That's what I'm saying. It goes against the panel you posted. Chinjao spoke about surpassing those "Kings" to become what Roger became then later questioned whether Luffy can surpass the Yonkou and Admirals meaning for him those are the Kings that need to be surpassed and thus they need CoC too.
For Kuzan he may have some doubts but he's definitely completely sold on Shiryu being loyal to him. I think at this stage that ain't changing since Kuzan will obviously take over as the traitor plot for the crew.
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