General & Others What are your Unpopular Naruto Opinions?

#44
-A healthy Itachi is without a doubt stronger than Pre Rinnegan Obito.
-Early War (Rinnegan) Obito is weaker than DSM Kabuto.
-Sasori is intended to be the strongest Akatsuki member outside of the big 3 (Pain, Itachi, Obito) strictly by portrayal.




Doesn't contradict what I said though, Gai absolutely curbstomped him both times. I do feel bad for Kisame as that was his worst matchup, but that's on Kishi for making him a punching bag. Atleast he gave him his best possible matchup in Bee, before sending him off.
kisame at full power was never defeated.
kishimoto had to nerf kisame (by making him lose the samehada) because he realized he was practically invincible with it.
kisame fused with the samehada can regenerate as long as he has chakra, and in addition to having an absurd amount of chakra, he can absorb the opponent's chakra. the only way for gai to win would be if he opened the eighth gate, and since kishimoto was saving it for the fight with madara, he had to nerf kisame.
 

TheKnightOfTheSea

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#48
Itachi is the exact definition of a Mary Sue and is Kishimoto’s Shanks to Oda. If Kishimoto were to square him up against Juudara and Kaguya together he’d find a way to extreme-diff them.

Nicca was so wanked even the Naruto Gaiden (post Naruto manga) had a villain crew worshipping his ass and condemning Sasuke for killing him.

Itachi’s presence made the story quality drop. He was a literal fanboy self-insert.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#54
Itachi is the exact definition of a Mary Sue and is Kishimoto’s Shanks to Oda. If Kishimoto were to square him up against Juudara and Kaguya together he’d find a way to extreme-diff them.
Nope, I oppose this. Itach is a very qualified character with many W's and praise, but he is not a Mary Sue. Itachi self admits he's failed several times and has flaws, arrogance, a flexible moral system and short sightedness being among them.

Shanks shows up, gets offered free money, his dick sucked and gets to one shot 1 supernova.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#56
Nah his posts smell like fish. He's far too invested in the Kisame points out of everything I listed, and it's no coincidence he's rocking another fish as his set.
You might be shocked to hear this, but you can espouse the credentials of a character without stanning them. I freely admit Hashi's just that guy but I think he's less interesting than Mizuki.

both are shark-themed fearless chads
please don't perpetuate this stereotype. i don't wanna be associated with jinbe fans
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#57
Nah Itachi is definitely a Gary Stue, love him but the dude will always defy the rules of the verse to make sure he takes the W.

He's such a gary stue that no one was allowed to defeat him, his only losses are planned out by him 😂. He's honestly almost a meme in that regard, dude really undid death itself. The solo king for a reason.
 
#58
Nope, I oppose this. Itach is a very qualified character with many W's and praise, but he is not a Mary Sue. Itachi self admits he's failed several times and has flaws, arrogance, a flexible moral system and short sightedness being among them.

Shanks shows up, gets offered free money, his dick sucked and gets to one shot 1 supernova.
Bro. You just pointed out how Itachi is even further of a Mary Sue.

Instead of being told or called out on this, Itachi self-admits this. He solves his own problems instead of others solving it for him. That’s what a Mary Sue does too.

One-shots a Sannin with Genjutsu at age of 13. One-shots SAME Sannin again on his deathbed with Totsuka blade blitz.

Hokage wisdom at age 7.

True Hokage as admitted by Sasuke.

Worshipped by a bunch of Uchiha wannabes.

Shanks actually just got on his level by Buggy’s flashback dickriding young Shanks to be PK material. That is literally Itachi-levels of wank.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#59
Nah Itachi is definitely a Gary Stue, love him but the dude will always defy the rules of the verse to make sure he takes the W.

He's such a gary stue that no one was allowed to defeat him, his only losses are planned out by him 😂. He's honestly almost a meme in that regard, dude really undid death itself. The solo king for a reason.
Bro. You just pointed out how Itachi is even further of a Mary Sue.

Instead of being told or called out on this, Itachi self-admits this. He solves his own problems instead of others solving it for him. That’s what a Mary Sue does too.

One-shots a Sannin with Genjutsu at age of 13. One-shots SAME Sannin again on his deathbed with Totsuka blade blitz.

Hokage wisdom at age 7.

True Hokage as admitted by Sasuke.

Worshipped by a bunch of Uchiha wannabes.

Shanks actually just got on his level by Buggy’s flashback dickriding young Shanks to be PK material. That is literally Itachi-levels of wank.
Itachi realized he fucked up immediately when Naruto told him what happened to Sasuke and shit got out. It wasn;t like he had the chance to experience how wrong and bad he was and rationalize it. He got told the results.

Itachi's no more of a mary sue than Kakashi, given they have almost identical child prodigy records, Itachi only managed to out hax Orochimaru earlier in the series.

He gets humiliated by Kabuto, outsmarted by Obito, almost gets his brother killed and tried to mind control him. He has tangible flaws you can point at, Shanks doesn't.
 
#60
I think minato is verse in that regard
Minato is up there too, HOWEVER Minato was called a failure and humbled several times during the war. Humbled by Tobirama, humbled by Juubito both physically and verbally, failed to save Naruto by having Zetsu yeet Kurama from him, getting outdone by Might Guy in saving Kakashi.

Minato experienced plenty of failures and embarrassing character moments during the war. He’s not a Mary Sue imo.
 
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