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Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Bob74h said:
but it's mostly a genetics thing hence why we dont call tomboys
men just cause they act or like stereotypically male things

a tomboy
is still a girl despite liking guy stuff right??
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Yes

but that’s completely different from being a transman, where you physically alter your body in order to present as male.
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Like it makes no sense to call someone a woman if they have male levels of testosterone and present themselves as a man.

Just like it makes no sense to call someone a man if they have female levels of estrogen and present themselves as women.
 
Bob74h

Bob74h

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Monkey D Theories said:
but that’s completely different from being a transman, where you physically alter your body in order to present as male.
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I mean working out can count as altering your body
I dont really think these ideas you are saying like altering the body or not identifying with gender stereotypes are really much indication of anything

plenty of cisgender people do these things


Monkey D Theories said:
Like it makes no sense to call someone a woman if they have male levels of testosterone and present themselves as a man.
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I mean to you maybe
but to someone else

they might not think that


it's not like this shit is objectively true or false, it's just what people are deciding to do with their bodies and ig their identity
some people will accept it and others wont

and plus the logic you have is not sound anyway
as even cis males as were called these days can have low t counts and not one person would dispute that they are a man


and you can present yourself as anything
that aint really an argument


if you want my like personal take on like transgenderism, I think if they wanna take hormones and alter their bodies then they should have that right so long as they of legal age
I starkly oppose trans kids
 
Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

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#9,503
Monkey D Theories said:
That’s why transgender people need to transition.
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Only if they chose to!
Monkey D Theories said:
Yes

but that’s completely different from being a transman, where you physically alter your body in order to present as male.
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I think you misunderstood something.
A trans person is trans before they transition.
Hormonal transition is not what makes you trans.
Like it makes no sense to call someone a woman if they have male levels of testosterone and present themselves as a man.

Just like it makes no sense to call someone a man if they have female levels of estrogen and present themselves as women.
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That's called non passing
 
Bob74h

Bob74h

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Monkey D Theories said:
The very reason Americans don’t have free healthcare
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it's not really free
like in canada as a example

the point of purchase is just shifted from directly to just when you pay taxes
it's paid for by taxes instead of upfront

that's how it works in canada


Monkey D Theories said:
things like cancer bankrupt people is because the right uses transphobia(among other things) to get people to vote against their best interests
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how does transphobia relate to the best interests of most people
this is a isolated issue to a already isolated community with small enough numbers as it stands so how actually would anything regarding trans people remotely affect the normal average dude


and how would a dislike or hatred of trans people equate to poverty and cancer
like your not making much sense
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Bob74h said:
it's not really free
like in canada as a example

the point of purchase is just shifted from directly to just when you pay taxes
it's paid for by taxes instead of upfront

that's how it works in canada




how does transphobia relate to the best interests of most people
this is a isolated issue to a already isolated community with small enough numbers as it stands so how actually would anything regarding trans people remotely affect the normal average dude


and how would a dislike or hatred of trans people equate to poverty and cancer
like your not making much sense
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Trans issues have become a moral panic in America. The transphobic right wing media have characterized the lgbt movement as a cartoonishly evil group of pedophiles out to pervert the minds of innocent children.

Yes, the right has used trans hatred to convince people to vote against their best interests
 
Bob74h

Bob74h

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Monkey D Theories said:
Yes, the right has used trans hatred to convince people to vote against their best interests
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what does trans hatred have to do with the best interests of most people

Monkey D Theories said:
The transphobic right wing media have characterized the lgbt movement as a cartoonishly evil group of pedophiles out to pervert the minds of innocent children.
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some trans people are pedophiles
and because some of them are bad therefore all are

at least, I think that's the general right wing thinking


I dont think right wingers are ones to say every lgbt are evil
I heard them say they are mentallly ill due to the high suicide rate and the trans bit itself



Tbh, Most of them are likely as flawed as any other person
probably not outright evil but certainly not a paragon of virtue as some of the left might say


I think more or less that im not 100% on the side of saying they are 100% evil nor on a side that would say they are 100 percent good

I stand the middle of there, I suppose
 
Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

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Monkey D Theories said:
yeah, but transitioning is an integral part of being trans. Most Trans people either have transitioned or want to.

Whereas Masculine women/ feminine men have no such desire
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Nope
There have always been trans people in history.
Did they have access to industrially manufactured artificial hormones?

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Bob74h said:
Cancer had a cure
they just suppressed it due to the amount of funding people get to make one

as long as the market for a cure exists, a cure wont get made
cause if the cure is made that means no more funding
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There is a good way to reduce your risks of getting cancer :
Eat healthy, exercise, no pollution, no stress
If the medical world were really interested in curing cancer they would campaign against pollution, junkfood and persistent chemicals.
Just saying
 
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