in their introductions, but after all they turned to be very boring.

I totally agree. The only character that hype before disclosure and that I liked is Vegapunk. I don't count Kizaru, because I started reading One Piece because of him

Post automatically merged: Dec 29, 2022

And you're as good as ever:cheers:

 

[Franosuke]

I actually laughed IRL.

 

[vikas]

Its just a misspelling of Ceasar you guys

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Hibari’s first appearance was in a gag One Piece high school manga (like Koby going to high school) where she is LITERALLY Akainu’s daughter lol.

@AkainuTheGrimReaper

If Oda put her in the canon story and is having her be the only other character that talks like Akainu it can only mean one thing

Akainu would probably be underwhelming in bed ngl.

 

[vikas]

Garp Chuujo showing why he is the actual king of seas

 

[uyuu]

So garp going to die by BB/his crew.
Fuck you all man :(

Nyeh, its useless. Garp is not only old now, he's very old. Defeating a very old version of a strongest fighter, doesnt get you any strongest medal

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Nyeh, its useless. Garp is not only old now, he's very old. Defeating a very old version of a strongest fighter, doesnt get you any strongest medal

Bruh Big Mom was old too and she was clapping ass

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Luffy, even after facing the government assassin, just wants to relax on the island...

Looks like Rob Lucci is just a joke to him.

 

[Thaidakar]

"First I cover your rubbery ass on the rooftop, until Mr Mythical God of the Sun finally fucking decides to wake up. Now the sunny almost got fucked under your management. Get a grip motherfucker!?!"

 

[uyuu]

Bruh Big Mom was old too and she was clapping ass

..yea but Law+Kidd defeating Old Big Mom didnt give me any enjoyment, it also didnt make me consider Law or Kidd individually to be getting a good achievement as Luffy's rivals...

 

[Thaidakar]

Only gigachads get to Sleep diff

Can this be acknowledged as FS CoO? :zorothink: