General & Others How disappointed would you be if the M3 didn’t fight Calamities?

How disappointed would you be?


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The lols and insults doesnt make your rambling more credible.

So you're telling me that Pica, PageOne, Daifuku, Killer, Oven etc arent mid tiers? Zoro and Sanji have beaten or overpowered mid tiers without using full strength....your counter argument was randomly saying they arent on Luffy's level.....as if the calamities are top tiers all of a sudden.

We literally saw Luffy get a huge boost during his fight with Katakuri and your responses are nothing deflections using insults.
Oh? Did I say it's a fact that Zoro and Sanji will fight high tiers? If I did do tell....the little debate was about you claiming Zoro and Sanji cant fight a high tier like it's a fact and talking down others for the great sin of disagreeing with you.
You saying Zoro and Sanji have beaten or overpowered mid tiers without using full strength.
I've countered by saying before Sanji couldn't even handle Doflamingo, he got caught and would of taken a huge hit, you think he has an answer to that string? Zoro couldn't cut the birdcage. If I being ever so hypocritical were to say, What if since he can't cut the birdcage what makes him be able to cut Doflamingo's string? Does Zoro have an attack he can casually use like Luffy's King Kong Gun?

Yes Luffy did get a huge boost, I've said it over and over and over again, Luffy fought tooth and nail to win that, Why should Zoro and Sanji, whose had nothing but a breeze walk be able to be comparable to that? Does that make any logial sense? All I've been getting from you guys is. "They did fight along the way." As if these small clashes mean getting stronger, strong enough to challenge these guys.

All I see from these statements is headcanoning and wishful thinking for their own power level fantasies, Maybe I am similar but at least I'm trying to stay on the logical side.
 
No, it's not a fact, it's a speculation. I don't believe at all theres gonna be the Sabo rescue arc with the SH assaulting the Marines.

And if you think DR Zoro needs Enma to take care of a YC3 im wondering how many power ups you think he's gonna get to jump above that.
It doesn't matter if there is or isn't a sabo rescue arc(despite all the possible evidence we have now pointing towards it). Do you or do you not believe that Luffy will fight the marines?

And yes, Zoro couldn't beat a fucking YC3 in dressrosa. Luffy would have got mid diffed by cracker if it was a 1v1 fight. Zoro's bounty is less than half of cracker's.
 
I came to the conclusion that Sanji and Zoro went through a very difficult training able to push them around veteran/ YC4 level just by upgrading what they were already able to do.

They have shown new techniques but nothing too complicated. Zoro obviously has still his Ashura techniques but imo they are "just" a stronger version of his pre TS Enies Lobby PU, perhaps he has a new finisher (as Sanji has HM) but nothing completely different.
Before the Enma and the RS they were already doing (almost) their best.

I believe this because Luffy was the only one who experienced a real utter defeat, he was the one who was too weak to save Ace. I think it's just logical that he would be the one obtaining the best results changing radically his fighting style through a new mode, G4.


So they need a true PU, their G4 equivalent :goyea:
 
They aren't on Luffy's lvl.
So... they are supposed to fight someone of their own level or weaker to never evolve mid-fight?
While Luffy in every arc always fights someone stronger than himself... evolving in-process and mid-fight?

EoS ends up with truly the Worst Undeserving Pirate King Crew!

I'd rather watch a story about Roger than wasting 1000+ chapters of a crew that doesn't evolve... just because some viewers can't accept power-ups and evolving mid-fight...

And yeah.. I'm the type of guy who would rather see what you all hate "asspull" than reading a boring manga that progresses as fast as a turtle... judge me by saying "oh you're not smart reader" LOL
 
So... they are supposed to fight someone of their own level or weaker to never evolve mid-fight?
While Luffy in every arc always fights someone stronger than himself... evolving in-process and mid-fight?

EoS ends up with truly the Worst Undeserving Pirate King Crew!

I'd rather watch a story about Roger than wasting 1000+ chapters of a crew that doesn't evolve... just because some viewers can't accept power-ups and evolving mid-fight...

And yeah.. I'm the type of guy who would rather see what you all hate "asspull" than reading a boring manga that progresses as fast as a turtle... judge me by saying "oh you're not smart reader" LOL
I expect shit to make sense, its Oda's job to not make it feel bullshit, if you want mediocre, well your going to get it.
I'm fine with them fighting tough opponents, I just don't think those are the YC. That's like Luffy challenging Big Mom before his fight with Cracker.

Your talking to a person whose been wanting these characters to change and evolve, try to do new things, have you ever listened to me before? Or did I finally register as a blip on your radar?
 
Oda is too focused on luffy and pulled the crew aside,we're getting close to the end of the manga and more than half of the SH don't have haki...

And now as he's not focused enough on the crew he has to give them PU's,BM should never have lost Zeus for example (she's a yonko for fuck's sake):seriously:

If Sanji is so ridiculous it's just that Oda wanted to use him as a hype tool, except that when you do it too many times you'll just think he's weak
In addition to offpanel, Oda wastes his time with repetitive, unfunny Gags and fan service:whitepress:

Zoro and sanji have to face calamities, it's been more than 10 years that oda has been putting this arc in place and he better be up to the task:lusalty:
 
To those who think Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe won’t face Calamities, I’d like to have more details about how you think it will go. Which opponents do you think they will fight and what level will they reach at the end of the next arcs (so not only in Wano but also in Elbaf, RA arc and Final War) ?
 
To those who think Zoro, Sanji and Jinbe won’t face Calamities, I’d like to have more details about how you think it will go. Which opponents do you think they will fight and what level will they reach at the end of the next arcs (so not only in Wano but also in Elbaf, RA arc and Final War) ?
Jinbei is above Zoro and Sanji, I can see him fighting a Calamity.

At best Z and S tag Team Jack or Queen, probably ends in a draw.
 
I expect shit to make sense, its Oda's job to not make it feel bullshit, if you want mediocre, well your going to get it.
I'm fine with them fighting tough opponents, I just don't think those are the YC. That's like Luffy challenging Big Mom before his fight with Cracker.

Your talking to a person whose been wanting these characters to change and evolve, try to do new things, have you ever listened to me before? Or did I finally register as a blip on your radar?
And why wouldn't it make sense if Zoro and Sanji beat a calamity? can you elaborate on that? explain to me how that will be a flawed logic?
 
And why wouldn't it make sense if Zoro and Sanji beat a calamity? can you elaborate on that? explain to me how that will be a flawed logic?
Looking at past arcs makes me believe they ain't shit. I've said it before, If Zoro had so much trouble and wasted time taking down Pica, and Sanji getting caught with parasite or so, he was going to take a big hit. And Sanji struggling with some of BM and his own brothers. Have no business fighting Calamities, and let me say this this is my opinion but and again my opinion I feel is rooted in making sense.
 
[Pre Wano/Post Wano]
Luffy [FM/Yonko]
Zoro [Vet. 1/FM]
Sanji [Vet. 2/YC2]
Chopper [Pre-Vet. 3/Vet. 3]
Robin [Pre-Vet. 3/Vet. 3]
Franky [Pre-Vet. 2/Vet. 2]
Brook [Pre-Vet. 1/Vet. 1]

Yonko > FM > YC2 > YC3 > Vet. 1 > Vet. 2 > Vet. 3 > Pre-Vet. 1 > Pre-Vet. 2 > Pre-Vet. 3

Doffy's Executives and Big Mom's normal Ministers are examples of the Pre-Veterans.
 
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