Powers & Abilities "Zoro doesn't have Advanced Conqueror's Haki" = "Earth is Flat"

[Rootbeer]

You are seriously refuting every instance of ACoC that is not to your liking. Every time you move the goal post. Why is it so hard to accept that Zoro has ACoC?

Because AdCoC is not related to Swordsmanship at all?.. lol

 

[WizardKing]

He doesnt have bu

Flat Earthers behave the same way.
We show them Satellite photo of round earth, they still say Earth Is Flat

Let me do that

We give them scientific Explanation of Earth Not being flat
Like the other planets, the Earth is a sphere. It rotates around its own axis slowly but continuously, and completes this rotation about once every 24 hours

I can show you Narrative reasoning for Zoro having advCoC

Scientifically I am not sure how AdvCoA would come out as a result of "Kingly Ambitions"

I can show you Earth among other round planets

I can show you Zoro among other AdvCoC user

Now someone continues to create their own arbitrary nonexistent narrative
Pirate King Path
WSS Path
No Touch
Touch

Its same as a Flat Earther saying
God told me Earth is not flat
My Bible told me Earth is not Flat

I mean sure do that but I will treat you the same way.
It is not a tactic, just real state of the world.

You are behaving same way a fanatic who believes Earth is Flat behaves.
You are respectable enough in your "Earth is Flat Delusion" so I don't dislike you but you do qualify as someone who falls in I believe Earth is Flat category.

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Practically what a flat earther would say.
Try arguing with them.
They will say Earth not being flat is not reality because I can logically contest it..look my shoes don't curve



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tthe earth is round

 

[Rootbeer]

Outline for me then what makes an oni. What are their specific traits?

And its not my problem you arent up to date with information like oars and co being giants

And even with the asura attack the emphasis was on enma lmao.

You just add more bullshit on top of the previous bullshit you spouted

What makes a pure Oni or a half Oni?.. What makes a Fishman a Fishman or half Fishman?..

Ancient Giants=/= GIants

Enma wasn't the emphasis when Zoro used Ashura?..

 

[Zenos7]

What makes a pure Oni or a half Oni?.. What makes a Fishman a Fishman or half Fishman?..

Ancient Giants=/= GIants

Enma wasn't the emphasis when Zoro used Ashura?..

So no actual answer. Figures

 

[Rootbeer]

So no actual answer. Figures

Cause i know where you're going with this.. The fact is Oni race in One Piece exist and they were also called continent pullers before.. A very rich history about them to be told..

 

[Blazing Lion]

Because AdCoC is not related to Swordsmanship at all?.. lol

That is complete headcanon bro, swordsmanship requires all types of haki. The basic ones are CoO and CoA, the ones born/have CoC can amp their power with CoC too. Power is power, if you are fighting somebody to beat them you use everything you have. Haki actually means a lot more to swordsmen then other types of combatants since a single mistake can result in defeat. You need top tier CoO/ACoO/FS to perceive and dodge/attack accurately and you need top tier CoA/ACoA to strengthen your blade for the attack/block/clash. Most can achieve the above two but the ones who stand at the top are the ones who have ACoC since it is many times more powerful than just ACoA.

 

[Zenos7]

Cause i know where you're going with this.. The fact is Oni race in One Piece exist and they were also called continent pullers before.. A very rich history about them to be told..

Nope. But its whatever, you are making up shit anyway

 

[Rootbeer]

That is complete headcanon bro, swordsmanship requires all types of haki. The basic ones are CoO and CoA, the ones born/have CoC can amp their power with CoC too. Power is power, if you are fighting somebody to beat them you use everything you have. Haki actually means a lot more to swordsmen then other types of combatants since a single mistake can result in defeat. You need top tier CoO/ACoO/FS to perceive and dodge/attack accurately and you need top tier CoA/ACoA to strengthen your blade for the attack/block/clash. Most can achieve the above two but the ones who stand at the top are the ones who have ACoC since it is many times more powerful than just ACoA.

Swordsmanship requires making contact, and AdCoC is to not make contact.. It's pretty simple..

 

[Zenos7]

Swordsmanship requires making contact, and AdCoC is to not make contact.. It's pretty simple..

Why are there ranged sword attacks then?

 

[Blazing Lion]

Swordsmanship requires making contact, and AdCoC is to not make contact.. It's pretty simple..

ACoC is to not make contact is complete head canon.

