first,science needs to prove that a fetus is not a human child in the making.I already said this,if religion is wrong no harm was done.But if it is right,we are legalizing murder.
I think most scientist believes the fetus starts to become “human” by the third trimester, if that’s the case wouldn’t you agree to any abortion before that?

Also murder by definition is unlawful lol.
 
I think most scientist believes the fetus starts to become “human” by the third trimester, if that’s the case wouldn’t you agree to any abortion before that?

Also murder by definition is unlawful lol.
Exactly,we are dealing here with murder as option for pregnancy control.Abortion is not to be taken lightly.As for your question,its hard to answer that.We don't even know exactly how death happens.We don't know exactly how life starts either.If they somehow find irrefutable proof that life only starts at X point,then sure i would be cool with it.
 
pipe down no more religious talk here
Can you ban NAMELESS for homophobia then.
Why do you think its ok

Just coz its the norm?

Why do you think Abrahamic religions and some other religions prohibit it?
Because there's no problem with it?
Tell me one reason why you shouldn't have sex before marriage if you both love each other and have strong sexual desires for each other.
 
Exactly,we are dealing here with murder as option for pregnancy control.Abortion is not to be taken lightly.As for your question,its hard to answer that.We don't even know exactly how death happens.We don't know exactly how life starts either.If they somehow find irrefutable proof that life only starts at X point,then sure i would be cool with it.
I don’t think women take abortion lightly, for some of them it is actually a traumatic event

we are the ones who come up with the definitions of life and death. We use markers from biology to point to those sure, but at the end of the day it’s up to us to decide when does it start or end. Right now a fetus has very little markers of life up to the third trimester. By your standards that should be okay
 
Can you ban NAMELESS for homophobia then.

Because there's no problem with it?
Tell me one reason why you shouldn't have sex before marriage if you both love each other and have strong sexual desires for each other.
dude,touch grass.I barely even mentioned you here.I didn't insult anyone here over their sexual choices,if people got offended by my opinions.Then everyone here should be banned,but you opinion will offend someone at some point.
 
I don’t think women take abortion lightly, for some of them it is actually a traumatic event

we are the ones who come up with the definitions of life and death. We use markers from biology to point to those sure, but at the end of the day it’s up to us to decide when does it start or end. Right now a fetus has very little markers of life up to the third trimester. By your standards that should be okay
yes,i have read about this.Many suffer from ptsd after.Yeah,by the tech we have NOW.What if science finds out later they were wrong.You see the problem?Also,i'm don't agree with everything the catholic churche preaches about how society should run things.Condoms SHOULD be used because of stds and unwanted kids.Its stupid they are against those.
 
You said it's a mental disorder.
I said i think it is and so did scientists not so long ago.This is not an insult,this a scientific debate.Is homosexuality an mental disorder?This is a legit question people from the mental field wrestle with.They don't consider this a paraphilia anymore,because of politics and not because of scientific facts.But of course,this is controversial and some people will get upset about this.I will avoid such comments in the future because this back and forth,baiting and trolling is not worth it.
 

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First,religion says that it is a sin.God doesn't want you to go lusting and fucking random women if there is no love and will to build a family involved.My personal views despite religion:we are constantly bombarded with sensual stuff everywhere,we are becoming addicts to sex and sensuality.Intimacy is banalized and relationships are becoming superficial.As for segregation of state and religion,i think it is for the best that we do it.Not everyone will be a believer anyway so we can't have a political system based on principles that many people won't adhere,its not fair.I think the religious argument for a union of state and religion is that there is no better Law for humans than god's.I agree with that,but we can't have a political system like that for the reasons i already mentioned.
First rule of Jesus

Love others as you love yourself
 
I don’t think women take abortion lightly, for some of them it is actually a traumatic event

we are the ones who come up with the definitions of life and death. We use markers from biology to point to those sure, but at the end of the day it’s up to us to decide when does it start or end. Right now a fetus has very little markers of life up to the third trimester. By your standards that should be okay
Also,no we are not the ones that come up with those definitions.Nature and natural laws do.Beware of relativism.Now i'm the one asking questions,am i a fanatical christian to you?
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First rule of Jesus

Love others as you love yourself
God loves every sinner,but hates sin.My friend,i already told you that.
...and that is the second rule btw,the first is to love god above all else.
 
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