Which character is stronger ?


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Well, we know there are 12 supreme-grade blades, and we have little to no reason to assume there were only 11 before Yoru, so the burden of proof lies on your shoulders to prove there were only 11 of such kind before Yoru. We don't yet know if the grade of the blade changes if you make it black. We only know a sword's rank improves when it's made black, and an increase in rank could simply mean that it'd outrank the other blades just like how Yoru outranks the other blades within the same grade.

If Yoru wasn't one of the 12 before turning black, then it makes no sense for it to be better than the other supreme-grade blades because they should previously outrank it before it was turned black according to your proposition. It should logically hit the same rank as the other supreme-grade blades, but it outranks them while staying in the same grade.

Kitetsu isn't the one who created Enma. It was Kozaburo, and he's the same guy who made Wado. They're two different people. So far we only know Enma is better than Wado while being in the same grade just like Yoru. So we know for a fact that one sword can be of a better rank than others within the same grade.
I already proved that the number chan change .
Will you still call them the 12 supreme grade after zoro turned wado and enma in black blade ?
No because they have 1 rank lower so when turned black they will reach the supreme grade it is only logical .

Oh ok trying to change the meaning I see but int his case it is you that need to proof that it meen only increased the rank within the same grade because increasing in rank will make us believe it is going to a better grade.
Yes it make sense beause it is the only 1 that is black and we know black blade are basically invulnerable black blades is legit one of the last if not the last power up zoro will have . It do not outrank them it is just stronger we don't know by how much .
No we never called themr ank you just create that .
We know blades of the same grade are not all the same strenght sandai Kitetsu is probably the strongest of his grade.

It is logical to assume that at the end of the show ZOro iconic Wano ishimonji wil be part of the strongest blade and since only 1 grade stop it from being part of it Prove me turning it black dont change the grade ?
 
I must say the Zoro and Sanji fanbase replicate the same toxic rivalry of Zoro and Sanji.

Its kinda creepy tbh.
Sanji's and Zoro's actual rivalry isn't even toxic. They're literally brotherly best friends who constantly have each others back, and support the others while keeping each other challenged and on their toes in 'training' battles will light hearted competitive banter.

It's the fans that want them to actually kill each other and it's kind of sick, all those 'edits' where they have Luffy or Zoro rejecting Sanji or Luffy killing Zoro. Like do these people even know the personalities of these characters. They make a mockery of their loyalty, and emotional maturity they actually have.
 
Miss Buckingham (Bakkin) Stussy = Lurking Legend

WB and Stussy had a boy, a family, WBs biggest dream. The boy, Weevil, died.

WB and Stussy split. Stussy, a future Mads Scientist, managed to experiment on Weevil keeping his soul intact somehow but the soul is forever a young boy, 2 year old toddler perhaps, despite his body being prime Whitebeard ≈ 35. Vegapunk helped her achieve this and she is forever indebted.

WB created his new family of "sons" and made it important to avenge his sons murders so their souls could rest in peace. Weevils soul can't rest in peace.

WBs sorrow made him lose his hair, alopecia. Stussy sorrow made her age badly.
 
I must say the Zoro and Sanji fanbase replicate the same toxic rivalry of Zoro and Sanji.

Its kinda creepy tbh.
I must say the Luffy fanbase replicate the same idiocy of Luffy.

Its kinda retarded tbh.

If you want examples:
Luffy:
- Even if you die, don't die Jinbe
- Are you having fun Kaido hehe

His fanbase:
- Zoro can't touch post WCI Luffy with FS (reality: let Otama got kidnapped by fodder)
- Post Udon Luffy low diffs YCs (reality: needed G4 against Ulti)
 
Miss Buckingham (Bakkin) Stussy = Lurking Legend

WB and Stussy had a boy, a family, WBs biggest dream. The boy, Weevil, died.

WB and Stussy split. Stussy, a future Mads Scientist, managed to experiment on Weevil keeping his soul intact somehow but the soul is forever a young boy, 2 year old toddler perhaps, despite his body being prime Whitebeard ≈ 35. Vegapunk helped her achieve this and she is forever indebted.

WB created his new family of "sons" and made it important to avenge his sons murders so their souls could rest in peace. Weevils soul can't rest in peace.

WBs sorrow made him lose his hair, alopecia. Stussy sorrow made her age badly.
Good speculation tbh.
 
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