 

[Rootbeer]

Why are there ranged sword attacks then?

Range Sword attacks are making contact.. So what's the problem.. It comes from their Blade..

ACoC is to not make contact is complete head canon.

It's not.. When first revealed and hinted at, it was mentioned..

 

[Blazing Lion]

Range Sword attacks are making contact.. So what's the problem.. It comes from their Blade..


It's not.. When first revealed and hinted at, it was mentioned..

You are picking the panels when two ACoC users are clashing. Why not show the attack which made Luffy realize that ACoC is a thing too?

 

[Rootbeer]

You are picking the panels when two ACoC users are clashing. Why not show the attack which made Luffy realize that ACoC is a thing too?

Because the panels i'm showing you contextually matter in the story for the new power reveal.. They are the foundation to said new power, because you should know by now that Oda will be inconsistent with his drawings..

 

[Malio]

how do you explain the episode being called''3 sword style of the supreme king''?
Shouldnt it be the ''sword path'' or some shit

"Anime is filler."

- Out of date Rootbeer (probably)

 

[Zenos7]

Range Sword attacks are making contact.. So what's the problem.. It comes from their Blade..

Lmfao.

Arrows also make contact kappa

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"Anime is filler."

- Out of date Rootbeer (probably)

Anime indeed is non-canon filler that is irrelevant

 

[Artem]

Range Sword attacks are making contact.. So what's the problem.. It comes from their Blade..


It's not.. When first revealed and hinted at, it was mentioned..

Lol. Kaido literally slammed Luffy with ragnarok by touching him. do not touch not =acoc. don't touch is one way to use acoc. Kaido, Zoro, Yamato touch their enemies directly. If you use acoc as a barrier or as an internal infusion, then you will not touch.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Because the panels i'm showing you contextually matter in the story for the new power reveal.. They are the foundation to said new power, because you should know by now that Oda will be inconsistent with his drawings..

No they don't, that is just a baseless assumption of yours to support your headcanon. The first time we get the clue that CoC can be used in an attack is when Kaido asks if Zoro can use CoC also. The name of the chapter is Color of The Supreme King. Then Luffy comments that he understood ACoC when he was hit by the last Kaido attack (Ragnarok). Kaido's ACoC attacks are touching his opponents. When ACoC is used in conjuction with Ryou/ACoA then it becomes the no touch thing. Weapon wielders don't usually require this as they want their weapon to hit the opponent.

Look at Bajran Gun and Luffy's comment about not needing to touch the Flaming Bagua. He is not thinking about ACoC at that time but rather his training with Hyogoro who taught him ACoA which is used by Samurai of Wano to coat their weapons in haki.

 

[Zenos7]

Cause i know where you're going with this.. The fact is Oni race in One Piece exist and they were also called continent pullers before.. A very rich history about them to be told..

D: Oda-sensei, hello!! Here's my question. Oars might be very big, but is he a giant?? If he IS a giant, does that mean he's from Elbaf? Explain the background, here! P.N. Nara Nara
O: You know how there's always one REALLY BIG guy in your class? Oars is a giant, but he's even huger than normal, among them. He's not a warrior of Elbaf. There are multiple islands around the world with giants living on them. He's just a big huge, evil giant from one of those islands. That's Oars!

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_49

 

[Artem]

No they don't, that is just a baseless assumption of yours to support your headcanon. The first time we get the clue that CoC can be used in an attack is when Kaido asks if Zoro can use CoC also. The name of the chapter is Color of The Supreme King. Then Luffy comments that he understood ACoC when he was hit by the last Kaido attack (Ragnarok). Kaido's ACoC attacks are touching his opponents. When ACoC is used in conjuction with Ryou/ACoA then it becomes the no touch thing. Weapon wielders don't usually require this as they want their weapon to hit the opponent.

Look at Bajran Gun and Luffy's comment about not needing to touch the Flaming Bagua. He is not thinking about ACoC at that time but rather his training with Hyogoro who taught him ACoA which is used by Samurai of Wano to coat their weapons in haki.

the only thing I would argue with is the fact that Luffy combines acoc and ryoo (haki haze). Luffy has never shown ryoo(smoke) haze in conjunction with acoc, unlike Zoro. Most likely, acoc can be used in the same way as a regular haki.

 

[Wh1p]

How did a thread that just stated the obvious end up generating 8 pages of discussion? Tf?